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Bacterial collection on top of Soft Palate

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Bacterial collection on top of Soft Palate

Postby Larc400 » Sat May 10, 2008 7:32 am

So, check this image:

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When my bb is bad, I definitely feel a collection of something on top of the soft palate. Maybe that's a worse growing ground for bacteria than the tongue (I have strong nasal stench).

Maybe, when swallowing, some food is trapped upwards, if the soft palate does not close properly.

The problem is, I can't reach it. And irrigation doesn't get rid of it.

From Wiki:

Soft Palate

Function:

It is movable, consisting of muscle fibers sheathed in mucous membrane, and is responsible for closing off the nasal passages during the act of swallowing.

The soft palate's motion during breathing is responsible for the sound of snoring. Touching the soft palate evokes a strong gag reflex in most people.

The soft palate retracts and elevates during speech to separate the oral cavity (mouth) from the nasal cavity in order to produce the oral speech sounds. If this separation is incomplete, air escapes through the nose, causing the speech to be perceived as hypernasal.
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Postby pervy19 » Sat May 10, 2008 2:53 pm

Picture isn't working

I have a terrible nasal stench also, and I believe it might be starting off @ the soft palate. I always feel I have GOBS of mucus stuck there, and something that i just can't get out.

Interesting :p

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Postby 04paynem » Sat May 10, 2008 7:59 pm

pervy19 wrote:Picture isn't working

I have a terrible nasal stench also, and I believe it might be starting off @ the soft palate. I always feel I have GOBS of mucus stuck there, and something that i just can't get out.

Interesting :p


picture works.

rick click image, click view image, reload page that appears.

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Postby Larc400 » Sat May 10, 2008 9:19 pm

Here's the link to the article on swallowing...

http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/rattler/46/upali4.htm

So normally the soft palate should close. For some, it doesn't.

The only way I can think of cleaning that area is by doing the 'condom trick' like this emo chick is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIt63LwjiQ8

I've never tried it though. Anyone?

...normal salt water irrigation doesn't really help that much back there, sadly :oops:

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Postby pervy19 » Sat May 10, 2008 9:51 pm

TBH, Larc, I would go right ahead and do that if it successfully cleaned the area.

Condom through nose is no big deal if it can help treat BB :D


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Postby pervy19 » Sat May 10, 2008 9:53 pm

I do stage 2 nasal irrigation but it still doesn't clear it much. I'm 1000000000000 % positive that my soft palate is the reason for my nose stench. (well, could be an infection)

Larc, let's think of ways to clean that fugger up

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Postby GoodLuck! » Sun May 11, 2008 9:13 pm

really interesting. I`ve always felt that area is the primary source.

At certain times i could actually feel it.

I confronted my ENT with this tho, and he checked the area, and found nothing. This was indeed interesting because at the time he also rated my breath smelling 0 from 0-10. What would be interesting is if it was possible to get a "smell test" when i actually do feel like there is something there.

The feeling i get is like that area "weights a little more", or like there is a soft pressure coming from above.

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Postby OneDay111 » Mon May 12, 2008 10:11 pm

YESS,

I always have to make that KKHHHHH noise.

Is that the place? #-o
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Postby sharon » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:13 am

I often use a method to clean my throat:

gaggle with warm salt water, tilt head back as much as possible, use a finger to push the back of tongue to enlarge the throat cavity, let the water filling there, try to gaggle there somehow, and suddenly tilt head forward and spit, then the water with mucus ,which I don't know are from nose or throat, runs out of nose, and next if I blow nose with napkins, lots of mucus comes out incredibly, sometimes I find little white or yellow gunks
suspened in it.

And I invented another method to kill the stinky tonsil tenporarily:

tie a cotton string around a cotton ball, soaked in H2O2￾Cpush and stuck the cotton ball as deep as possible around the tonsil area, be careful to hold the string, don' t swallow it by accident, hold for a few seconds, dragg the ball out.

anybody want to have a try?

Larc400 wrote:Here's the link to the article on swallowing...

http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/rattler/46/upali4.htm

So normally the soft palate should close. For some, it doesn't.

The only way I can think of cleaning that area is by doing the 'condom trick' like this emo chick is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIt63LwjiQ8

I've never tried it though. Anyone?

...normal salt water irrigation doesn't really help that much back there, sadly :oops:

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Postby elliott » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:46 am

I think this is KEY.

It seems that this is the source of my BB, that stuff that lies deep in the throat. Whenever I swallow, I can smell the gas from my throat thru my nose.

This also seems to be an area that doctors can't see to make any judgement on. When I mention this to doctors, they go silent.

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Postby Larc400 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:33 pm

ENTs should be able to see this area when they examine with their little camera, but they do it so quickly. Basically what they see is probably just a collection of mucus, and advice us to flush it with saline rinse. I would like a better way to clean up there, but the gag reflex makes it difficult :oops:

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Postby nobody » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:48 am

I have the same exact problem. It has gotten worse after having tonsillectomy, but I have always had it to some extent. Now that I no longer have my tonsils supporting the soft palate, it hangs considerably lower than before, making more room for stuff to collect on top of it.

By the way, does anybody know if this problem could have been caused or exacerbated by having been NG tube-fed?

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Postby sharon » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:43 am

oh really? So having tonsils out is not something that "you have nothing to lose", and you breath gets worse? I'm very eager to know, cuz I put all my hope on this sergery. look forward to your reply, thanks!

nobody wrote:I have the same exact problem. It has gotten worse after having tonsillectomy, but I have always had it to some extent. Now that I no longer have my tonsils supporting the soft palate, it hangs considerably lower than before, making more room for stuff to collect on top of it.

By the way, does anybody know if this problem could have been caused or exacerbated by having been NG tube-fed?

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Postby nobody » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:09 pm

sharon wrote:oh really? So having tonsils out is not something that "you have nothing to lose", and you breath gets worse? I'm very eager to know, cuz I put all my hope on this sergery. look forward to your reply, thanks!


I don't think there is anything to worry about, as I have never heard of this happening to anyone else after a tonsillectomy. Although this problem has gotten worse for me, it still doesn't come anywhere close to negating the positive effects that tonsillectomy had on my breath.

I honestly don't think you have anything to lose by getting your tonsils out – if nothing else, at least it makes one less place for bacteria to hide.

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Re: Bacterial collection on top of Soft Palate

Postby jamesmcavoy » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:40 am

For type 1 bb , if any harsh and skin corroding chemical is used (like zncl2) then your soft palate gets colonised with tongue bb bacteria and impossible to cure .



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