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Crepusculo
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Well I've also tried curing bad breath with this antibiothic called Proflox, which kept me clear for about two weeks. I was wondering if anyone here as tried hydrogen peroxide, i got surprised about how many websites there are out there saying this cures bad breath. Apparently it is not advertised simply because noone has to gain from this. It's very cheap and anyone can get it anywhere. Pretty much what you do is use your tongue brushed with it and scrape your tongue. It gets these white bubbles at first because it's the oxygen killing the anerobic bacteria. It does make sense... for the throat you dilute it half and half with water and just gargle and spit. Well i've tried this and i must say it did work. I did it two times, after lunch and before bedtime, and when i woke up i didnt even have morning breath. It was a weird, yet good, feeling. Anyway, i didnt keep on using it because i talked with someone with chronic bad breath who said it works at first, then it gets worse, so i didnt want to risk it. I dont know if that would happen since i googled it and found nothing about it, but either way i didnt risk it. Anyway, i was curious if someone has experimented with hydrogen peroxide so far.
ive been away a while observing my progress and dont really know what to say. Cant say Im bb free. But i cant say im the same as i was before doing h. pylori treatment.
The things that have NOT changed since completing the treatment about a month ago: I still feel the need to tongue clean as my tongue gets coated, i still get morning breath, i still have sinus issues and post nasal drip.
The things that HAVE changed since completing treatment: The coating on my tongue is now not nearly as smelly as it was and wont build up to a detectable level for 12 hours, morning breath doesnt stay long and goes away if i eat something, dont have anymore tonsil stones, dont have a bad shit smell on my floss when i floss through my back teeth.
I also still use K12 probiotics and believe this is keeping me where i need to be. Before the h. pylori treatment, the K12 bacteria wouldnt hang around all week long (you colonise the mouth once a week) but now it seems my breath benefits from it all week. But last weekend something happened and my breath was BAD but not like i had tasted before, this was unbelievable. I actrually tasted shit in my mouth for two days. My brother told me my breath was ****ing horrible, it seems i have never had this truly bad breath before according to him. I dont know where it came from but maybe it could have something to do with the fact I started taking threelac last week... i really dont know. Even after tongue cleaning and brushing i couldnt get the taste out, i think in those two days i actually had the kind of bb you guys talk about. Maybe it was the treelac cleansing out the toxins from my body. Im going to write to the threelac people about it and find out if this is common. But anyway, after colonizing my mouth again today that taste and smell has gone away and im back to post-treatment levels.
In about another month i will stop using the probiotics and only tongue clean to see if i can survive w/o the expensive probiotic treatment. The info on it says you usually only need to do the probiotic round for 4 weeks, and then the mouth should have created a status quo for itself.
will see what happens.
The things that have NOT changed since completing the treatment about a month ago: I still feel the need to tongue clean as my tongue gets coated, i still get morning breath, i still have sinus issues and post nasal drip.
The things that HAVE changed since completing treatment: The coating on my tongue is now not nearly as smelly as it was and wont build up to a detectable level for 12 hours, morning breath doesnt stay long and goes away if i eat something, dont have anymore tonsil stones, dont have a bad shit smell on my floss when i floss through my back teeth.
I also still use K12 probiotics and believe this is keeping me where i need to be. Before the h. pylori treatment, the K12 bacteria wouldnt hang around all week long (you colonise the mouth once a week) but now it seems my breath benefits from it all week. But last weekend something happened and my breath was BAD but not like i had tasted before, this was unbelievable. I actrually tasted shit in my mouth for two days. My brother told me my breath was ****ing horrible, it seems i have never had this truly bad breath before according to him. I dont know where it came from but maybe it could have something to do with the fact I started taking threelac last week... i really dont know. Even after tongue cleaning and brushing i couldnt get the taste out, i think in those two days i actually had the kind of bb you guys talk about. Maybe it was the treelac cleansing out the toxins from my body. Im going to write to the threelac people about it and find out if this is common. But anyway, after colonizing my mouth again today that taste and smell has gone away and im back to post-treatment levels.
In about another month i will stop using the probiotics and only tongue clean to see if i can survive w/o the expensive probiotic treatment. The info on it says you usually only need to do the probiotic round for 4 weeks, and then the mouth should have created a status quo for itself.
will see what happens.
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CyberchndriacNot
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restoring the good flora
Day 6 for me. And all is well - no BB. I'm now looking into some form of prebiotics i.e. oats and probiotics i.e. Lactobacillus- and Bifidobacterium to restore the good flora in my small and large intestines.
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Another two days before I come off the antibiotics and I'm going to be watching all the food I eat so that a balance can be restored. I hope it is this simple.
Diet will consist mainly of oats, yoghurt, cooked vegetables and vegetable soup.
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Another two days before I come off the antibiotics and I'm going to be watching all the food I eat so that a balance can be restored. I hope it is this simple.
Diet will consist mainly of oats, yoghurt, cooked vegetables and vegetable soup.
do everything u say you are going to do, but dont expect your breath to be that good after u stop treatment. It will change, the important thing is how much does it change for the worse. Mine went downhill a bit then plateaued to a nice middle ground. I am maintaining that with probiotics.
oh, i had my first tonsil stone last night since before the treatment. Damn. But i tell you what, that bad "episode" i talked about aerlier, it was the exact same as last night. the only difference is last night the shit taste came on very quickly, then dissapeared as soon as a tonsil stone was coughed up. We're talking about a minute.
Maybe last week there was a tonsil stone lodged in my throat which couldnt get out, so for a few days i had very shitty bb, then i must have swallowed it or coughed it up and not known, so the smell went away. This time, the stone came out immediately, and the taste went away then.....very interesting
oh, i had my first tonsil stone last night since before the treatment. Damn. But i tell you what, that bad "episode" i talked about aerlier, it was the exact same as last night. the only difference is last night the shit taste came on very quickly, then dissapeared as soon as a tonsil stone was coughed up. We're talking about a minute.
Maybe last week there was a tonsil stone lodged in my throat which couldnt get out, so for a few days i had very shitty bb, then i must have swallowed it or coughed it up and not known, so the smell went away. This time, the stone came out immediately, and the taste went away then.....very interesting
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CyberchndriacNot
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Probiotic tablets
OK, so I went to the pharmacy and bought myself some probiotic tablets - Advanced Multi-billion Dophilus made by Solgar which I have to take for a month and I also bought some plain probiotic yoghurt with the bacteria I stated in my previous posting. Still feeling good - no BB!
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CyberchndriacNot
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One day after triple therapy
Day 8 - One day after the triple therapy. No BB. Taking 2 probiotic capsules per day and eating mostly cooked vegetables, plain yogurt with acidophillus and drinking lots of bottled water. Still a bit windy after the antibiotics but feeling ecstatic...
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CyberchndriacNot
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Tx Jimi for your support
I suppose I could introduce myself. I'm nobody special - I don't endorse any products. I do not support any doctors although I have a whole lot of respect for the Australian researchers who isolated the H. Pylori bacteria. There's nothing much to say other than I am testing out some of the things others have stated might work. I only know one thing is for sure and that is that since I have been on the triple therapy my BB has gone away. By reading others' posts it might be short-lived. I haven't responded to other peoples' posts although I do read them and have found your experiences to be useful. Please don't take offence to my failure of not responding to you - I am still publicly coming to terms with my condition. Am I self-absorbed in all of this? Maybe I am. I have been fighting this all my life. It has been a silent fight and maybe I am now becoming emotional because for the first time I am publicly acknowledging it. Is this the first step in the healing process? I don't know. 
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waitingforrelief
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cyber,
if being self-absorbed is what you are right now, keep being self-absorbed. you need to do what you can do to take care of yourself. it's good that we give each other tips and support, but everyone also needs to take care of themselves first and foremost. so however that you go about that, do it. i think i understand what you are going thru', at least partly. i've fought this battle silently most of my life as well. but it has only begun to hit me really, really hard emotionally in the last few months/weeks. and i'm only "coming out" with starting to post on message boards, and the latest, talking about it with someone in my life all in the last few weeks. i'm really really glad that you may have found a solution. i really hope that it lasts for you.
i've asked the same question about the healing process. and i don't really have an answer. i try to see if there's a "reason" this is happening to me, but i flip-flop between trying to rationalize it too much and deciding that it's simply an ailment. that it's just life.
anyway, take care of yourself. i hope you try to enjoy life with the freedom that you deserve.
if being self-absorbed is what you are right now, keep being self-absorbed. you need to do what you can do to take care of yourself. it's good that we give each other tips and support, but everyone also needs to take care of themselves first and foremost. so however that you go about that, do it. i think i understand what you are going thru', at least partly. i've fought this battle silently most of my life as well. but it has only begun to hit me really, really hard emotionally in the last few months/weeks. and i'm only "coming out" with starting to post on message boards, and the latest, talking about it with someone in my life all in the last few weeks. i'm really really glad that you may have found a solution. i really hope that it lasts for you.
i've asked the same question about the healing process. and i don't really have an answer. i try to see if there's a "reason" this is happening to me, but i flip-flop between trying to rationalize it too much and deciding that it's simply an ailment. that it's just life.
anyway, take care of yourself. i hope you try to enjoy life with the freedom that you deserve.
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CyberchndriacNot
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Thanks for your kind words waiting. Don't be so haste saying that I have found a solution. Time will tell. The only thing I have found out is that the urea ammonia sulphur fecal smell has been eliminated whilst on the triple therapy. This is only the day after and effects of antibiotics are still in my system. One thing is for sure - that the antibiotic changed something. I am speculating that it was H.pylori, bu I don't know as i have never been tested for it. I am posting my experiences so that others with similar histories can explore possible options that MIGHT help them.
okay so the bad smell has returned to the floss when i pass it through my teeth, and now my tongue has become increasingly yellow coated and i "feel" that my breath is pretty much where it was BEFORE doing the h. pylori treatment. so i guess i am where i started.
But im not too dissapointed because i think i finally realise that i am quite fortunate in my condition when compared to some of you (i say that not to tease but rather shed some light on my type of bb)
Using a tongue gel and the k12 probiotics helps a great deal, and i can enjoy enough fresh breath time to socialise and meet people. If my breath starts to get a bit smelly, i just need to do my routine again. Of course it makes it difficult to meet a girl and go to her house that night, but if i bring her to mine i can clean my tongue.
I know for a fact that my bb is not fecal, based partly on the feedback of close frineds and my brother, and also because recently whenever i cough up a tonsil stone i get a very very bad shit taste in my mouth just prior to coughing it up. I talk close to my brother when this taste is in my mouth and he nearly vomits. He says it smells like X's breath. X is a friend of ours who has heavy fecal halitosis from 2 meters or more away. This is how i know my bb is not as bad as some people here. Because my breath only smells like X's when i get that taste in my mouth and a tonsil stone comes out. Sometimes i cant cough one up, then after a while the taste goes away. But i know the taste is exactly what X's breath smells like.
Normally, i know i have my kind of bb when my taste turns sour. This can only be smelled when i am close with someone. Talking right in their face.
I dont know if this is helpful at all, but maybe it could explain a few things. Maybe its all tonsil stone related...
But im not too dissapointed because i think i finally realise that i am quite fortunate in my condition when compared to some of you (i say that not to tease but rather shed some light on my type of bb)
Using a tongue gel and the k12 probiotics helps a great deal, and i can enjoy enough fresh breath time to socialise and meet people. If my breath starts to get a bit smelly, i just need to do my routine again. Of course it makes it difficult to meet a girl and go to her house that night, but if i bring her to mine i can clean my tongue.
I know for a fact that my bb is not fecal, based partly on the feedback of close frineds and my brother, and also because recently whenever i cough up a tonsil stone i get a very very bad shit taste in my mouth just prior to coughing it up. I talk close to my brother when this taste is in my mouth and he nearly vomits. He says it smells like X's breath. X is a friend of ours who has heavy fecal halitosis from 2 meters or more away. This is how i know my bb is not as bad as some people here. Because my breath only smells like X's when i get that taste in my mouth and a tonsil stone comes out. Sometimes i cant cough one up, then after a while the taste goes away. But i know the taste is exactly what X's breath smells like.
Normally, i know i have my kind of bb when my taste turns sour. This can only be smelled when i am close with someone. Talking right in their face.
I dont know if this is helpful at all, but maybe it could explain a few things. Maybe its all tonsil stone related...
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ihatebacteria123
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Would really recommend you getting your tonsils out. You seem like the classic case.
austuser wrote:okay so the bad smell has returned to the floss when i pass it through my teeth, and now my tongue has become increasingly yellow coated and i "feel" that my breath is pretty much where it was BEFORE doing the h. pylori treatment. so i guess i am where i started.
But im not too dissapointed because i think i finally realise that i am quite fortunate in my condition when compared to some of you (i say that not to tease but rather shed some light on my type of bb)
Using a tongue gel and the k12 probiotics helps a great deal, and i can enjoy enough fresh breath time to socialise and meet people. If my breath starts to get a bit smelly, i just need to do my routine again. Of course it makes it difficult to meet a girl and go to her house that night, but if i bring her to mine i can clean my tongue.
I know for a fact that my bb is not fecal, based partly on the feedback of close frineds and my brother, and also because recently whenever i cough up a tonsil stone i get a very very bad shit taste in my mouth just prior to coughing it up. I talk close to my brother when this taste is in my mouth and he nearly vomits. He says it smells like X's breath. X is a friend of ours who has heavy fecal halitosis from 2 meters or more away. This is how i know my bb is not as bad as some people here. Because my breath only smells like X's when i get that taste in my mouth and a tonsil stone comes out. Sometimes i cant cough one up, then after a while the taste goes away. But i know the taste is exactly what X's breath smells like.
Normally, i know i have my kind of bb when my taste turns sour. This can only be smelled when i am close with someone. Talking right in their face.
I dont know if this is helpful at all, but maybe it could explain a few things. Maybe its all tonsil stone related...
