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Source wrote:I have also read about Metronidazole and people experiencing drastic results, but most of them had their BB come back shortly after stopping.
Yes, but I read of four people who claim to be cured by metronidazole on the long run. And in cases where bb came back after stopping to take metronidazole maybe other causes such as tonsils, wisdom teeth and pnd may be the reason for bb. For example halitosisux bb came back after his course of metronidazole and he later found out that one of his wisdom teeth was the culprit.

Source wrote:The thing about white coated tongues is that not everyone who has a coated tongue suffers from BB. I personally knew a few people back in high school who had pretty much white tongues but no hint of BB at all.
That's quite interesting.


I'd recommend you to open up a separate thread where you describe your case. Write down as much information about you and your medical examinations as possible. If you visit doctors always ask for a copy of test results.

What have you already done?
- Have dentists judged your dental status as good? (if it's okay for you make photos of your teeth and tongue and upload them)
- Do you floss regularly (and the right way, google for it)?
- Do you have had a professional cleaning of your teeth done? (btw: didn't help me at all)
- When you rub your finger around the places of your wisdom teeth is there smell on your fingers after waiting some seconds for the saliva to dry?
- Did you have an x-ray done of your teeth? (upload it)
- Have you been tested for Helicobacter Pylori (GP / test on your own by contacting a laboratory for doing a stool test).
- Have you had a swab taken from your tongue (ENT)?
- Have you had the condition of your tonsils judged by an ENT (hopefully not misjudged like some of my doctors did :().
- Have you had a sinus CT scan? (upload it)
- Do you think you have food intolerances? You might want to tested for fructose, gluctose, lactose, sorbit and gluten.
- Do you think you have allergies? You might want to test for this.
- If your doctors can't find anything being wrong with you, believe that you really have a bad breath problem and can't explain it you should ask them for a course of metronidazole (take a copy to your GP/ENT of this official document of the State of Victoria that suggests trying this).
- Is there something else you suspect?

And it's important to have a person who answers you honestly if you ask him/her about the state of your breath. It's partly possible to get indication of your breath smell on your own, but it's not reliable, often misleading and you will get mad sooner or later. Also there are a lot of doctors who won't take you seriously if you don't say them that your bad breath has been confirmed by other people.

If you brush and floss your teeth regularly and correctly there is no reason to feel ashamed for this medical condition. Be open towards your doctors when trying to solve this problem. Doctors hear awkward problems such as bad breath all the time and you shouldn't be the first person who came up with bad breath towards your ENT.

Also having health insurance and money is great for solving this problem. If you want to get rid of this as soon as possible you should explore in as many causes as possible at the same time. Start with the most likely causes and work your way towards more unlikely reasons.

If you can't find the reason go to a specialist.
I recommend visiting Aydin Murat in Istanbul.
He has very good knowledge about this embarrassing issue and won't rip you off like some breath clinics seem to do.
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aues wrote:I am soy and gluten free since 30th of May (also no dairy/meat etc.).

Since Friday, 1st of June i take metronidazole 400mg (14 tablets, one in the morning, one in the evening).
Got it officially from my ENT. Showed her information on the web that suggest trying metronidazole could be a good idea for me, such as this document:
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv ... bad_breath

I woke up on Saturday without any bad taste. Can't smell anything even after 10 hours of not cleaning teeth/mouth. Test person also can't smell anything even while speaking.
But: Tongue isn't pink, it's still white, maybe slightly less whiter, but no major change.

Will use probiotics (K12 and Acidophilus) in the next days/weeks. I am curious to find out whether bad breath comes back after end of antibiotics course. If it does persist I will probably go for getting wisdom teeth out.
Still no bad breath. Metronidazole seems to be the cure for me. Although the whitish tongue hasn't changed.


Update: Dentist said today wisdom teeth have to be taken out. Like Aydin Murat said in 2010...

My previous dentist didn't say that widsom teeth have to be taken out.
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All my three wisdom teeth will be taken out soon.
Lower wisdom teeth wouldn't grow out completely.

Here's an up-to-date xray of my teeth:
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Still cured.
Just have some morning bad breath which goes away gargling water for maybe 30 seconds.
But if I'm awake for like 16 hours (or even longer) there's no bad breath at all. It's great.
I am at the moment not sure whether my whitish tongue got pinker or not - because I didn't care about it in the last weeks.



On Tuesday my wisdom teeth are getting pulled. If I don't write again after that day I have been killed by the butcher, eehm I mean doctor.
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Wisdom teeth are out. Quite painless beside the 20 or 30 seconds they are actually pulling out the teeth.

Surgeon talked about a cyst under the wisdom teeth. I suspect this could be possibly bad breath related!?


Tomorrow my threads will be removed. So far everything's great.
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Today still no bad breath. I think I've won.

If you suffer from bad breath it might be your wisdom teeth. Let them get removed if you don't find another solution for your problem. Even if your doctors don't see a real necessity.

Tonsillectomy might also help a great deal to at least reduce your bad breath - even if your tonsils have been judged as healthy by several doctors.

You might want to try metronidazole. It can possibly have side-effects, so regard this thing as a last resort. Don't buy it from a shady online pharmacy - get a prescription by a real doctor. I have posted a link that surely will be helpful to convince your doctor.


In my case my ENT said she doesn't know what's the reason and she would like to help me but she doesn't know how. Therefore I demanded tonsillectomy in 2010 and metronidazole in 2012 - she said to both demands that I can have those things, but she had no idea whether it was going to be useful.


Don't give up. I was one of the cases the doctors couldn't find anything, but it wasn't that hard in the end.
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Congrats on being cured aues.

You can start living again! :)


I had my wisdom teeth out before I even had my tonsils out.. I don't have the run it and smell it oral BB. The only smelling I can make out from my oral cavity is when I sense that bitter taste in my mouth.. that acidic feeling, I can lick my wris and smell a vinegary, sour smell.
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Congrats aues. Hopefully this is a permanent cure, so keep us posted and let us know how you are doing.

I'm also interested to know how your life goes now that you are bb free. Enjoy it and know you are a much stronger person for getting through this obstacle.

Oh yea and 1 question. You say Metronidazole could possibly have helped cure your bb. I know it is an antibiotic. Do you know if it can cause risk of candida overgrowth like other antibiotics?
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HigherThoughts wrote:Oh yea and 1 question. You say Metronidazole could possibly have helped cure your bb. I know it is an antibiotic. Do you know if it can cause risk of candida overgrowth like other antibiotics?
Sorry, I don't know.
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Got an invoice from the doctor who removed my wisdom teeth recently which stated "histological examination of cystic tissue".

Therefore I asked for a copy of the result of this histological examination.

The document says (in German):

"I. Excidat Regio 38 (HE,BvG):
Zystisches Gewebestück von 1,8 cm Durchmesser.

Diagnose und Begutachung:
Follikuläre Zyste, Regio 38.

II. Excidat Regio 48 (HE, BvG):
Zystisches Gewebestück von 1 cm Durchmesser.

Diagnose und Begutachtung:
Follikuläre Zyste, Regio 48

Kein Anhalt für Malignität."


Partly translated into English:

"I. Excidat Regio 38 (HE,BvG):
Cystic tissue piece with 1,8 cm diameter.

Diagnosis an appraisal:
Folliculate cyst, Regio 38.

II. Excidat Regio 48 (HE, BvG):
Cystic tissue piece with 1,8 cm diameter.

Diagnosis and appraisal:
Folliculate cyst, Regio 48

No sign of malignity."
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Even tough every dentist said that my bad breath problem can't be possibly linked to my wisdom teeth I suppose they were wrong.

Special thanks to halitosisux - mainly because of
Looking at that xray and knowing first hand what partially erupted/unerupted teeth can do regarding breath, I'd say there is potential for these sunken teeth to be causing problems.
and
It would be nice if I could say trust your dentist when it comes to bad breath and your dentition - but trust me, you cant.

Also special thanks to aydinmur. And of course thanks to everybody else who posted.
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It's very satisfying to read through this thread : )
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If metronidazol helped you, this means your problem was gastro intestinal right? Did you have any other problems, except bb, before you were cured? I tend to fart quite a lot and have a 'abnormal' bo, that I can disguise with lemon juice, but the smell isn't like a healty person is supposed to smell.
congratz on being cured, I really hope this happens to me too
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merijn wrote:If metronidazol helped you, this means your problem was gastro intestinal right? Did you have any other problems, except bb, before you were cured? I tend to fart quite a lot and have a 'abnormal' bo, that I can disguise with lemon juice, but the smell isn't like a healty person is supposed to smell.
congratz on being cured, I really hope this happens to me too
I don't believe metronidazole cured my in the long run. I guess the wisdom teeth extraction really cured me. The only effect of metronidazole in my case seems to be permanent non-reversible nerve damage.

Nontheless if everything else is ruled out I'd recommend everyone to try metronidazole.

Had some minor digestion issues, nothing relevant I guess.
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Update: Still no bad breath.
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