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Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:20 am

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Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:06 pm

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meowkity1 · Post by **meowkity1** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:04 pm

I'm interested bt couldn't find anything on it except the wiki article

Shit4Breath · Post by **Shit4Breath** » Fri May 24, 2013 8:06 am

I wanted to put this post back on the top again because I think this is something we all should look into more closely, though not much is out there to work off of.

I guess we all pretty much know by now that this story is bullshit and NO rifaximin did NOTHING for my bb! I think my cause is due to a certain type of bacteria inside of me that is breaking down too much methanethiol turning it into dimethyl sulfide and this over-abundance is causing me to suffer from dimethylsulfidemia (the un-named metabolic condition). Thereby cause my body to release the over abundance of dimethyl sulfide (which is extremely toxic smelling) into my blood and my body is detoxing it through my lungs. Btw the largest detoxing organ is the skin so this could contribute to BO as well. Atleast that's the best way my lack of understanding can descibe it. I'm not science savvy at all but I looking into bloodborne or systematic halitosis and I think this is it for me. I typed in Google search engine 'how to get remove methanethiol dimethyl sulfide smell' and came across this article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2930168

Are there any science heads who understands this stuff more thoroughly that can shed alittle light on this. From what I gather from searching online Thiobacillus thioparus is a type of bacteria but don't no much else about it or if it is even safe. Can anyone add to this?

halitosisux · Post by **halitosisux** » Fri May 24, 2013 9:54 am

I don't know who it was, but someone on here had an OralChroma test and their readings for dimethyl sulfide were above normal. This is one of the gases the OralChroma machine checks for apparently. I don't know how valid this is to mention, but if you suspect dimethyl sulfide is behind your odour then it's worth getting an OralChroma test if you can get to one.

Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Fri May 24, 2013 1:51 pm

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Born To Suffer · Post by **Born To Suffer** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:21 am

Did you use to be an alcoholic? Dms is found in beer, wine!

ikageorgian · Post by **ikageorgian** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:15 pm

Stankie, did you draw attention to the last phrase of that youtube lecture on DMS,
"? Reminiscent of the so called systemic candidosis syndrome, purported to produce an odor described as musty,mousy or yeasty body odor/halitosis."
I'm quite sure, that eating habits and immune disorders are strongly related.

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Shit4Breath · Post by **Shit4Breath** » Sun May 26, 2013 11:02 pm

Alot of folks are sleeping on this being the cause for the majority of our extra oral cases. I wish alot more ppl would get involve in this discussion. A metabolic condition that produces too much dimethyl sulfide that enters into our blood stream and gets released through our lungs along with carbon dioxide which is a natural occurence. This is very plausible because personally I never understood how candida could cause bb when fungus itself doesn't have a terribly offensive odor (btw I do believe systematic candida is a problem for other issues such as allergies). Anyways, I digress dimethyl sulfide is a byproduct of the bacterial metabolism of methanethiol. I'm assuming an overgrowth of a certain bacteria that metabolizes the methanethiol maybe the case with me and I've been looking into it but like Stankie has mentioned our organs and other issues could be the cause of dimethylsulfidemia. I wish we could have a serious discussion about this once everyone gives it more consideration. Dr.Aydinmur has also stated that type 4 halitosis can be produced by blood gases.

Btw those who would classify their bb as toxic or an irritant should definitely join the discussion. If your bb or presence cause ppl to become bothered as if smelling a harsh chemical or toxin it could more than likely be this condition as dimethyl sulfide itself is extremely toxic and can irritate the eyes, sinuses, and skin.

deebo · Post by **deebo** » Mon May 27, 2013 1:25 am

did hear US researchers say there was only 1 case of DMSE to date ? I think it includes UK too . It sounds like its 1000s of time rarer than even TMAU . The positive thing is its another step to isolating the many pathways to chronic odor

sadmum · Post by **sadmum** » Mon May 27, 2013 4:31 am

Can DMSE be detected through a blood test? or is the OralChroma breath test the only available option?

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Mon May 27, 2013 4:53 am

Shit4Breath wrote:This is very plausible because personally I never understood how candida could cause bb when fungus itself doesn't have a terribly offensive odor (btw I do believe systematic candida is a problem for other issues such as allergies).

but vaginal candida/ fungal infection does have a smell = moldy cheese [sorry for being graphic]. I think it just depends on what type of BB you have. I would classify mines as Type 1 and its a sour type of smell, which is why I am testing out the candida theory for now.

halitosisux · Post by **halitosisux** » Mon May 27, 2013 7:01 am

I went swimming in a river once wearing a pair of shorts. I had nothing to get changed into afterwards and then had to walk a long distance wearing these damp shorts. By the time I got home I was quite sore in the groin area.

The next day I had a rash where it had been rubbing and I went to work as normal. I was only a young teen at the time and was too embarrassed to tell anyone or see a doctor, so I just hoped it would go away, which it did after about a week or so. It was intensely itchy and for that whole week I STUNK of fish. This wasn't a slight odour, I literally smelt like a rotting piece of salmon. If I walked out of a room or a car and then went back in it REEKED and driving in a car people would immediately say WOW what's that fishy smell?

I had no internet at that time, but today I can see that the rash I had was THRUSH. No white growth or spots just a seeping red rash.

I don't think it's only the fungus itself that creates the odour though, it's the entire flora of microorganisms going into a frenzy together, but no doubt it's the fungus that starts these things off and sustains it. So basically, I don't think fungal overgrowth itself smells of much, but when a part of the body tissue gets compromised by it then other microorganisms join in and then it can really start to smell.

Shit4Breath · Post by **Shit4Breath** » Mon May 27, 2013 4:57 pm

@Deebo- this condition is still pretty much unknown there are some doctors who still have no idea what tmau is and finding a testing facility or even specialist to diagnose it in some areas are nearly impossible. Even though tmau is pretty well documented still its knowledge bank of physicians and specialist is EXTREMELY limited...so can you imagine DMS. The unknown metabolic disorder is STILL being researched and unnamed after years of research now. There is still alot to be explained that's why in my humble opinion it is seemingly so rare. How do you diagnose the unclassifed?

@Stillhoping- You are right, I guess I was referring to my kind of bb but it could be in the cases of others.

@Sadmum-Have no idea, was hoping someone with alittle bit more knowledge of this would come forward and explain it a bit better.

@Halitosisux- You're right I definitely believe I had systematic candida which may have caused in imbalance which would allow bacteria to overpopulate.

Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon May 27, 2013 5:27 pm

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