Hi i am new to this website, first of all my name is Brad and i am happy to find out that i am not the only one with this "disease" i call halitosis a disease because it ruins sufferers lives, slaughters confidence ,stamps all over self esteem.
Anyway i have suffered from chronic halitosis for around 10 years, my mouth is always dry, i have a very sour bad taste right at the back of my tongue,thick mucus, scared to open my mouth just in case someone smells it.
I have tried every toothpaste Crest,Aquafresh, Colgate,Retardex,Blanx,Rembrandt,Arm & Hammer and hundreds more.......mouthwash Dentyl PH, Biotene, Listerine, Corsodyl,Oraldene, Colgate, Retardex and hundreds more....
I have also tried tee tree oil,hydrogen peroxide, i have a electric toothbrush and brush for at least 5 minutes every morning and night, i clean my tongue with ora-brush every morning and night also...but my mouth is still dry as sand and the horrible taste remains (bad breath).
The only cause i have noticed it may be is my filling fell out some years ago and has left a black hole, it doesn't hurt and has never gave me toothache or another maybe cause is that i eat alot of cheese.
But i drink 2 litres of water everyday.
Any ideas of help would be grateful as i have literally tried everything.

Chronic severe halitosis can only be eliminated by Bentonite clay detox. All other things are bull.
1 tablespoon bentonite clay powder mixed with 200 grams of fresh apple juice before breakfast and same before bed. Diet should be high carb. 3-6 months and your evil halitosis is gone.
I myself suffered from chronic halitosis since I was 14, during 30 years. I've tried everything in the world, but nothing helped.
Bentonite detox is the only cure.
Trust me, try it, and mother nature will cure you.
You will be smell free.
God bless you and good luck.

Hello to whomever takes the time to read my story, today was a good day for me. I have suffered from cronic bad breath(@#$% breath) for about 12 years now and I work in a very loud factory so when you have to talk to someone you have to talk loud so they can hear you, this made it very uncomfortable for people to talk to me and to work beside me. Not to mention my social life is pretty much dead because of it....I tried all the mouth washes and all the gizmos and whatever but nothing worked. Then I read an article about really looking at what your eating, so I did and I found out I was consuming an enormous amount of dairy products. I started looking into what dairy products can do to some peoples breath and it wasn't good, so I thought I would cut that out of my diet completely. I mean I was having cream in my coffee, cheese on my breakfast sandwich, cheese on my sandwich at lunch, I would get home from work and have cheese and crackers etc. Not to mention all the milk I was drinking. It was damn hard but i gave it up on friday and I kept up my regular mouth cleanings floss etc. Over the weekend I noticed that the layer of filth was gone from my tongue and I barely had to scrape it at all. Then today I went to work and talked to a few people and I got positive response back, they're heads weren't trying to dodge my breath and I had a conversation with somebody for the first time in a long time. Just sayin it's like they say you are what you eat I guess.

Thank you forums

I have had chronic and highly offensive bb for over 40 years and it has been one of the saddest and most humiliating experiences blighting many happy moments in my life. By chance I think I have found something that helps. My theory is that (in my case and maybe for others) my bb is caused by a lack of stomach acid which leads to poor digestion and assimilation of food. Stress and self consciousness aggravate the problem - hence the awful self fulfilling prophecy that we who worry about our breath, end up making it even worse.

My solution which seems to be working and others may have tried already is simply one teaspoon of cider vinegar in warm water 3 times a day before meals. My coated dry tongue and vile taste has disappeared and instead I have a pink, wet, healthy tongue - even in the morning - though I still have some bb on waking up. It seems miraculous and for those who think their bb is linked to poor digestion and 'hypochloridia' or lack of stomach acid - give it a try. I do hope this can be of help to others - I empathise so strongly with everything that people write on this website and it is comforting to know that we're not all alone suffering without anyone to speak to about it all.

Good luck - and try it. You must use organic apple cider vinegar - just try a little bit first - it tastes not unpleasant! Also try 7/11 breathing for relaxation - breathe in to the count of 7 and out to the count of 11 for a few minutes. This relaxes the stomach and helps alleviate the bb caused by anxiety and stress.

Bad breath plagues just about everyone at one time or another. People often jeered at it, but bad breath can be a devastating social disability. More than a few people have been denied employment, failed in business and relegated to low social status because of it. For effective course of treatment of bad breath,the cause must be accurately diagnose There are basically four sources of bad
breath:
1. The mouth: This includes the teeth, the gums, and the top surface (dorsum) of the tongue, especially the very back of the tongue.
The term for odors from the mouth is Fetor Oris (not halitosis)___Fetor means "a strong offensive smell" and is a generic term. Oris means "from the mouth". Fetor oris is a strong 0ffensive smell originating specifically from the mouth
o The structures in the mouth that can harbor bad breath are:
• The Teeth
• The Gum
• The Tongue
Most bad breath originates from the mouth.

80% of all bad breath originates from bacterial overgrowth within, or upon structures in the mouth. If you are young, healthy, and do not suffer chronic sinusitis, tonsillitis or laryngitis, chances are good that this section is the most relevant to your problem.
When someone has bad breath caused by structures in the mouth, the chemicals you actually smell are sulfur compounds created by anaerobic bacteria. Anaerobic bacteria grow in the absence of oxygen and they most easily colonize areas where there is some mechanism to limit exposure to oxygen. As a class, the chemicals these anaerobes produce are called Volatile Sulfur Compounds (VSC's), and they include such beauties as hydrogen sulfide (rotten egg smell), methyl mercaptan (smells like rotten cabbage, and is the chemical added to natural gas to give it a recognizable odor) and dimethyl sulfide (smells like decayed vegetables). There are over 400 types of bacteria found in the average mouth. Several dozen of these can cause bad breath when allowed to flourish. They metabolize proteins such as dead tissue cells, blood and mucous. Proteins contain sulfur compounds which supply them with energy, and these sulfur compounds are converted to VSC's as a waste product.
A healthy mouth does not smell bad because the conditions in all parts of it encourage a balance of bacteria that does not cause odors. We call a healthy balance of bacteria a normal flora, or a "normal floral pattern". There is a very wide range of floral patterns which are healthy. Everyone has a slightly different floral pattern. But when conditions in any area of the mouth change due to disease or other factors such as dehydration or the presence of fermentable substances such as blood, dead cells and shreds of food, the balance of bacterial species shifts, allowing the overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria at the expense of the rest of the normal floral organisms. Thus odors begin to emanate from that area due to the productuon of VSC's.
CAUSES OF BAD BREATH THAT ORIGINATES FROM THE MOUTH

. Xerostomia--This is the technical term for dry mouth. Dry mouth dehydrates and concentrates the layers of salivary protein and mucous that coat the structures of the mouth. This concentration of mucous, saliva and food detritus makes for overgrowth of all sorts of different bacteria in different parts of the mouth. In some areas of a dry mouth, anaerobic bacteria overgrow and produce serious amounts of volatile sulfur compounds. Other areas favor the overgrowth of aerobes which produce their own volatile waste products which can smell and taste nearly as bad as the vsc's produced anaerobes. The most common type of bad breath caused by dry mouth is morning breath, which is a result of breathing through the mouth while sleeping. Some people tend to develop chronic dry mouth due to conditions such as Sorgren's syndrome. Elderly people are also prone to dry mouth due to the ageing process.

.Drugs-Certain drugs tend to cause dry mouth and thus are a prime cause of chronic bad breath. These include both prescription and non prescription drugs as well as both legal and illegal drugs.
.Decay teeth(caries)-Decay inside a tooth provides an anaerobic environment for sulphur metabolizing bacteria.
.The gums--In a disease state provides a safe harbor for bacteria.
.The Tongue-Hair-like structures on the upper surface of the tongue called papillae when overgrown harbors food particles that serve as substrate for bacteria.

2. The upper respiratory tract: This includes the nasal cavities, sinuses, throat,tonsils and the larynx(voice box).The term for bad breath originating from the upper respiratory tract is ozostomia and is the second largest sources of bad breath
3. The lungs: Bad breath originating from the lungs is either a temporary phenomenon caused by consuming certain foods or drugs, or it is a chronic problem caused by disease processes.
.Stomatodysodia is the term for bad breath caused by outright disease processes in the lungs, such as various infections, emphysema, bronchitis or lung cancer.
.Halitosis is the term for bad breath that results from physiologic processes elsewhere in the body and carried to the lungs by the bloodstream, or to the mouth by chronic vomiting.
4. The stomach: Technically, this type of bad breath is a subcategory of halitosis, but one that does not originate from the lungs. Bad breath originating from the stomach is caused by disease processes which
produce vomiting.
TREATMENT OF BAD BREATH
This involves accurate diagnosis of the underlying cause and its management

Everybody seems to say 'find the cause of your bad breath and then follow through with treatment' (e.g GERD or root canals) but ive never come across a solution in curing a bacterial imbalance which mainly congragates on the tonuge, Only cover ups seem to be the option! . Scraping still does not get rid of the smell completly and the bacteria just builds up again. I feel like theres no hope and id rather not be here if i know i have to deal with this my whole life.

Anyone like to enlighten me on some cures for a persistant bacterial imbalance, im desperate here, its so depressing as you all know ..

I have suffered from halitosis for 2 years now and its lead me to feeling depressed and strongly considering suicide! The source of my bad breath comes from my tongue, i have a fixed furred coating with lots of nucks and cranies at the rear end of my tongue, which absorbs everyhting like a sponge and gives off a foul odor, i have tried everything from gargaling salt water scrpaing profusely with a tongue scraper, even using a razor to try and get rid of the furred texture (not a good i idea i know), ive tried most 'clinically proven products' - retardeX, therabreath etc and these only mask the odor for roughly 20minutes, chewing gum makes my breath smel worse!!.. i really don't know what to do, it has crippled my confidence and ruining my life, im 18 and its halting everything in my life , starting university, a part time job, socialising i want to plan a holiday this summer with friends but i dont think i could cope, has ANYONE got any advice , alls i get from docs and dentists is brush, floss use listerine (listerine has alcohol in which drys the mouth out) .. i feel i need to smooth out the surface of my tongue then the bad breath MAY subside , any thoughts im crying out for help here :(

I have suffered for over 40 years. The thing is, I have a huge family and noone else has this problem. They try to get close to me. I cant let them. I am a very attractive woman and I am single because I cannot have a normal relationship with a man. If anyone gets too close, I get away quickly. How can I say whats really wrong?? The worst part was when my 6 year old nephew told me that my breath smells like a fart. I have tried everything. Nothing works for me. Its crazy because I am a woman--with feelings and wants and needs. I didn't think that my life would be over in elementary school when the kids started teasing me.
I saw some new things on this site and I will try some of them. Some I have already tried. Thank you for letting me know that there are other people going through something similar

I have been suffering pretty consistently from bad breath for many years, which has caused me much pain, thwarted dreams and ambitions and has crippled my self-esteem in social and intimate contexts, and has presented many a challenge in my professional life. I also battle with depression as a result, and get, generally, pretty bored and tired of the lonely lifestyle this handicap causes. Anyway, I have learned a few things along the way, which I would like to share with everyone here.

1. Go to a doctor first to rule out any sort of disease.

2. In my case, allopathic doctors have never been able to help me, so I have gone the alternative route. I have systemic yeast which I treat with a combination of macrobiotic and anti-yeast diet. I cannot speak for others, but in my case I need to alkalize my system. I drink an umeboshi plum and tamari drink which really helps me. Umeboshi plums are salty and very alkalizing. It really helps the breath, and helps my stomach.

"Natural Healing Through Macrobiotics" by Michio Kushi has a lot of helpful home remedies, and has several combinations of the ume-tamari drink. I put about 1 tsp. of umeboshi paste into a cup of boiling water, then add about 1 tsp. or less of tamari. You can also substitute the water with green tea.
Or if you prefer, you can just eat an umeboshi plum. I buy the paste because it is less expensive.

Otherwise I would get a book on basic macrobiotics.

Animal products and oils really make me suffer, so mostly I eat grains, veggies, legumes, some meat and fish. I'd say I am loosely macrobiotic. Macrobiotics does use a lot of soy, which I don't tolerate very well due to the fermentation, so I eat tamari, but not miso or tempeh. Again, every person is different, so each person will have to modify the diet to his or her needs.

I really try to avoid sugar, dairy, fast-foods, fried foods, really processed foods, nightshades, alcohol and generally avoid coffee. Stimulants and stress really provoke the problem, and in my case, anything that acidifies, ie, all of the above. I cannot eat vinegar because it is fermented, but I can have Umeboshi vinegar, which is pickled (made with salt). And it is delicious! Alcohol is devastating to my system and produces terrible breath which gets progresively worse with time.

Eating a high-fiber, low-fat diet such as macrobiotics really reduces the post-nasal drip, which used to be another contributing cause of odor.

Now I clean my nose out every morning with a neti-pot. You put in about 1 tsp. of salt (or until it doesn't sting your nose) and warm water, and flush each side.

2. If you have low stomach acid, the problem could be solved pretty easily by taking HCl (hydrochloric acid). Again, I would go to a doctor and get a stomach acid test.

There is a very good book called "Why Stomach Acid is Good for You" by Jonathan Wright and Lane Lenard. I take HCl pills, and at first they seemed to solve the problem, but as with most pills I have tried, they don't provide the full answer.

3. Acupuncture really helps me. Like someone else who posted here I also have spleen dampness. I would find a good acupunturist and try it out.

4. Teeth brushing: I use diluted hydrogen peroxide (50% water, 50% peroxide) and baking soda. Then I gargle with it for about 1 min. and rinse with water. This is the cheapest and most effective tooth-cleaner I have found.
Normal toothpastes don't work for me, but I have just discovered that Ecodent tooth powder is pretty effective, perhaps due to the salt content. The whitening ones don't work, but the normal mint and anise flavors are very helpful.

5. Drink a lot of water!

6. Get enough sleep!

7. Get some exercise!

8. And last but not least: There is a wonderful herb. for depression, which really helps me. It's called "Scletium Tortuosum" which you can order from africanbotanicals.com. I think Big Tree Health makes it. I use the 50 mg. Scletium, and take one in the morning with breakfast. Scletium has the wonderful quality of helping balance you when you are down, and then when you are balanced again you will naturally just feel you don't need it any more. Scletium also helps with addiction, and it helped me when I quit smoking.

9. Oh, I almost forgot, probiotics are important. Either eat fermented foods like sauerkraut or miso, or take a supplement. Because of my yeast problem, I can't eat fermentation, so I take a supplement.

Okay, I think that's all for now. I hope all this is helpful!

Hello All,

I hope someone can help with my BB. Here is my story.

The first time I knew I had bad breath was when I was in 2nd grade. I lost a girlfriend because she told me I had bad breath. I used to wrestle around with my brother and he told one day that my breath smelled worse than my butt. I started using mints, gum ect... but always the same result. I became self conscious of it and tried my best not to talk directly in front of people.
I tried my best through high school and college. I have friends and a wife but I don’t talk that much when I am around them. My wife asked me one morning if I had farted, all I did was say good morning. I knew what the problem was.

After I became older I tried various products from the internet without any luck. I have heard people say that my breath would knock a buzzard off a sh_t wagon. My co-workers stand in my doorway instead of coming in my office, when I’m on the phone they leave. After I say anything inside a car there is silence because they can’t believe if I farted or its coming out of mouth.

I could go on and on. This is not just in my head, I can rub my finger across my toung - dry it in the air for a moment and then smell it. Yep same thing smells like fecal. Let me spare you the details of what I have tried all my life. But you must know a few things in order to help me if you can.

1. Dentist says my teeth and gums are healthy.
2. Went to a breath clinic, white coating on my toung, scrape every morning and night – still have poo breath.
3. Had tonsils removed at the age of 25.
4. Had sinuses surgery at the age of 18 for a blockage. I have large sinuous cavities and some post nasal drip.
5. Had an endoscopy done when I was 30, doctor did not find anything but a hiatal hernia, took meds for about a year, still have poo breath.

I could write a book on what I have tried. I came across this site and read about Candida. I have to question whether or not my doctor knew what he was looking for when I had the endoscopy done because I still have poo breath.

I am now 47 and my poo breath seems to be getting worse if that is possible. I use a mask in the late fall when I cut the grass and I can smell my own breath, its nasty poo breath. I know all about it, the body will not allow you to smell your own breath. Well mine is so bad that I notice it.

Do you know what it feels like to read a book to your children and watch them pull the sheets up to their nose?

I have never found a Doctor that I can talk with on the subject, that understands what to look for or how to find the problem. Can’t someone take samples of saliva or tissues and tell me the origin?

That’s all for now. You can ask me questions if you want; I’m open for just about anything at this point in my life.

Regards, Clint