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My view on halitosis

My StoryI am new to this forum, although I am not new to the halitosis problem. I have suffered from this for more than a decade; I was humiliated at school, failed to make new friends/ keep old friends, and lost the love of my life. I am sure you are familiar with how desperate it feels, so I am not going to bore you with a long personal story. I am a physician/scientist-in-training myself (by no means I am implying that I have authority on this problem), but given my background I would like to share some thoughts with you.

These are my thoughts on several issues:

1) About claims that promise cures for halitosis:

I am skeptical about dentists who are in private practice and claim that they have come up with a solution. Most dental schools in the United States offer very few microbiology courses during their 4-year training, and those courses are not specific for halitosis. Few dentists have the knowledge to address halitosis adequately. I am very skeptical about claims that 100% of the patients are cured after using a certain treatment. As far as I know, there is no treatment (be it for halitosis or other ailments) in this world that will help every single patient. Some will respond to the treatment, but some won't. Moreover, most of the "success" stories are anecdotal. To be considered scientifically sound, research has to be done in an unbiased manner (preferably no financial implication, but most of the dentists who claim they can help actually make money off the product) and with a statistically significant sample size. Research needs to be published in a peer-reviewed journal and needs to be reproducible by other researchers who follow the method.

2) About Dr. Mel Rosenberg's product

I have never used that myself, though I would say that theoretically it seems the most promising. I am not sure how the 2-phase mouthwash's hydrophilic/hydrophobic properties work on microorganisms (I am not a microbiologist), but if it can successfully lift the microorganisms from the mucosal surface then it should reduce but not eliminate the odor. According to some researchers at the Forsyth Institute of Harvard University, we have more than 700 species of bacteria in our mouths, and the bacterial species in the mouths of people with halitosis are different from those in the mouths of people with fresh breath. There are several issues that should be addressed to understand the problem: 1) Why do the "bad" bacteria manage to colonize and wipe out (or decrease the level of) "good" bacteria? 2) How can we SELECTIVELY remove the "bad" bacteria but keep the "good" ones? At this point, we don't have a clue for these questions. Most of the mouthrinses available today, including Dr. Rosenberg's product, target towards the general bacterial population. Therefore, they may reduce the overall load of bacteria (decreasing BOTH good and bad bacteria) in our mouths but do not solve the fundamental problem (eliminating the bad ones only).

3) What can we do now?

I don't think the scientific community has given much attention to this problem at all. For those who are scientifically inclined and are at college age (or younger), I encourage you to try your hands in science. It's hard, I know, but it's also interesting. Plus, you have a problem that you care about passionately, so do something about it if nobody does it well enough. I am not a microbiologist (yet), but I will pursue that field once opportunities arise. For those who find it difficult to change career, try to organize yourselves (I suppose jimi comes up with this site for this specific purpose) and let the academic scientific community know it's a serious problem that affects a lot of people. In general, people in academia are more interested in solving challenging problems than making money (I say in general, not always). I live in the United States, so I can only talk about what I know here. Try to look up the research being done at dental schools/ microbiology departments of universities and contact those people who work on biofilms/ halitosis (don't send individual e-mails; that's annoying. Let's organize everything here and send ONE letter). Honestly, there are not that many people who work on this problem. Be courteous, no emotional ranting. People really don't listen to us when we are emotional.

4) Kudos to this site!

Thanks to jimi for coming up with this site. I have read through his/her post and I am sure he/she means well. I just want to ask everyone on this forum to stay cool and think scientifically. We have such a humiliating problem and we are emotional, I know, but do try to stay cool. Scientific research is the (only) way to go. Good luck everyone!

I have a link that may be of interest:

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/02.27/01-breath.html
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My view on halitosis
Authored by: elliott on Thursday, November 15 2007 @ 05:19 AM MST
Great post. Hang around. We need people like you here to keep everything "reality" based. Good luck!
My view on halitosis
Authored by: bb_us_hope on Monday, December 03 2007 @ 09:12 PM MST
Thanks for your post.

What do you think about this
http://www.badbreathhalitosis.com/article.php/ExclusiveInterviewWithYehudaFinkelstein

This guy seems to be a God-sent.

I'd like to know your opinion.

Thank you very much
My view on halitosis
Authored by: ab on Sunday, February 10 2008 @ 02:08 PM MST
I am currently on Bactrim for acne. Bactrim is a brand name for sulfamethoxazole/TMP, which is an antibiotic. Within 2 days, I've noticed a difference in the body language of those around me. The impression that I got from others was that I had severe bad breath (covering their nose, moving to a different seat, changing their breathing rate when around me, etc.). I have not had those reactions in the last couple of days. I even detect a difference. My symptoms, like many of you, are PND, coated tongue, and sinusitis. My digestive ailments include lactose intolerance, for which I refrained from dairy for a month, with no improvement in the odor. A CT scan of my sinuses showed a polyp in my maxillary sinus and a deviated septum. The septum is a delicate structure and is often damaged during childhood due to falling. My surgeries include a tonsillectomy/adenoidectomy, but no improvement in the odor. My past medications include Flonase, Mucinex, and Claritin. Mucinex worked well to dry up the mucous, but did not improve the odor. I've sought the advice of a dentist, periodontist, allergist, ENT, and my family physician, but received little to no help. It was not until I saw a Dermatologist for my skin that I was introduced to Bactrim, and have found successful results. Bactrim is a sulfur antibiotic and should be avoided in people with sulfur allergies, as it can cause a life threating allergic reaction. However, it is used for adult acne, urinary tract infections, upper respiratory tract infections, just to name a few. I recommend bringing it up to your physician and conducting your own research into the side effects, possibility of resistance, and long-term health effects.
My view on halitosis
Authored by: sigh on Saturday, September 13 2008 @ 09:18 PM MDT
Are the results still good even after being of the Bactrim or were they good only as long as you used it?
MUse my knowledge to cure Halitosis
Authored by: curobreath on Tuesday, March 10 2009 @ 08:08 PM MDT
Use my knowledge to cure Halitosis (actually more like to control Halitosis)

I am a generally healthy person, do not smoke or drink alcohol or soda, no excessive sugar consumption, and we eat lots of fruits and veggies. Only one nasty thing had bothered me for a very long time: Halitosis!
Seems like no matter what I would do it’s just does not go away. I have went to the doctors, I have had my tonsils removed and had done at the same time. I have gone back to the dentists and physicians complaining about my issue; finally I was told to calm down and deal with the fact that my halitosis can not be cured.
I had no choice left but to take this matter into my own hands. I have used all my knowledge from the dentist’s and physician’s visits, read lots of human biology books, brushed up on my chemistry knowledge, contact professors in Asia and Europe regarding the topic. I have created my own medicated oral rinse and toothpaste using organic oils and stabilized chlorine solution that I have been using for years. My oral rinse formula not only eliminates bad breath for hours it is also contains the mix of essential oils which can help fight the volatile sulfur compounds (odor causing bacteria) and provide overall better oral health.
Unfortunately there are many people like my self who are hopelessly suffering from chronic halitosis. The bottom line TotalBreathCure.com has a maximum strength medicated oral rinse (mouthwash) and great tasting oral gel which made with organic ingredients to help you end your bad breath or just to substitute your commercial oral products which often just mask the issues but don’t really illuminate them
Bad Breath & Halitosis Cures
Authored by: mitc on Wednesday, May 05 2010 @ 10:08 PM MDT
I had Bad Breath for years but didn’t even know it. I noticed people near me would rub there noses sneeze cough and try to go else where. It occurred to me that I had bad breath. So I went to my dentist to have my teeth cleaned but when I asked about my bad breath he said floss brush and rinse twice a day. I said I’ve been doing that since I was 15! But my dentist had run out of time so I was back on the street. Then I was paying top dollar for all those will “stop Bad Breath” all you have to do is buy all these products for the rest of your life! And they don’t even work ffs. One of my few remaining friends mentioned an eBook his girlfriend used called BadHalitosisBreath.com and said it worked for his girlfriend so why not me? So I downloaded a copy and found out the book had been around for years! I could have fixed my Bad Breath years ago. The eBook took a completely different approach to the cure of Bad Breath I followed it word for word. Within a week I could tell it was working and my friend said it was much better. Now a year later I have a good job a great girlfriend and Party every weekend!

This is a BB researcher site www.oraltech.com.au

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