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So, go to your pharmacist and get some charcoal, and give it a try.
Does this mean my BB has a gastrointestinal source after all..?
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My tongue and saliva stink, that's for sure. I thought I had the classic tongue-based anaerobic BB, but it could be a false lead. Maybe the source is elsewhere for some of us, and the tongue-smell is secondary?halitosisux wrote:Larc, roughly what kind of BB do you have?
Does your tongue get smelly/tonsil stones/coming out of the lungs only, etc
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The same volatile chemicals produced by oral bacteria can also be produced by gut bacteria and potentially find their way into the mouth via the secretions of mucus and saliva.
It is known that in TMAU, trimethylamine is found in most bodily secretions, including saliva. Whether there is any evidence of other volatile chemicals in saliva or mucus is the important question.
The mechanisms behind TMAU are fairly well understood, and its quite likely there are other very similar 'disorders' which could produce odours in an almost identical way.
If charcoal is reducing your BB then its significant.
There are also lots of ways that foul smelling chemicals can be produced in the gut and find their way into the breath, apart from just defective enzymes. Secondary TMAU is an example of this.
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>in saliva or mucus is the important question.
Of course there are. Ammonia, nitrous oxyde, B-hydroxy-butirat, valeric acid, and more volatile chemicals are found in saliva.
>I am wondering how so many hidden issues can be interconnected -
>malabsorption/food intolerances, lack of enzymes, candida, sinus/
>throat issues leading to alted saliva, what else? Aydinmur,
>what is your opinion on this?
I have no idea how charcoal mechanism works. I guess its placed some pills used for digestive problems (like intestinol). If one person says "charcoal stops my halitosis" , then, I order feces digestion test to detect his pancreatic sufficiency, and stool pH. Furthermore, its necessary to ask a lot of question to this person.
>Aydinmur stated though that he rarely sees Type 1 cases
>in his clinic - okay, this might be because
The day before yesterday one dentist said: "I have never encountered type 4 case, neither type 3. My all patients type 1 or unresolved halitosis cases".
I guess, Their unresolved halitosis patients may be type 2/3/4/5 cases forwarded to me.
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"Of course there are. Ammonia, nitrous oxyde, B-hydroxy-butirat, valeric acid, and more volatile chemicals are found in saliva."
I'm assuming that these substances are NOT in saliva as it is produced by the salivary glands, but that they are absorbed once the saliva comes in contact with them in the mouth.
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Cheers, CActivated charcoal is highly adsorbent; when it is ingested at the same time as medication, supplements and foods it may decrease their absorption and utilization. Therefore, always allow 2 hours before and wait 2 hours after using activated charcoal to eat, take supplements or swallow medication.
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Yes, they are not secreted by gland parankim tissue. They are produced by oral bacteria and solved in saliva.Phantasist wrote:I'm assuming that these substances are NOT in saliva as it is produced by the salivary glands, but that they are absorbed once the saliva comes in contact with them in the mouth.
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