amazing....abouth the glue, I think you should find another dentist...they use cement, not the glue for the crownsnightmare wrote:Its been about 8 months now and it works. Just a few things I have notice. If i swish it around with my head back so I am gargling down to my gag reflex valve I'm good for 24 - 72 hours depending what I eat or drink and if I add ph+ drops to liquids I drink. If I swish it around without my head looking up, where it doesn't make it to the gag reflex valve, then I won't make it 2 hours maybe less than one hour. For me the back of the throat is where these bugs are hiding. I have also found if I add ph+ drops to coffee or water, etc.and gargle after ever meal with baking soda, I buy more time. Last year I had 2 crowns just fall out (glue let go). Dentist said I needed to have the ph in my mouth tested, glue won't hold in extreme acidic conditions. I'm thinking silent re-flux. Another think, I hate gargling Beach down to the gag valve , but it work like a charm. No one taking a step back when I talk.
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nightmare wrote:Its been about 8 months now and it works. Just a few things I have notice. If i swish it around with my head back so I am gargling down to my gag reflex valve I'm good for 24 - 72 hours depending what I eat or drink and if I add ph+ drops to liquids I drink. If I swish it around without my head looking up, where it doesn't make it to the gag reflex valve, then I won't make it 2 hours maybe less than one hour. For me the back of the throat is where these bugs are hiding. I have also found if I add ph+ drops to coffee or water, etc.and gargle after ever meal with baking soda, I buy more time. Last year I had 2 crowns just fall out (glue let go). Dentist said I needed to have the ph in my mouth tested, glue won't hold in extreme acidic conditions. I'm thinking silent re-flux. Another think, I hate gargling Beach down to the gag valve , but it work like a charm. No one taking a step back when I talk.
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aloneinthis wrote:Is Hydrogen peroxide like bleach? how do you use it? do you mix it with water?Norman wrote:I use hydrogen peroxide and my bb vanishes for like 9-10 hours and after that it comes a little back.
my question is , if hydrogen peroxide or bleach works does that mean your porblem lies in your mouth or maybe throat ? and you can rule out all other possible causes???
or is there still any chance that the root of your bb is somewere else, like stomach or intensines and the bacteria come from there and build up in your mouth / tongue???
Its not like bleach you can buy it in wallmart 3% hydrogen peroxide. It helps me if I gargle with my head back letting the product go to my throat. If I do it this way I get maximum effect.
I never mix it with water tho it just doesnt work if I mix it with water
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Hi Norman,Norman wrote:
Its not like bleach you can buy it in wallmart 3% hydrogen peroxide. It helps me if I gargle with my head back letting the product go to my throat. If I do it this way I get maximum effect.
I never mix it with water tho it just doesnt work if I mix it with water
I have also been using Hydrogen Peroxide on and off with some success. I tip my head right back and gargle, making sure not to hunch up my shoulders and keep my throat relaxed so that it reache as far as possible.
How long have you been using it for?
I feel like every so often it stops working so I stop for a week or two and when I start again it works!
Thanks
Lifelong
Tonsils/adenoids removed
FESS surgery
Visited 3+ ENTs & 2 gastros.
Diagnosed w/ SIBO (hydrogen test)
Peroxide, metronidazole and Sodium Hypochlorite all worked for 2 weeks.
FODMAP, vegan and candida diet tried. Slight improvement.
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Lifelongsufferer wrote:Hi Norman,Norman wrote:
Its not like bleach you can buy it in wallmart 3% hydrogen peroxide. It helps me if I gargle with my head back letting the product go to my throat. If I do it this way I get maximum effect.
I never mix it with water tho it just doesnt work if I mix it with water
I have also been using Hydrogen Peroxide on and off with some success. I tip my head right back and gargle, making sure not to hunch up my shoulders and keep my throat relaxed so that it reache as far as possible.
How long have you been using it for?
I feel like every so often it stops working so I stop for a week or two and when I start again it works!
Thanks
Lifelong
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I’ve provided occasional updates to create a long-term record of the results. Next month, after 1 year of mouthwashing/gargling with diluted sodium hypochlorite, I’ll likely cease posting to this thread, as the long-term results have been shared. I will continue to use this method as long as it provides positive results.
Some additional details:
• I add 10 to 15 drops of ordinary chlorine bleach solution, to 20 to 30X tap water.
• The bleach solution, a generic, is the type intended for laundry use.
• The bleach is packaged as an aqueous (water) solution, at a concentration of 5.25wt% sodium hypochlorite.
• This mixed amount, i.e. the bleach solution diluted 20 to 30X with tap water, is a volume sufficient for one mouth-washing/gargling period, lasting 60 seconds.
• I use this solution, most-mornings, after brushing with ordinary toothpaste and gently, yet thoroughly, brushing my tongue with an old toothbrush having bristles cut to half their original length, using plain water.
• Throughout the 1 minute period of using the diluted bleach solution, I vigorously swish and gargle the solution to ensure full contact with my entire oral surface; and, each 10 to 15 seconds I tip my head upward, facing the ceiling to ensure the solution contacts the back of my mouth and throat as I gargle for a few seconds.
• I then spit out the used solution.
Note: In the past I’ve brushed my teeth, morning and night, using an electric toothbrush or using a manual toothbrush. For managing BB, I find that a manual toothbrush is much more effective. I now use the manual toothbrush exclusively.
I will soon request a blood test to have my immunoglobulin (Ig) levels measured. My theory is that my life-long contest with BB is due to a below-average concentration of one, or more, of a human’s Igs.
Good luck to all in finding an effective method that works best for your individual need.
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My normal mouth routine:
1. Mix Baking Soda with 3% hydrogen peroxide and make into paste. Coat them on the tongue and the teeths (whole mouth) for 10 mins and then scrap and brush them off. Normally i will be showering in that 10 mins. Benefits: Whiter teeth and pink tongue
2. Swirl and gargle with hydrogen peroxide for 5 mins. To reach the bacteria in the throat
3. Take 2 tablets of smartmouth mints which contain zinc and xylitol. Or you can replace the mint with pure xylitol sugar
Xylitol sugar cannot be broken down by bacteria thus not creating any sulfur gases which are the cause for badbreath. Xylitol also prevent bacteria from sticking to the wall of the mouth. Hopefully after a long term use, i am able to change my oral flora through natural selection.
My Diet Routine:
1. I will skip breakfast in the morning as i cant find any quick meal without carbs and sugars
2. Lunch, i will take meal like salad with chicken breast meats. Or anything without rice, noodle, bread or carbs/sugars
3. Dinner, i will eat as per normal (will try to cut out sugars in the near future) And supplement my sugar craving with xylitol sugars.
Benefit: I am getting slimmer and healthier with this diet regime.
I have just starte for a week, so far i am getting good result. But not totally bad breath free. If others have a similar routine, please share your experience and result. We can learn from each other.
Will try to update again in a month or 2 on the outcome. Cheers everyone and hang in there
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So happy for you Searching!!!searching wrote:This method, which I use most mornings, has enabled me to effectively manage my BB throughout the day, for the past 11 months.
I’ve provided occasional updates to create a long-term record of the results. Next month, after 1 year of mouthwashing/gargling with diluted sodium hypochlorite, I’ll likely cease posting to this thread, as the long-term results have been shared. I will continue to use this method as long as it provides positive results.
Some additional details:
• I add 10 to 15 drops of ordinary chlorine bleach solution, to 20 to 30X tap water.
• The bleach solution, a generic, is the type intended for laundry use.
• The bleach is packaged as an aqueous (water) solution, at a concentration of 5.25wt% sodium hypochlorite.
• This mixed amount, i.e. the bleach solution diluted 20 to 30X with tap water, is a volume sufficient for one mouth-washing/gargling period, lasting 60 seconds.
• I use this solution, most-mornings, after brushing with ordinary toothpaste and gently, yet thoroughly, brushing my tongue with an old toothbrush having bristles cut to half their original length, using plain water.
• Throughout the 1 minute period of using the diluted bleach solution, I vigorously swish and gargle the solution to ensure full contact with my entire oral surface; and, each 10 to 15 seconds I tip my head upward, facing the ceiling to ensure the solution contacts the back of my mouth and throat as I gargle for a few seconds.
• I then spit out the used solution.
Note: In the past I’ve brushed my teeth, morning and night, using an electric toothbrush or using a manual toothbrush. For managing BB, I find that a manual toothbrush is much more effective. I now use the manual toothbrush exclusively.
I will soon request a blood test to have my immunoglobulin (Ig) levels measured. My theory is that my life-long contest with BB is due to a below-average concentration of one, or more, of a human’s Igs.
Good luck to all in finding an effective method that works best for your individual need.
You are my favourite user of the forum by far, always nice to hear from you and your efforts and findings : )
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This is because antibiotics work in a very different way to bleach. Bleach will kill pretty much everything, but antibiotics work in a much more subtle way. Most antibiotics work by targeting specific proteins, such as ones in the cell wall, or those that help make other proteins. A population of bacteria will have variation in genes between one bug and the next and so some will survive. The bacteria that do survive are the ones with variations in their genes which let them cope against the drugs, and so these go on to divide and replace the ones killed by the antibiotics. Bleach is so utterly destructive that virtually nothing survives, so no 'resistance' genes get spread throughout the population.Most of the drugs we have are derived from a natural source, so bacteria have been locked in this 'arms race' for a very long time. Long before we started using these chemicals to fight off infection.
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As recommended by Searching, i only used it in the morning and able to last the whole full day. This not not something therabreath, hydrogen peroxide, smartmouth or any others able to achieve.
I strongly urge everyone to at least try it if you have exhausted all other options.
I have been using it for 1 week. Will report back in a month time.
Through online searching and found that resistance to this diluted bleach mouthwash is almost impossible
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Also my parents saw me using this method and told me I'm going to die I am still trying to explain to them how it works but yeah. OHHH by the way one more question. I've only found a flavoured lemon bleach called Ace it says it has 5% chlorine stuff. Is it good for this method? I've tried it, I don't have the bad taste anymore but I think I still get a few reactions.
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