halitosisux wrote:Funny, but I was thinking just a few days ago that its bacteria that produce the potent foul odours, not yeast. And if yeast and bacteria are constantly fighting it out then how come certain harmless yeasts cant be used as some kind of weapon against BB bacteria. And here we have it.
I've thought about this now that you've mentioned it again Hal. You say that you believe only bacteria is responsible for the foul odors, whereas yeast is not supposed to produce such odors. Although I have linked a couple sources on another thread which discuss how yeast does in fact have a distinct unpleasant odor that is associated with it, I wanted to go the extra mile here and say that everyone has Candida yeast in their bodies to some extent, but it is usually keep in check by both the beneficial bacteria located in our bodies as well as the immune system. However, in certain circumstances when Candida is able to grow and proliferate in the body, it morphs from it's yeast form to it's fungal form.
The Candida infection that was in my esophagus was the latter, so we are talking about fungus and not yeast anymore. I guess this is why they call the medications anti fungals and not anti yeasts. Anyway, perhaps that would explain why there was such an odor coming from my esophagus, because at that point we were not dealing with Candida in it's yeast form, but we were dealing with it in it's fungal form.
But I still want to point out that I do believe an imbalance of yeast can be responsible for bad breath. If people are looking for lab research to back this up, then visit the MeBO thread (
viewtopic.php?t=2546&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30?) in which baguio posted the research that Maria has done, which as of now has shown that 5 out of 7 people complaining of bad breath/body odor have had raised ethanol levels, which is a sign of yeast fermentation in the small intestines.
trouble wrote:what do you guys think of a treatment with brewing-yeast?
i found that yaegaki made an experiment in 1999, which showed very good outcomes (reduction of 80 % vsc after one week covering the tongue with yeast befor going to bed). he patented his "invention" but i couldnt find more recent studies to this topic...
tried it by myself, but it brought no permanent relief. just enhanced my tonsil stones.
i wonder if somebody tried it, because the result of this very study sound amazing!
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The research does look interesting, but remember, just as there are both good and bad bacteria, such is true for yeast. The yeast that they were using in this research was a specific stain that they use when brewing wine. It's not the same as Candida yeast. I also believe they make kefir with certain beneficial strains of yeast (perhaps it's the same strain). Of course if people want to try this possible remedy, I would say go for it. Perhaps if I were still suffering from bad breath I might try this as well, but as i'm not, and as I know that I clearly have a susceptibility to Candida, I would prefer not to supplement with any yeast containing product. That's just me though.