halitosisux wrote:Jimi & keeptrying,
Yes these are both drugs with possibly very dangerous side effects and should only ever be taken with correct medical supervision and nobody should be taking them without striving to do their utmost to have them prescibed by a doctor.
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Sorry I'm gonna write a lot because I have strong feelings about the whole medical community in general)
Tylenol (an over the counter pain reliever) can have serious side effects if taken incorrectly. Cold medicines such as Robitussin, Nyquil, Vicks Formula 44, and Coricidin HBP Cough and Cold tablets can be dangerous if taken incorrectly. Even natural herbs such as tea tree oil, Ephedra, and garlic supplements can have serious side effects if taken incorrectly. I'm not arguing with the fact that both Fluconazole and Metronidazole could have potential serious side effects, but it's important to remember that those serious side effects are very rare and usually only happen to those who are taking the drug incorrectly or who have a medical condition which predisposes them to the serious side effect. Both these drugs have been around for a long while. If they were unsafe for the general population, i'm sure they would have been yanked from the market a long time ago. As a patient, it is your responsibility to research the precautions and potential side effects of
anything you take, whether natural or synthetic, and weigh the potential risks with the possible benefits.
I agree with you that everyone should try and find a doctor who is willing to explore all possible causes of bad breath, including a Candida infection or a bacterial imbalance. It's just that it's a lot easier said than done. Some people don't have jobs, or they don't have medical insurance, and are therefore unable to seek medical treatment. Some people live in a country where their health care has been nationalized. Needless to say they have to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to get anything accomplished, and it usually takes months just to see a doctor. And some people live in a country whose health care system mirrors that of Americas'. If they have medical insurance, they have to follow the rules of their insurance company, which usually means they have to pick a primary care physician and stick with that one doctor for a year, or until they are allowed to update their policy again. And they still have to get a referral from their primary care physician before they can see a specialist, which again can take months. I can tell you dealing with an HMO is not pleasant. Just look at the state of the health care debate in America currently.
If having to fight with the health care system wasn't difficult enough, then you have to pray that you get a doctor who is actually willing to help you. I've come across story after story of bad breath suffers who said something like "I told my doctor I had bad breath and he said he didn't smell anything", "I asked my doctor about bad breath and they told me I was imagining things", or "I asked my doctor about bad breath and he just referred me to a dentist". The fact is that the medical community treats halitosis as a "cosmetic" illness. It's not life threatening, so it can be put on the back burner. In their minds they don't even think it has serious effects on people's lives. Ask any bad breath suffer and they will tell you how serious the effect on their life is.
Anyway, there are a few people who do actually find a good doctor. My doctor was good. She was very kind and helpful. And she was serious about finding the cause of my bad breath. How long did it take to find her? About 10 years. I hope the majority of people don't have to search for that long....but judging by these comments from other forum members, we have a long way to go to change the minds of the medical community...
Archimonde wrote:Don't hesitate to share as much information as you can, people here are very serious and thorough about beating BB. Last time i went to the doc, i asked her to prescribe me an antifungal and she refused, ****ing bitch - she didn't believe in candida.
adventure_girl wrote:All the doctors that I've talked to didn't even know what Candida is! Or at least the extent and other things that Candida causes. So not only was I told that nothing's wrong with me, but I'm left feeling once again lost and hopeless. My determination and knowledge of research only seemed to irritate the doctors even more.
Snobuni wrote:Unfortunately, changing my doctor wouldn't be such an easy thing to do. In the UK we are allocated a GP depending on the area we live in, so I wouldn't be able to get a new doctor unless I moved into another catchment area, that's just the way the NHS works
I would prefer to be examined to find out if I actually have candida, but, as that's unlikely to happen, I'm willing to take the risk of unprescribed medication. As you said, when you have bb, you become fairly desperate and are more willing to take health risks.
Leonardo wrote:I too am surprised at the efficiency of Eastern doctors compared to Western ones. Please do not take this as an insult, but rather a compliment. I suppose as Americans we have an inbred arrogance when it comes to thinking we have the most advanced systems. Obviously not the case.
TIRED wrote:I have often thought over the years that this may be my problem. I had an endoscopy done a while back, but at the time I did not think to ask my doctor about yeast - I ask him long after the fact and he said he did not see yeast, but he looked like he was just saying that to get rid of me.
bali wrote:I'm hoping to find someone here that can help me diagnose my horrible problem, doctors don't seem to believe me. I'm a 30 year old man and have been suffering since I was 15, that's half my life, and I'm not willing to have this anymore.
Doctors don't seem to believe me, since they cant smell it when I see them, I cant ask them to sit next to me for 30-40 minutes to see for them selves. Some of them wanted to send me to psychiatrist, one removed my tonsils (that didn't help) one sent me to get upper endoscopy (everything was fine). They all seem to give up on me in the end, witch is bad because it takes me many months to sum up the courage to see them.
clelandjones wrote:I went to the doctors, a very kind doctor he was, I said I had white coating and he said it was normal, I mentioned the bad taste and he said probably acid reflux and gave me omeprazole and then I mentioned my bad breath, he said he couldn't smell anything at all, and I believe him; he was very close to me, and he wasn't showing a reaction at all, my mother or father doesn't show a reaction at all either.
I went back to my doctors two weeks later, and I broke down, I literally burst into tears, and I told him everything, and this was the turning point with this 'good' doctor, he showed no interest, he wanted me out ASAP, said to try and do well at my school, see how things goes, and if I want to talk to him again make an appointment, he basically me told to get the ***k out.
Jimi wrote:bloorain
stop visiting doctors, that is my suggestion, everone of us goes thru the same procedures and nothing helps. The doctors think they are so smart and put you thru all painful procedures with no results.
If you want to go on, then go on, but my suggestion is to ignore them. Soon they will say that your bb is just in your head, probably put you on some psychiatroc meds and laugh at you.
They are jerks, that is my opinion.
Bb is still such a big tabum that if you dare to say it docs say you are crazy.
DRASTIC wrote:Hi Halitosisux,
Thanks for the useful website.
i havent yet been tested for h.pylori. I have been to several doctors countless GP and they were quite rude to me. I remember one telling me she cant smell an odour because she had a cold. One said she is not going to request any unnecessary test for me if nothing is wrong with me. Another one ignored me and ran me away told me to go to dentist. So, you see I have not had much luck with GPs like many of you already know.
Even when I requested the test they ignored me and said nothing is wrong with me.
halitosisux wrote:Hi Drastic,
Thanks for your reply, i know how exactly how you feel regarding certain doctors and the negativity that their attitudes can sometimes instil in us in these situations. We have to fight that by remembering that one way or another there is an answer for each of us and we must continue persuing until we find it. While anyone on here still has avenues to explore, there is always hope.
I like your comment above Halitosisux. People do have to fight. People do have to remember that there is an answer for them. People do have to have hope. And people do have to explore all avenues. I'm simply providing another avenue for them to explore.