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elliott
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vilenin89 wrote:
I don't understand what host you're using. I get around 2,000 unique hits on my web site per day and I host videos on it sometimes and I use bluehost and it only costs me like 10 dollars a month.
I'm willing to bet that because halitosis as well as halitophobia is SO prevalent, this site is getting TONS of people google searching and dropping in.

However, I'm not going to but a product that doesn't work just to support the site.

Seems nice what TB is doing, but it is business. It's not for me. If they want to help get their name out, they are a big company and can do a little charity in return, perhaps. They should not be forcing people to buy their product, in order to maintain a resource to cure a disease, that their own product can't cure.

Also, great site, but the info on here isn't groundbreaking. It's mainly a great way to feel like you aren't alone with the issues.

If you're going to make the site a subscription site, please at least give us advance notice, so I can exchange info with the people here that I feel have similar symptoms, so we might stay in touch. Other than that, at this point most of what's on this site has been said and done before, and much of it can be misleading. I'm not going to pay, sorry. I sent $50 USD some time back, don't know what happened to it, but hey at least I tried to support it. I'm will not pay rent to read the internet though. I already pay my ISP.

Thanks for the site and everything, I'm not saying I don't appreciate it.
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Jimi
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so collect info, TB said it is probably last month they are paying. Not sure but it looks that way. I can't support the site myself sorry.

I am not telling you to buy products if they dont work, I am telling people who are buying products from TB to buy from our site so they see we get the costumers. I am not sure if charity will prevail, probably not.

And yes I am not doing subscription, I will jsut shut it down if I will have to pay the programer again and also the host.
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Susie
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Jimi,
I could not justify ordering products that don't work for me. I feel like dealing with Katz products that don't work is like dancing with the devil. I would much rather donate than contribute to a product that doesn't work.

Please let us know if Katz backs out.

Susie
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Jimi
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I am sorry for havoc I just caused. I never want people to buy something that a'int working for them. Some people claimed TB helps them, so I just focus on these people, not everybody else. I am so sorry for misunderstanding.

Well, if TB wants to back out, they will I guess. Wow I never thought my email will provoke so many people. I just say if you like TB products buy from our website through banner, if you dont like it, please don't buy.
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Ash
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be more willing to donate to any charity that fully publishes it's finances. However significant bandwidth savings could be made on this website by removing unnecessary content such as the chatroom and other general crap. This website is full of old stuff that could be removed, loads of tips on how to reduce bb such as crazy diets and herbal remedies which are totally unsubstantiated by scientific evidence, compared to proper clinical trials showing the effectiveness of Metronidazole on halitosis for example. The only way to move forwards towards a cure is if the website maintains a higher scientific standard than it currently does. The design of the website also needs a revamp, it's usability is less than desirable I would be happy to help with web development and hosting costs if these changes were to happen. The bandwidth of the homepage itself could be reduced by about 50% easily
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iva
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash,

very good ideas, I agree with u 100%
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Jimi
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i think the best to shut it down, it is just a finance burden to me

How can i show you finances, do you think how much we colected each month?
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Ash
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimi wrote:
Yes i think the best to shut it down, it is just a finance burden to me

How can i show you finances, do you think how much we colected each month?


I suppose the the invoices of the web services and the state of the bank account used to pay them. That would be what a non-profit corporation would be made to do anyway. At the moment this website is simply a forum where people post failed treatment stories and suggest crazy and potentially dangerous ideas to one other, with more voluntary staff the the website could be much improved. Adding a more scientific approach to the website with cited journal articles would do much to improve it's credibility. I imagine most people come to this website see a forum of sob stories and leave.
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HS
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just sent 50 euros Smile (don't put me on donations page, just keep it anonymous Smile )

I think raising 300 euros a month is too much though, I think it'd be best if you either put lots of advertising on the site or just keep the forum alive.

Maybe, just keep useful information on here and delete old/useless stuff?

I'd hate to see this site go down, especially when we have smart minds like 'aydinmur' with us now.

Just a suggestion
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solitude
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this site is a real useful site, and with the number of clicks it gets per day it must be of a significant value to some investor.

I help host a large site that costs now where near as much as 3600 per year to host.

If you maybe give us some basic information such as average monthly bandwidth, who your host is, the areas of large traffic then maybe we can help.

I think the reason people are unwilling to pay is that there is no evidence of where the money is going to.

If you do decide to discontinue please at least make a copy of the forum and database so we can set up a mirror.
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Ash
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

solitude wrote:

I think the reason people are unwilling to pay is that there is no evidence of where the money is going to.


I think this is the problem, I can run a forum with this many members on my home computer for next to nothing using Apache Tomcat and JForum.
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Jimi
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys, we received this month

50 Eur
20 Eur
5 Eur

I appreciate this

However, how can I publish the finances, I can't open the company just for this, there are a lot of costs to do this, I can't declare a site to be a donation site, I keep it away from public, I don't want any gov to stick their nose in the finances.

What do you mean publishing finances, I can publish how much we got each month, I will not hide anything.

I can write date and amount and username, but people usually don't want to be known.

If you can donate, do it please, if you don't want, don't, I am not hiding anything.
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Susie
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash wrote:
At the moment this website is simply a forum where people post failed treatment stories and suggest crazy and potentially dangerous ideas to one other,


Hey Ash,
Don't want to seem mean, but I was wondering if you could provide some examples of this.

Susie
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Susie
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The above post says "Jimi wrote". I don't know why that got on there but that quote is from Ash.

Sorry Jimi don't know how to remove that.

Susie
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Jimi
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just leave it, susie

this site is the best resource for bad breath, what works works and what is scam is a scam, this is the only place where you get decent reality of bad breath world

and that is why we need to keep it alive
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