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Can anyone confirm the H. Pylori treatment

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Post by jc »

I didn`t take the treatment because of the h.pylori but I took it hoping that it would kill whatever`s causing my bb. I think the other guys feel the same way too.


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I already know that, that`s why I only took the 2meds out of the complete3 but I can never be sure if I really have h.pylori. I feel that the other guys know it too but the chance of being cured from the h.pylori treatment is really too tempting. If I ever get cured from this I don`t think I could say that it was the h.pylori that caused my bb. I really want to know what species caused this but I don`t have the resources to do this.
well a good way to find out is getting a endoscopy when they do that some how they scrab the inside of ur stomack just a lil bit and they analayze whether u have it or not i dont really remember the whole process of the endoscopy cuz i was half sedated i wasnt totally sleep just a lil bit it takes 1 minutes and u are redy to go. I paid 800 dollars for this here in the us no insurence, self pay but if you have insurence u can get it for free almost
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I already had two endoscopies but I`m not sure if they got a sample from my stomach. I clearly remember reading a medical report saying that I`m negative from h.pylori so the doctor just gave me nexium for acid reflux. I think they tested my blood for h. pylori before the endoscopy & it came out negative.
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THEN IS PROBABLY NOT H PILORY, THEY DID THE SAME WITH ME ONCE THEY KNEW I DIDNT HAVE H PILORY THEY GAVE ME NEXIUM FOR MY ACID REFULX THAT I STOPPED TAKING AFTER A WEAK FOR 2 REASONS ONE BECAUSE WAS THE FIRST MEDICINE I GOT WHEN I STARTED WITH ALL THIS EVEN BEFORE THE PREVACID AND THE PREVPAC AND IT DIDNT WORK AND SECOND CUZ IRONICLY IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE THROWING UP ALL THE TIME ALSO IT DIDNT MAKE ANY DIFERENCE ON MY BAD BREATH AND MY STOMACH FELT BETTER WHEN I STOPPED TAKING IT
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I started taking two capsules of chlorophyll yesterday along with spirulina & acidophilus & I didn`t get any reaction last night. The same goes for this morning. I think that my breath is 90% better now but I don`t know if it`s the chlorophyll or the combination of the 3 that made this happen. I`ve tried chlorophyll many years ago but I don`t know if it contained the right amount. I also feel that my bb is in a weakened stage right now after the treatment. I sure hope that this is the cure that I`ve been praying for.
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I think that my breath is 90% better now
well then im really happy for you and i wish you the best of the lucks ;)
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Post by jc »

Thanks, I still have bb but at least I`m experiencing hours of relief. I`ll keep on hoping that a definite cure will be found soon so all of us could have a better chance at life.
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i think it is very important that during and after this treatment for h. pylori (if you are planning on doing it) that you introduce BLIS k12 probiotics. We know they havent worked for us before, but i think thats because of the fact we had such high levels of bad bacteria, meaning they couldnt colonise. I have been using K12 probiotics for well over a year, but it was only after this Hp7 treatment that i felt the pro-bacteria had a good chance to colonise. This is why i believe i remain bb free.

Im not trying to advertise so dont start with that shit, but reading up on the studies done about Streptococcus salivarius K12, it makes a lot of sense to use it after antibiotics. In these studies they even admit that only 8 out of 13 people were helped by the probiotics. They dont lie and say it helps everyone. I think if the remaining 5 people who still have halitosis after taking K12 probiotics did the h. pylori treatment, and THEN used the probiotics, this would be helpful to them. It was for me.

heres the article im talking about, http://www.therabreath.com/probiotics_science.asp disregard all the therabreath stuff. There are a few companies out there that sell it so look around, and if you are doing the h. pylori treatment, continue the K12 probiotic treatment for at least a month during and afterward.
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Post by hungrygirl »

austuser

Do you drink alcohol when using the K12?

I have done the 1 month program 3 times, 1st had no alcohol at all, the 2nd an 3rd time i had maybe 1 drink in the whole month, but once i finished the course i did drink again.

I had some succes while i was on it but no improvement once i finished.

So was just wondereing if it was the alcohol that stopped it from working?
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hungrygirl wrote:So was just wondereing if it was the alcohol that stopped it from working?
No, it was Katz that stopped it from working :P This isn't supposed to last or Katz would be bankrupt already.
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you're not supposed to drink or use alcohol products because it kills bacteria. I always drink and sometimes it affects it, most of the time it doesnt.

I can only say what it does for me, because i dont know any of you or how bad your problem is.

I have been on K12 probiotics for over a year. They say most people only need it for a month or two, but it didnt work for me after that time. I'm curious to see what would happen if i stop now that i have done the h. pylori treatment. But i really just want to keep at it as my breath seems to be fine. I was at a pub all day today (sunday) and now it has been 12 hours since brushing. I have a very slight sour taste but nothing like it used to be in this situation. My tongue is moist and smooth, as opposed to dry and rough.

if it doesnt work for you, then dont use it. No one is putting a gun to your head or shoving it down your throat.

No pun intended.
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So far triple therapy working for me

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As a long-time sufferer I have followed these postings with great interest and have decided to post my story if it can help others. Much like other posters, I have searched for causes and strategies to rid myself of the scourge. In my 43 years of life I have been to plenty of doctors, dentists, health food stores, tried every product on the market, read thousands of books and have only recently come across the possible link between the H. Pylori bacteria and BB. The doctors who have listened and looked for a cause have sent me off for barium meal chest scans, sinus and post-nasal drip tests. I have also had my tonsils out. Dentists likwise lectured me on leaking fillings. The most I ever got from a doctor was that I had a lazy Oesophageal sphincter which is a muscle flap found at the bottom of the oesophagus and the entry to the stomach and from the dentists, very deep holes in my teeth and now including 5 crowns. Like many of you, I have always fastidiously cleaned my teeth, scraped my tongue, flossed regularly etc. but to no avail! The teeth which have survived dental invasions are very strong. I have never had gum disease. But I did have BB!

As a child in the 60s, I suffered from bronchitis and was regulrarly given tetracycline and have grey/yellow stains on my teeth. I suspect my problems started then. I grew out of bronchitis (or what was later termed asthma) and haven't taken antibiotics for most of my adult life. The only time I have experienced gastritis reflux was when I became pregnant, but I think this had more to do with the pregnancy and pressure on the organs rather than a bacteria in my gut. But who knows? So to my knowledge I never suffered from any peptic ulcer complaints.

When under stress, my symptoms got worse and I knew that if I was to have a stressful day at work I would take carbon tablets, drink/eat parsley steeped in hot water and always have gum and mints in my bag.

I suppose I might be one of the lucky ones because I found a partner who loved me for who I was. He would always say stop fussing over your teeth; it's not your teeth; it's coming from your stomach and lungs. So I started experimenting with different foods. I found that I was more smelly after cheese but after eating white bread or a roll or even sweet bun the smell would go away for a short while. I was lucky, I'd always been thin, but I soon found out that I couldn't keep stuffing my face with processed carbs as i'd start piling on the weight. So I changed to rye bread, which was better for me healthwise, but not as effective for absorbing the toxins. Although I liked coffee, I always risked smelling afterwards. I tried every herbal remedy in the book except for chlorophillin which i have discovered on this site and am yet to try but am hoping that i will not need it - fingers crossed.

After reading about the triple therapy, I decided to give it a try. I haven't undertaken any tests to determine if I have the H. Pylori bacteria or not but could not wait for the test to be done. I'm on daily doses of 2x 500g Amoxil; 1 x 500g Fasigyn and 1x20mg omeprazole for 7 days. Today is Day 4. On day 1 I could feel my breath becoming less smelly. It wasn't until the following morning that I leapt out of bed incredulous that I had awoken with a different taste in my mouth! I never thought it was possible. For the first time I was not smelly! Day 4 and I still can't believe it! It's like a dream come true. My husband can't believe the almost instant change and I am still pinching myself.

I know that a 100% cure rate is not possible and that the voracious bacteria might come back and start the urea producing cycle all over again. I'm determined to see this treatment through another 3 days and will keep posting results. To date, I haven't experienced any side-effects apart from darkened stools and a bit of wind. I'm drinking lots of water to flush the toxins out of my system. I'm also on 5mg warfarin a day as I came down with a blood clot in my leg after a long flight 9 months ago. :lol:
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tetracycline! the start of halitosis?

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Just read the link that the previous poster gave and the jigsaw pieces for my bad breath seem to be coming together. I suspected Tetracycline and is looks as if I'm not the only one. See what Dr. Harold Katz has to say. Haven't used his products but am now wondering if I need to look at this therapy once I come off the antibiotics. I'm wondering if it's another fad though...


Loss of these harmless bacteria following use of antibiotics may allow pathogenic bacteria to invade the human body. [This is another bit of evidence that supports my call to end the use of antibiotics such as Tetracycline and Minocycline for acne. A large percentage of patients at my clinics reported use of these antibiotics during their teens and now have chronic halitosis.]
http://www.therabreath.com/probiotics_science.asp

Anybody researched this?
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Post by noptical »

I always take what I read on katz sites (there are tens of them if not hundreds) with a pinch of salt. He can do anything to make customer, change science, history and everything else.
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austuser

Update please :)
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