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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:59 pm
by halitosisux
Ruben what I meant is, does your idea apply to a person who hasnt got any palatine tonsils? When someone's had their tonsils out this area you are referring to becomes very different.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:31 pm
by Ruben
halitosisux wrote:Ruben what I meant is, does your idea apply to a person who hasnt got any palatine tonsils? When someone's had their tonsils out this area you are referring to becomes very different.
I see what you mean now, i would have to see the area, when you tonsils are removed i suspect your arch is either still there or perhaps that groove up, it might not be as readily visible if the skin of the arch was taken out along with your tonsils, but that groove should still be there.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:39 pm
by stressedout
I didnt have tonsils removed, but the area behind the cryps isnt that deep.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:05 pm
by brightonguy
This is really interesting Ruben. I've had a bit of a play arond with that area of my mouth and unfortunately can't detect much in the way of odour (less odour there compared to my palatine tonsils and I don't even think the latter are a cause of my BB).... nothing there in the way of gunk or debris either, at least I don't think so. I feel a bit sore and violated now, bit reluctant to keep playing around unless I create a problem there that wasn't there in the first place. If you've found the source of your BB and cured it (which it sounds like you may well have done) then brilliant and thanks for sharing it. It'd be really interesting to see if anyone else has similar success in that area of the mouth.

Oh, and I just love the term "glossopalatine arch".... sexy.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:14 pm
by Ruben
stressedout wrote:I didnt have tonsils removed, but the area behind the cryps isnt that deep.
It doesn't look deep but it is, but a circular spin brush there. and see for example this video of a tonsil being removed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTFUpoqhbHo

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:14 pm
by Jimi Stein
i tried with braun electric brush same you did, feel fresher and a lot of gunk white came out, my tonsils were removed long time ago, but still there is a problem here.

I think that more areas in the throat and in area between nose and throat is infected and that the problem is deeply rooted.

Like with stones, always new and new are poping out.

I have also blood in my spit so I am in same shit. But i think my train has left too long time ago and there is no cure. I just have to live with it.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:22 pm
by Ruben
brightonguy wrote:This is really interesting Ruben. I've had a bit of a play arond with that area of my mouth and unfortunately can't detect much in the way of odour (less odour there compared to my palatine tonsils and I don't even think the latter are a cause of my BB).... nothing there in the way of gunk or debris either, at least I don't think so. I feel a bit sore and violated now, bit reluctant to keep playing around unless I create a problem there that wasn't there in the first place. If you've found the source of your BB and cured it (which it sounds like you may well have done) then brilliant and thanks for sharing it. It'd be really interesting to see if anyone else has similar success in that area of the mouth.

Oh, and I just love the term "glossopalatine arch".... sexy.
Believe it or not, before i went through this procedure, i used the dentek scaler to touch that area, and i saw nothing, but for some reason i felt that something must be there. Until i acually used that spin brush with toothpaste on it, then you will see all the crap that falls from it. Get a brush to it with C.Peroxide or just ordinary toothpaste.

EDIT: the scaler i used is the thicker one in this set http://www.dentek.com/store/index.php?d ... oduct_id=4

but again i didn't find anything with that pic, nothing came of it, till i actually brushed that area.

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:36 pm
by Ruben
Stressed out, back to this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTFUpoqhbHo

In this video are two arches one is the glossopalatine and the other is the pharyngopalatine.

perhaps when you take out your tonsils, the arch collapses to some extent, but that makes things worst because it give the fungi better cover, from oxygen. You might have to lift it up manually.

As far as taking a pic, you might have to sign up for an account on http://tinypic.com/

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:22 am
by hope4now
How about using a water pik back there rather than the toothbrush? That might cause less of a gag reflex.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:47 am
by mindyb
Reuben-
Thanks for this post. Thorough documentation and great responses to those of us who have questions. Keep it up =D>
I will be trying this method after I examine my mouth tomorrow. I may be posting a pic for your help to point out this arch. I did have all of my tonsils out.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:26 am
by Ruben
hope4now wrote:How about using a water pik back there rather than the toothbrush? That might cause less of a gag reflex.
I thought of this a well. and i think a water pik would work but the problem is you have to find a way to deliver lots of oxygen to the place. I supposed you could put a lot of hydrogen peroxide in the water container., and blast it off. try it out and see.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:27 am
by Ruben
Jimi wrote:i tried with braun electric brush same you did, feel fresher and a lot of gunk white came out, my tonsils were removed long time ago, but still there is a problem here.

I think that more areas in the throat and in area between nose and throat is infected and that the problem is deeply rooted.

Like with stones, always new and new are poping out.

I have also blood in my spit so I am in same shit. But i think my train has left too long time ago and there is no cure. I just have to live with it.
If initially only blood came out with no mucus or gunk, i would have stopped on the first day, but a lot of gunk came out. In addition that first day i work up without bad breath, That was the crazyiest thing ever.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:28 am
by Ruben
mindyb wrote:Reuben-
Thanks for this post. Thorough documentation and great responses to those of us who have questions. Keep it up =D>
I will be trying this method after I examine my mouth tomorrow. I may be posting a pic for your help to point out this arch. I did have all of my tonsils out.
Thanks, looking foward to it.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:30 am
by fartmouth
Ruben,

did your BB ever come out of your nose when breathing ONLY through your nose?

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:57 pm
by Ruben
fartmouth wrote:Ruben,

did your BB ever come out of your nose when breathing ONLY through your nose?
I never noticed it through my nose, although i did have post nasal drip, i know that most of the time if my mouth was closed i NOT got reactions. sometime i would get odd smells, but i don't know if it was coming from my nose at all.

Edited it, i meant to say i would not get reactions if my mouth was closed.