halitosis

[thanatos]

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[Larc400]

Amen to that. Finally

[Cured]

Two thumbs up in total agreement with you here, thanatos...

In my case a close relative of mine who I confided in long-term about my problem once told me to just "forget it" and to "give up" and "live normally". It's like, are you ****ing kidding me?

I would have loved to forget about my bad breath, but people simply wouldn't ever let me forget. Even during times when I knew the odor wasn't present and so not bothersome, I'd have to tolerate rude behaviors from colleagues and classmates including massive sniffling, scolds and nose rubbing whenever they merely saw me from a distance, forget about even coming close to me. It's almost like they wanted me to have it in that moment even though they also knew it wasn't offensive at that time.

In that sense, having chronic bad breath is like being a child molester because it affects others in such a base way that it is below people's mental threshold for minding their manners, and unleashes the vindictive, callous, merciless monster within with utmost fury. Chronic halitosis sufferers have to suffer in silence with the endless persecution of this monster.

Hell, I'm over 90% better now and there are people I know who through their rude gestures still don't want to let me break free from the chains. There is simply no atoning for this crime in the minds of non-sufferers. There is simply no understanding to allow any mercy. Once a stinker you're branded with the scarlet letter for life.

And for every person in your life who's more or less learned to manage knowing this chronic fact of life about you and be able to control themselves enough not to raise your blood pressure about it at least half the time, there's one more you just met who will, like every single one of the others at the beginning, and inspite of your total non-reaction to/ignoring of their gestures, never fail to assume that you, like themselves and everyone else of course, are better than to have this problem and who will make it their personal priority with all kinds subtle and non-subtle attention-grabbing gestures to let you know that you have bad breath and are better than having to have it.

For true sympathy there has to be understanding, and for people like us, there is simply none to be had.

[Charley]

Well said Than, I'm in ur camp, unfortunately...... even my dad told me 'your breath, its your breath, it stinks, sort it out' i was 21 and will never forget it.

Thats without the shool kid taunts from the age of 12, and work colleagues - one even asked me if I had s*it myself at my desk.

Was walking along behind a friend (am i the only one who walks a step behind so the momentum of movement takes the smell away?!) who stopped suddenly, I bumped into her and she said 'god, something stinks'.

People move away from me on the train..... I wont go on but its never ending, so yes, I get pretty pissed when someone tells me to think positively and it'll all go away, and those idiots who promise this new gum/m.wash/toothpaste will work but it'll cost a fortune.

Why can't someone be honest and solve it. I'd gladly pay as much as I could to get it cured, I had an operation to get my tonsils out for god sake!

The person who comes up with the cure will be minted.

[Archimonde]

even my dad told me 'your breath, its your breath, it stinks, sort it out' i was 21 and will never forget it.

That's brutal

[Jimi Stein]

yes your dad is an ass!!

Please be specific who do you thing have halitophobia, and why is that concerning you?

I do not obsess with halitophobia. I never met a person in my life with halitophobia, who else complained about bb actually had it because I smelled it.

You can't ****ing judge people over internet, you just can't.
First of all do you know anybody personally who you know has halitophobia.

If we would trust docs everyone of us would have halitophobia.
I still think Larc is halitophobic and is making it up just to kill time.

I really don't know why is halitophobia bothering you, if Monkey Mel Ugly Ape says people have halitophobia, do you actually believe his hairy monkey ass? I don't ****ing believe a single word coming from that gorilla mouth.

I welcome everybody on this site, remember everyone of us can discover the cure? If we have more people we have greater chance to discover cure.

[Jimi Stein]

I still thin that stomach is the problem, and acids just causing inflammation and suppuration of throat and esophagus.

Or it might be shit coming from intestines into stomach. I am not sure.

Well something is irritating throat strongly. The crap from halitopobia works with me fine and if I take it for few days the bb is almost gone but I cant take the sideeffects.

Why don't you Larc or Thanatos get somebody who can actually tell you where the bb is coming from if oyu get so much reactions.

I must say Larc has not the same ideas that I have, but still I really appreciate him posting here. He really tries I think and he is never rude but I am little annoyed with all these halitophobia. Please be specific who you think is halitophobic in the future or something I don't know.

I will speak to a dentist I just met and hasn't said I don't have bb. I will ask him for help next time I see him.

[Busted]

I agree that that someone in the past must have told you at least once about that you have bb. I don't mean as a joke but he/she has to confront you with the problem. For me it was also a family member. Told me not to get to close to other people on school when I talk, cause whe they smell my bb, they don't want to talk to me. Then offered me some gum and said that the gum didn't really work that well. Everything from that day on started to change. That was really the beginning for me and + the comments about the gum not really workin that well, I knew I was screwed.

Yes, other students before have told me directly I had bb, but back then I thought it was just occassional and not really big deal. But now I knew I had chronic halitosis and started to notice other people don't want to speak to me. One day I had problems with my parents and told me why I never talked, told me I'm a disgrace and all that blah blah blah...I was like, wtf... they didn't even give me a decent life so what are they talkin about...

And then I reffered to the person who told me I had bb and not to speak to other people when standing too close. That person now denies ever telling me that.

[Charley]

One day I had problems with my parents and told me why I never talked, told me I'm a disgrace and all that blah blah blah...I was like, wtf... they didn't even give me a decent life so what are they talkin about...

And then I reffered to the person who told me I had bb and not to speak to other people when standing too close. That person now denies ever telling me that.

Makes me so angry! Why do people do that, don't they realise the impact they had on your life, and then to deny it. That sucks.

[thanatos]

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[Eric]

Touching of nose may not be good on its own. But when you combine it with coughing, weird stares, people always trying to halt conversation with you by agreeing and disengaging, the list goes on... it starts to build a pretty strong case.

For christs sake, there is a difference between someone casually, randomly touching their nose and someone placing their finger under their nose and sneering. And when you start to notice the latter tens of times each day whenever you go to talk, you realize pretty damn quick that either your breath stinks or you accidentally ate shit. Never have eaten shit myself, heard it tastes like chicken.

[Cured]

For christs sake, there is a difference between someone casually, randomly touching their nose and someone placing their finger under their nose and sneering. And when you start to notice the latter tens of times each day whenever you go to talk, you realize pretty damn quick that either your breath stinks or you accidentally ate shit.

Amen to that brother...Amen! If thanatos needs an example of someone who had/has bad breath so flagrant it could be determined just by what he calls "secondary reactions"...let me stand up and shout it from the mountain tops!

To the best of my recollection over the six to seven years I suffered no one, that is, not one single soul ever pulled me aside and told me in words that I have bad breath.

The only person who would dare tell you something like that to your face would be an immediate family member or best friend. Well, in my case I never had a latter and my family had become habituated it without even realizing it and so couldn't smell it.

But as Eric gave ample example of, in my case people's gestures alone were enough humiliation, hurt and embarrassment in at least five or so incidents to nearly choke me up in tears I was shaken up so badly. This is aside from the standard wide variety of comparably somewhat less merciless gestures, including, but not limited to nose pinches, peeling back, disgusted facial contortions, hands pulled up to cover mouth and nose, sniffling, coughing, glares combined with rubbing index finger under nose. I'm sure most here can identify with some to all of these.

Either thanatos didn't think his post through too well before posting or he meant to piss fellow sufferers off intentionally...

P.S.

Besides, we also shouldn't forget that many of us suffer from breath odors different than those people readily identify as "bad breath". To most non-sufferers bad breath equates only with the rotten egg, hydrogen sulfide smell. Anything else is just a bad smell/odor, but it isn't breath. Most non-sufferers would probably identify such as a foul odor coming from the nose or stomach or other body part rather than mouth breath. Chronic halitosis sufferers define "bad breath" or "haltosis" much differently than non-sufferers.

And where did this worthless argument originate in the first place? Isn't this taking the original poster's topic way off?

[integral]

There can be different magnitudes of how bad a given breath is. And if it's bad enough that other people comment directly - that's one thing. But if it's bad, but no bad "enough", you could simply notice gestures from time to time.

I don't know if I have bb or not.

[thanatos]

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[integral]

thanatos, there may be different degrees of bb, so maybe not everyone is told about it due to this reason.