halitosisux wrote:No adversity from me on this subject, if you care to check through my posts. And some of my most recent posts I've mentioned how I've tried a low choline diet, and noticed my mouth feeling consistently fresher, but gave up on discussion because of the adversity you've also noticed on this subject.
I strongly believe a "mechanism" of TMAU is likely to be behind most cases of chronic halitosis, and if not trimethylamine, some other foul smelling chemical that builds up in the body in a similar way- for whatever the reason might be, whether it's genetics, gut flora imbalance, hormonal, diet, etc.
I once put the simple question to Dr. Murat Aydinmur, of whether he's aware of any research done to actually test for the levels of trimethylamine (or any other bad smelling digestion by-products) in saliva/mucus in chronic halitosis sufferers, and he's aware of none. Yet we know for a fact that with TMAU, trimethylamine is secreted in saliva/mucus (saliva/mucus is filtered blood). Another interesting established fact is that 1 in 100 of the general population have secondary TMAU. Even Dr. Murat has recently mentioned:-
"Yes every menstruration (and even ovulation) can cause Type 4 halitosis.
According to somes, every cycle is a temporary tma disorder."
Our body literally contains a sewage factory in our abdomen. We all absorb certain bad smelling chemicals from our gut produced by bacteria during the process of digestion and from what we eat, into our bloodstream. We have mechanisms that then filter our blood of these chemicals. But in some people that filtration is either faulty or dysfunctional - or there's an abnormal buildup of these chemicals that overwhelms the filtration process. That's why TMAU isn't simply a case of "you have it or you don't" but more a case of "you might have it to a degree" and it manifests itself in different forms of symptom and severity.
Yes sorry, I wasn't trying to imply the adversity came from you, infact you were one of the few people that was willing to consider tmau, I was more saying that I see why you picked your words carefully in that post as there are people here that hate the idea of tmau.
And yes I agree with your post in general. Sure it won't be the case that everybody has tmau, but if you've exhausted all other options (tonsils, adenoids, sinus corrections etc etc), and your breath is still extremely potent.....its a very reasonable avenue to pursue, Im just really sad that at the moment its not that well documented, and many gps still have no idea what it is, and also there are definitely other similar metabolic problems but we have no means to test for them yet.
But hopefully in the next 10-20 years that will start to change, recently a lady had a video released on-line where she discusses her tmau, and that video has over 1 million views, I think stuff like that will really help awareness when it comes to all types of odours.