lingual tonsils

[sean1979]

So I've had my palatine tonsils and adenoid removed. It has helped...don't ask me how, but I just know it has. I still have bad breath though, and I'm wondering if lingual tonsils are causing the "left over" bad breath. My ENT told me there are too many of them to be removed, but I believe he just didn't want to remove them because it sounds like a very difficult procedure. I think that sensation of something being stuck in my throat also comes from lingual tonsils being pushed against my throat.

Have any of you had your lingual tonsils removed on the back of your tongue? I tried searching for a specialist who does this, but I could not find any. Just found out it's a loathsome surgery by doctors. Also, I tried searching for anyone who has had lingual tonsillectomy to cure bad breath but I could not find any. I just came across people asking the same thing on message boards. So, has anyone have their lingual tonsils out???

[halitosisux]

Hi Sean,

Im wondering about lingual tonsils too, having also had my palatine tonsils removed. That whole area there seems to be the epicentre and it would make sense. But it is also the area with the least abrasion, and a perfect home for germs.
Hard to know if these tonsils themselves are capable of producing or being responsible for producing odour. You would think if they could, and were a cause, it would be hailed as the breakthrough, but it isnt.

[iva]

So I've had my palatine tonsils and adenoid removed. It has helped...don't ask me how, but I just know it has. I still have bad breath though, and I'm wondering if lingual tonsils are causing the "left over" bad breath. My ENT told me there are too many of them to be removed, but I believe he just didn't want to remove them because it sounds like a very difficult procedure. I think that sensation of something being stuck in my throat also comes from lingual tonsils being pushed against my throat.

Have any of you had your lingual tonsils removed on the back of your tongue? I tried searching for a specialist who does this, but I could not find any. Just found out it's a loathsome surgery by doctors. Also, I tried searching for anyone who has had lingual tonsillectomy to cure bad breath but I could not find any. I just came across people asking the same thing on message boards. So, has anyone have their lingual tonsils out???

I also think the lingual tonsils is to blame for the bad breath, but obviously its a difficult operation and no doctor will perform it only on the basis of BB complaints, perhaps they would do it if the lingual tonsils is swallen and you can`t breathe..

[Snobuni]

I've had my palantine tonsils removed, and have often wondered about lingual tonsils.

Just to clarify things, the lingual tonsils are along the side of the tongue right? I've recently noticed a lump on the far back of my tongue, just before my eosophagus. It's about the size of a large pea, is fleshy and not sore. I'm just wondering if this is normal tongue physiology. Does anybody else have one of these? Is it as lingual tonsil or maybe an infected taste bud or something?

I've been scaring myself by googling tongue lumps and finding it can be anything from a swollen taste bud to cancer!!!

Well, I'm going to see if it gets any bigger, I've an ENT appointment in January so I suppose I can ask about it then. I really don't want to go to my GP about it as I'm trying to sort out my bb and don't want to start going on about something else, particularly if it turns out to be something that should be there anyway...

[halitosisux]

Hi Snobuni,
i've never dared look that far back lol, but i'll stick some batteries in my torch after and see what i can find back there. Just joking tho, i've seen those V shaped taste buds but nothing that looks as unusual as u describe. How much of a pea-sized object is protruding? If this was some sort of abnormal growth i would have thought you'd become conscious of the sensation alone, let alone any pain, so u have probably always had this. If i find anything i'll let u know asap.
I really need to learn more about lingual tonsils. If they are anything like palatine tonsils structurally and functionally then they need some serious consideration with regards to BB.
There's another flappy thing back there too, i think its called an epiglottis. I wonder if its something to do with it?

[TeamZissou]

I don't think the lingual tonsils are the problem. They may be a minor contributor, but their location and size doesn't make them a likely primary cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajbcJiYh ... re=related

Check out this video of a trans-nasal endoscopy. Warning, it is pretty graphic, if you find this sort of thing gross.

Look at all of the tissue and pockets around the larynx and vocal chords. My guess is the post nasal drip collects and sits in this area, and on the walls of the throat as it drips down. This is possibly where bacteria have a chance to feed on it.

Not saying the lingual tonsils play no role, but my guess is it isn't the major cause.

[halitosisux]

I think i'll eat my chinese takeaway first before i view that video.

[TeamZissou]

Haha, good idea.

[halitosisux]

damn i'd love to probe her lol

[Larc400]

This has been discussed 200 times before; there's even a sticky about Lingual Tonsils

To clarify: the lingual tonsils are the larger bumps furthest back on the tongue base. I find it very likely that blasting them would make it difficult for bacteria to survive in that area; and that area certainly stinks in my case

Lasering has been done! But it's rare:

http://www.halitos.se/pdf/CO2Laser.pdf

1st guy who finds a surgeon willing to do it gets a Reward

[halitosisux]

Hi Larc400,

Do tongue papillae not extend mostly all the way down to the tongue base? Is this stench we all seem to have back there not simply natural bacterial activity essential for digestive purposes, which for some reason smells so strong on us that others can perceive it in our breath?
Does anyone have any idea how or why this might relate to lingual tonsils? How will blasting them make it harder for bacteria to survive in an area that is supposed to be festering with bacteria?

[sean1979]

To my understanding lingual tonsils do have crypts and could enlarge due to bacteria so I don't see why it wouldn't help our condition. Problem is I can't find a surgeon who would perform this surgery and I haven't found anyone suffering bb who has got their lingual tonsils out.

[Larc400]

The linguals are behind the 'V' shape on the tongue base:




As for finding a surgeon.... the Danish guys who wrote that article I linked to above seem to have done laser surgery on the lingual tonsils

[halitosisux]

I have read somewhere that these crypts are not very deep or numerous and unlikely to make a lot of difference. We all need to find out as much info on this as possible. Maybe for those who feel like there's something stuck in the throat, it could be these that are inflamed or chronically infected and possibly their cause of BB?

[sean1979]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArBG3FRAH5s

This is interesting. You could see the yellow pus around the throat and lingual tonsils. I need to ask my doctor if I can see my throat.