I'm sure all long term sufferers of this disorder will have had this happen on an ongoing basis from time to time. Someone is ignorant enough/bold enough/bad enough or just think they have the right to embarrass us.
Can think of the two most recent instances - one in which someone made inferrences to my BB, the other not so veiled although they side stepped it by saying it was someone else around us who had BB.
By nature, i'm not one for quick and witty answers but it would be good to have a strategy to shut them up. Just to be able to draw even before walking off.
Do any of you have any good 'one liners' in response to these BB inferences??
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[quote="baguio"]I'm sure all long term sufferers of this disorder will have had this happen on an ongoing basis from time to time. Someone is ignorant enough/bold enough/bad enough or just think they have the right to embarrass us.
/quote]
Baguio,
The battle isn't against them, it's against ourselves and our state of deprivity. No one can ever understand the state of our anguish, no one can ever shed the amount of tears we've exhausted. I cried in uttered disparity last night b/c of this nightmare. Let it go. Let it go my friend.
We just need to stick to focusing on finding/fighting for a cure for ourselves. As I cried last night this is what I wrote to Mr. Immel, the president of Lavoris.
John
______________________________________________________________________
Dear Mr. Immel,
Thank you, Sir. That's all we can ask for, something to helps ease our
chronic breath problem.
I would like to briefly share with you how it feels like to have to
live with this problem, my story is common with all the members as they
also need a safe place to express their shame and anguish, our support
site is the only place we can be real with others who understand.
________________________________________________________________________
_______________
I felt so humiliated last week Friday when I played poker at a nearby
sportspub. I try to get out to be amoungs others to avoid isolating
myself. The guy sat next to me probably was offended by my breath odor
that he pulled his t-shirt over his nose. I was paranoid, can't imagine
why a grown man would do something like that in a social setting other
than it must had been my breath odor. I was humiliated, came home and
broke down in tears. About two weeks ago, my best friend set me up with
his girlfreind's friend on a blind date. We played cards at her home.
The girlfriend got up to take a bathroom break when she came back I
smelled Listerine on her breath which suggested that she smelled bad
breath odor and was turn off by me that she had to cleansed herself. I
just wanted to leave, bury my head and hide in shame. These kinds of
negative encounters has truamatized me all my life and left me in such
a devastated view of who I am as a person. We all share the same views
about
ourselves.
Again, Mr. Immel, my story is so commonly shared by other members,
young men and women, middle-age, and the elderly alike. We are forced
to live in such a horrible existence.
Because I feel their pain and aguish I am compelled to fight for
something to ease our sufferings. Lavoris in 1987-88 cured me. I had
two wonderful years of living as a normal human being without the daily
embarrassment and shame caused by chronic halitosis.
I play poker just to keep from going crazy from lonliness, but even in
my attempts to escape I can't get away from this problem. I keep my
mouth closed tightly as I can because..., well you know. I wish I could
laugh out loud with everyone when they joke and are having a good time
enjoying the comradary.
Just recently I begin to feel dispair of life. I never felt this way
before but in my moments of disparity I would rather move on with this
existence by a quick, painless natural death than endure a lifetime of
deprivity. Of course I don't want to leave this earth before my mother
b/c its painful for a parent to live beyond her child. I am sorry to
reveal these things to you, but I guess the members all struggle with
fatalistic mind set here and there as we are so helpless. I am just
very weary, Mr. Immel because there isn't any cure or remedy to help
us. But I am determined to find a cure to help my fellow sufferers.
/quote]
Baguio,
The battle isn't against them, it's against ourselves and our state of deprivity. No one can ever understand the state of our anguish, no one can ever shed the amount of tears we've exhausted. I cried in uttered disparity last night b/c of this nightmare. Let it go. Let it go my friend.
We just need to stick to focusing on finding/fighting for a cure for ourselves. As I cried last night this is what I wrote to Mr. Immel, the president of Lavoris.
John
______________________________________________________________________
Dear Mr. Immel,
Thank you, Sir. That's all we can ask for, something to helps ease our
chronic breath problem.
I would like to briefly share with you how it feels like to have to
live with this problem, my story is common with all the members as they
also need a safe place to express their shame and anguish, our support
site is the only place we can be real with others who understand.
________________________________________________________________________
_______________
I felt so humiliated last week Friday when I played poker at a nearby
sportspub. I try to get out to be amoungs others to avoid isolating
myself. The guy sat next to me probably was offended by my breath odor
that he pulled his t-shirt over his nose. I was paranoid, can't imagine
why a grown man would do something like that in a social setting other
than it must had been my breath odor. I was humiliated, came home and
broke down in tears. About two weeks ago, my best friend set me up with
his girlfreind's friend on a blind date. We played cards at her home.
The girlfriend got up to take a bathroom break when she came back I
smelled Listerine on her breath which suggested that she smelled bad
breath odor and was turn off by me that she had to cleansed herself. I
just wanted to leave, bury my head and hide in shame. These kinds of
negative encounters has truamatized me all my life and left me in such
a devastated view of who I am as a person. We all share the same views
about
ourselves.
Again, Mr. Immel, my story is so commonly shared by other members,
young men and women, middle-age, and the elderly alike. We are forced
to live in such a horrible existence.
Because I feel their pain and aguish I am compelled to fight for
something to ease our sufferings. Lavoris in 1987-88 cured me. I had
two wonderful years of living as a normal human being without the daily
embarrassment and shame caused by chronic halitosis.
I play poker just to keep from going crazy from lonliness, but even in
my attempts to escape I can't get away from this problem. I keep my
mouth closed tightly as I can because..., well you know. I wish I could
laugh out loud with everyone when they joke and are having a good time
enjoying the comradary.
Just recently I begin to feel dispair of life. I never felt this way
before but in my moments of disparity I would rather move on with this
existence by a quick, painless natural death than endure a lifetime of
deprivity. Of course I don't want to leave this earth before my mother
b/c its painful for a parent to live beyond her child. I am sorry to
reveal these things to you, but I guess the members all struggle with
fatalistic mind set here and there as we are so helpless. I am just
very weary, Mr. Immel because there isn't any cure or remedy to help
us. But I am determined to find a cure to help my fellow sufferers.
I understand exactly where your coming from John. However, alongside searching for a resolution to this disorder, we have to live our own lives to the full - and narrow the degree to which BB impacts on our quality of life.
I am (and will remain) hopeful of a solution. But many of us have had this complaint for a long time. We have to get on with living in the meantime. Thats why I think my query is relevant. Thats why I think the RawTV/channel 4 documentary is important.
Neither will help us directly. However, they have the potential for changing minds and attitudes, for challenging beliefs.
You say that the battle isnt with them? But lets think this through. Are you saying for example that my work colleague was right to try his best to embarrass me in front of others? He clearly does - but hes wrong.
Bad Breath is a disorder and needs recognition as such. In the minds of the general public, it is not perceived to be a disorder - rather the hallmark of someone of low (hygiene) standards.
I know that bad breath is repulsive ( I have only ever come across one individual who had what I would term a recurring problem and it was very much repulsive). However, that does not give someone the right to belittle me or attempt to psychologically tread on me. By all means, resist talking to me where possible, keep your distance but other than that, TOLERATE.
Proper recognition of this problem for what it is (a disorder) will lead to;
1.An increased likelihood of specialists carrying out research into it and in tandem, an increased likelihood of state organisations financing such reasearch.
2. A more tolerant (and less ignorant) public view towards it.
3. Better initial consultations for people with Bad Breath - lets face it, most people here have had little help from GP's as regards trying to find the answer. Theres no joined up thinking as regards referrals to specialists in my opinion.
4. Greater willingness for insurance companies to covernew procedures as they come on track (or if not willingness, then there will be more of an onus on them to do so).
For many of us, there have been no quick fixes and we have already dug in for the long haul. There may very well be a soluiton (and as i keep saying, i am ever hopeful) but we must also accept that we may not find one for years to come.
I have a good quality of life - better than millions of other folks on this planet. However, I know that would turn to a great life if this afflication dissapeared.
Pain is temporary, glory is lasting, triumph is ahead.
Missed last Sunday but if any of you are around, see you at the online chat.
I am (and will remain) hopeful of a solution. But many of us have had this complaint for a long time. We have to get on with living in the meantime. Thats why I think my query is relevant. Thats why I think the RawTV/channel 4 documentary is important.
Neither will help us directly. However, they have the potential for changing minds and attitudes, for challenging beliefs.
You say that the battle isnt with them? But lets think this through. Are you saying for example that my work colleague was right to try his best to embarrass me in front of others? He clearly does - but hes wrong.
Bad Breath is a disorder and needs recognition as such. In the minds of the general public, it is not perceived to be a disorder - rather the hallmark of someone of low (hygiene) standards.
I know that bad breath is repulsive ( I have only ever come across one individual who had what I would term a recurring problem and it was very much repulsive). However, that does not give someone the right to belittle me or attempt to psychologically tread on me. By all means, resist talking to me where possible, keep your distance but other than that, TOLERATE.
Proper recognition of this problem for what it is (a disorder) will lead to;
1.An increased likelihood of specialists carrying out research into it and in tandem, an increased likelihood of state organisations financing such reasearch.
2. A more tolerant (and less ignorant) public view towards it.
3. Better initial consultations for people with Bad Breath - lets face it, most people here have had little help from GP's as regards trying to find the answer. Theres no joined up thinking as regards referrals to specialists in my opinion.
4. Greater willingness for insurance companies to covernew procedures as they come on track (or if not willingness, then there will be more of an onus on them to do so).
For many of us, there have been no quick fixes and we have already dug in for the long haul. There may very well be a soluiton (and as i keep saying, i am ever hopeful) but we must also accept that we may not find one for years to come.
I have a good quality of life - better than millions of other folks on this planet. However, I know that would turn to a great life if this afflication dissapeared.
Pain is temporary, glory is lasting, triumph is ahead.
Missed last Sunday but if any of you are around, see you at the online chat.
Baguio,
I didn't mean to minimized your anger and anguish when those people trashed your importance and self worth, my friend, I understand. I lived it all my life.
Until the medical community legitimately reconizes our disorder as a genuine medical ailment, the world will continued to laugh and make fun of us. But we will endure and will find a cure.
You have much to contribute and I know once a cure is found who you, and all of us for that matter, were created to be, passion, strenght, and courage will be fully realized. That day will come. Hope is all we have. Be we must be ever proactive in fighting for a cure.
I have good news to report from Mr. Immel. Please take a moment out of your time to write to him in appreciation and to express to him that you are 100% in support of a product that works.
John
I didn't mean to minimized your anger and anguish when those people trashed your importance and self worth, my friend, I understand. I lived it all my life.
Until the medical community legitimately reconizes our disorder as a genuine medical ailment, the world will continued to laugh and make fun of us. But we will endure and will find a cure.
You have much to contribute and I know once a cure is found who you, and all of us for that matter, were created to be, passion, strenght, and courage will be fully realized. That day will come. Hope is all we have. Be we must be ever proactive in fighting for a cure.
I have good news to report from Mr. Immel. Please take a moment out of your time to write to him in appreciation and to express to him that you are 100% in support of a product that works.
John
