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List of treatments and a possible cure

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Hi everyone,

I have had a lot of improvement and would like to share it with you although it still isnt conclusive. I understand that this may have been done before, but let's try an update of everything we have ever tried to get rid of bad breath. So, I'll start with what I have spent my $$$$$$$$$$$'s for the past 20 odd years.

At first, I thought my problem was type 1, then type 2, type 3 and so on. So here's a list:

Type 1:

-H202 mouthwash
-salt+baking soda+h202 self made toothpaste
- closys
-Katz (i hate his ****ing smile)
-breeze care
-OraMd
-sonic toothbrush
-K12 probiotics
-dioxirinse
-oral irrigator.

I've tried so many over the years that I may have forgotten a few, but you get the picture.

Type 2

-Sinus irrigator with saline solution
-All types of tongue brushes

Didnt really insist on type 2 because I've never had a problem with sinus, tonsils, throat, dont have white tongue, etc.

Type 3

-Bentonite clay
-Psylium husk powder
-Ginger root
-DGL
-Fennel seeds
-Oil of Oregano
-Colloidal silver
-Multivitamins
-7 day juice fast with colemas twice daily
-Olive leaf
-Digestive enzymes
-Probiotics
-Colostrum

Here again I may have missed a few, I've been trying stuff for years and simply cant remember everything.

Type 4

-Kidney cleanse
-Liver cleanse
-Milk thisle, and other liver support products
-Parasite cleanse

Type 5

I am not delusional...

Conclusion:

I have had some succes with P&B shake, which made me think my BB was type 3. Also had some succes with oil of oregano and colloidal silver(not taken together) as well as probiotics. Gives me relief for a few days, then it comes back with a vengeance. Colloidal silver made me bad breath free for about 10 days.

But then, I tried the liver support from renewlife, and I was bad breath free for almost a month! So I figured my problem may very well be type 4. I decided to do a liver cleanse, which I evacuated at least a 100 stones and went ahead and bought the book "the cure of all diseases" by Dr Clark.

In her book, she advises to do a parasite cleanse first, so that's what I did but only recently. I bought the tincture and herbs online (black walnut, wormwood, cloves) and went through the process. Well, as it turns out, I had parasites. Tons of them!!! It freaked me out completely.

The thing is, my breath improved significantly. I am not saying that I am cured, it has only been 3 weeks and I still have bad breath because since seing worms coming out of me, I eat a ton of garlic and onions which is part of the anti parasite diet, but it is not room filling anymore. I can speak to someone 3-4 feet away and they have no reaction (which was impossible before).

I've ordered ozonated olive oil, Clarkia tincture (I intend to do an enema with it), and diatomaceous earth. I keep on taking P&B to flush them out, and have also taken a massive 3000mg dose of CoQ10 which have seemed to unblock my digestive tract. I got really constipated since starting the cleanse.

One thing also happened, since starting the parasite cleanse, I can now smell my own body odor. I smell it everywhere on my clothes, my bed sheets, PJs etc. And let me say that I STINK!!!!!

So, like I said, it's still inconclusive and I am really not sure I got rid of my BB . That's why I know I still have bad breath and the reaction from people when I get close(garlic and onions?). It's clear it's too soon to tell (only been 3 weeks) but I would advise everyone of you who still have not done so to do a parasite cleanse ASAP.


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I just don't buy the phony shit.. and even if there's something to these cleanses, it's indisputable that there's a market full of bogus 'me too' body cleanse products that don't do anything.

That said, I'd love to hear the thing you're doing now, in detail, that proved there were parasites.

What are the instructions for the cleanse, the exact ingredients you used and what you did with them.


Sounds like you're on the right track. Good luck!
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Hi Mike,

You're right, noone should blindly buy into a cleanse without doing some serious research first. I had heard of Dr Hulda Clark years ago and decided do go ahead with it only after reading a lot of positive feed backs on curezone. They have practicaly an entire section dedicated to the differente types of Clark cleanse. There's also the fact that I tried just about everything else and had nothing to loose.

Like I mentioned in my previous post, the cleanse consist of 3 herbs, black walnut, wormwood, and cloves. Black walnut and wormwood taken together kill the adult parasites while the cloves kill the eggs and it is supposed to be effective for over 100 different parasites in the body. This is the protocol:

- 2 tsp blackwalnut tincture once a day 15mn before breakfast
- 3 capsules of wormwood 3xday 15mn before meals
- 3 capsules of cloves 3xday with meals

You'll find more details here:

http://www.cleansehelp.com/checklists/h ... e-cleanse/

The first time I took the supplements was like taking a breath mint for my gut, I felt really fresh inside and felt like my BB was instantly gone. I had always had the feeling that the odors came from deep within. That same night , when I went to the bathroom, I released a very thick stool filled with what seemed like small very white sesame seeds. On the outside of the stool, there must of been at least 200-300 of them.

I freaked because they were abnormally white and I had not eaten any sesame seeds. Even if I had, nothing like this ever happened aftwards. So googled it and found that they were parasite eggs. Couldn't find what type of parasites though, it seemed they could be any thing from tapeworm to ascaris.

Anyways, I kept with the program and kept on passing very large quantities of them for about a week. As the completely white seeds disapeared from my stools, I started to see larger ones with a black spot at the top of the seed-like whatever the ***k it was. I also started seeing strange looking yellowish-brown pieces of corn, some looked whole while others looked broken.

Let me tell you that at this point I really started to panic because there where tons of them and it lasted for another 4-5 days. I considered going to see a doctor, but I live in Montreal and the health care here is crap. I have had digestive tract disorders all my life and things are clearing up on there own. No doctor and specialist I have ever seen ever even considered recommending a parasite test, and I have seen them on 3 different continents. No more acid reflux, no more hiatal hernia pains, no more tender stomach and a general unease that usually tells me I have gastritis again. All this tells me I have been carrying these suckers for a very long time.

I did suffer from serious insomnia for about a week and I got very constipated so I took P&B shakes morning and night which helped a lot. I read that the constipation is due to the parasites releasing a toxin in the gut to paralize it when they feel threatned.

Now I finished the herbs and have started with a 15 day paragone program (herbs are expensive). I also bought CoQ10, L-cystein, and ozonated olive oil because even Dr Clark in her book says that the herbs won't take care of all of them as they get too diluted by the time they reach the colon. I also got a tincture called Clakia which is basically the same herbs but in concentrated form. Once the paragone is finished, I'll stop for 5 days, and start with the Clarkia. I will also do a clakia enema today because die off symptoms can get pretty intense (sever headaches and painfull stomach cramps).

I took a dose of 3000mg CoQ10 with ozonated olive oil and L-cystein yesterday and it felt like my head was about to burst the entire day and night! (CoQ10 1/week, OOO 1tbls/day, 2 caps L-cystein 3xday). Still waiting for diatomaceous earth to get here. It is supposed to be very effective against intestinal parasites. I should get it today or early next week. Here's an interesting link about DE, but you have to read the entire thread:

http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php?topic=21338.0

Not really sure my bad breath is completely gone, but I'm not done with the cleanse yet as I can feel movement in my gut and my anus has begone to itch (possibly pinworms). But I can tell you it has improved dramaticaly. On bad days, my breath is so bad that all I have to do is say hi without expelling air in an elevator to get everyone inside wide eyed and shoked. I have not had a bad day since starting the cleanse. I also realized just how bad my BO is.

Look it up, do your own research and if you find you've tried everything and nothing works, by all means, do a parasite cleanse. I'll do a follow up on the cleanse as it can take several months to get rid of them especially when one has been infected for a long time. But please understand that I am not crying victory here, I've done that in the past only to find myself back to square one with the depression that comes with deception.
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Post by HigherThoughts »

sputnik - I have taken a tincture that was mixed with all 3 of those herbs, but I never tried taking a combination of each herb separately. For me the tincture did not help at all, and I don't think I have parasites. It did help me release bowels but then my stools became very broken up.
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One thing I learned since starting this program is that not all parasites are visible to the naked eye. That being said, it really doesnt hurt to do a preventive treatment just in case, which you did.

I had a splitting headache all day today which decreased after my enema, I also did a P&B shake. Afterwards, I couldnt see what came out because the water was too dirty to see anything. But I have one of those weak flush systems in my toilet and after I flushed, I did see something that looked like a tremator, you can see one here:

http://www.parasitecleanse.com/GALLERY.HTM

It was about an inch long and half an inch wide and it floated half way down the toilet like a jelly fish. :-&

Felt that fresh feeling again in my gut after the enema.
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Post by halitosisux »

Sputnik, I've read that intestinal parasites can cause nasal odour. I hope you manage to clear it all eventually, along with your BB!
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I dont think I ever had nasal odors but I do have serious BO. I smell it on all my clothes and especially my bed sheets. Will be going to the laundromat tomorrow.
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Post by halitosisux »

Ahh. I saw sinus flush in your list and just assumed you've suffered with nasal odours. Please keep giving your updates, they are fascinating.

But, I just chickened out of clicking on that gallery link. I would TOTALLY freak out if I saw any parasites come out. You sound so cool about it! I can't even bring myself to look at pictures of them.
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Post by ruch »

what is a P&B shake?

yes, please keep us updated!

i found the whole book here:
http://archive.org/stream/TheCureForAll ... r_djvu.txt
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P&B shake is Psylium husk powder mixed with Bentonite clay. It's very good for cleansing the bowels.

Die off symtoms have increased in the last couple of days. I am feeling really sick and the insomia has returned (massive headaches and flu-like symtoms). I'm almost through the paragone program and will be taking a 5 day break, cleasing really is a little rough on the system. And I will do another enema tonight, but this time I will use only blackwalnut tincture with it.

I stopped eating garlic and onions and substituted with shallots, it doesnt give you bad breath. My breath has been feeling very fresh since and I have had zero reactions so far.

I really dont feel good guys so I won't go into more details but i will keep you posted during the week.

By the way, I would recommend you read that book, I got the paper back version but it still is a great read.
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Has anyone tried Sinus Buster? It is a capsaicin-based nasal spray
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Sputnik, I want to know more about how it's going for you.

I ordered a kit that consists of basically the same products.. It should arrive this week. I wonder if I should try it before going home for vacation next month.
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Hi guys, here's an update.

I have no reactions anymore from people I don't know like sales people in shops or cashiers at the supermarket, but at work, people still step back. Although some of my coworkers are starting to progressively get closer like they wonder why they're not smelling anything anymore. But I do sometimes see a reaction from people but I'm not sure if its paranoia or if its bad breath.

One example, today I had to eat lunch outside because I didn't have time to cook yesterday as I usually do for 3-4 days in advance. I actually went to McDonalds of all places because I really craved for a big mac (yeah I know). I got in as close as I could to the girl behind the counter and made my order and she took my order and just looked down for at least 10 seconds (they usually back off and stare in horror). My order came right away so I took my tray and as I walked to a table, I looked back and saw the girl telling something to her supervisor and smiling.

I've lived with bad breath for over 20 years and maybe I'm paranoid, but I'm still not certain my bad breath is gone. One thing I am certain of is that it has greatly diminished, as to how much is what I am trying to figure out.

I also have a scarf that I use (its getting cold here in Montreal) and I breath in it on my way to and from work. Once home I put it aside then smell it the next morning. It usually stinks, but I have not smelled anything for a while now.

I put aside the herbal treatment since my last pause and started taking diatomaceaous earth instead. It really has unblocked my GI tract. I got to the bathroom 2-3 times a day now. I am also taking cocoa powder for liver flukes. You can see details here:

http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=878487

http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=878487

Its a great coffe substitute and have started taking it with xylitol only for a couple of days. I've been taking it preventively because I think I may have liver flukes (at this point anything is possible) so I'll let you know how this develops. As an additional step, I will do a liver cleanse in a couple of weeks.

Like I said, the room filling bad breath is over as far as I can tell. Now I need to know if it's completely gone or not. If anyone lives in or near Montreal please let me know so that we could meet, I have noone who will tell me straight up if I still have BB or not.
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Just one last detail I forgot to mention. All the painfull digestive tract disorders that I have suffered in the past 20-25 years have DISAPEARED COMPLETELY!
mike987 wrote:Sputnik, I want to know more about how it's going for you.

I ordered a kit that consists of basically the same products.. It should arrive this week. I wonder if I should try it before going home for vacation next month.
I think most people have critters inside them and dont even know it. The symptoms they cause is particular to each one of us. But everyone should do an anti parasite treatment even if for preventive measures. So you should most definitely try it as soon as you get it. Check your stools and watch for die off effects. If you do find that you have parasites, remember not to rush the cleanse, it'll do more harm than good and set you back.
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That sounds great sputnik!

The kit I ordered is a 20 day kit, where each day is an increasing dosage.

Do you think I should follow those instructions? Today I took only a single capsule of each, and a single drop of Black Walnut in half a cup of water.

It doesn't mention diet other than this, so I'm not doing anything different except taking the kit right now.


Today, my stomach was a little gassy several hours after taking the pills, as low as the dosage was.. I can only hope some little guy in there suffering and showing signs of it.. Poor guys, but I don't need you! ... Well, I hope you're there to explain my BB in the first place. Guh.
I still think before I went to Thailand 7 or 8 years ago, I didn't have any problem.. I've never seen any parasites in my stool before, even after taking praziquantel, but I can't shake the feeling that before that trip, I never had BB, and 2 years after that, my relationship fell apart and I started noticing the lousy state of my shit every day, and getting BB reactions.

I think you may be being paranoid sputnik. Even if there is a little bit of odor remaining, the difference in your life already seems incredible. SO happy for you. Keep enjoying that.



So, have you seen any more critters come out of you? Are you 100 percent sure what you saw before were parasitic organisms?
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