Hi all,
I have noticed for months now that the forum seems to be losing its appeal to those who genuinely have bad breath.
Some how the forum just has not been as helpful and supportive to newcomers or other member who have bad breath.
There are a number of thing s That I have noticed and would like to voice.
Firstly, the chatroom. - it has become a place to flirt with certain individuals of late. No real exchange of bad breath ideas seem to be going on there.
People flirt with each other all day long, they use swear language etc. All, of which I think would turn off genuine bb sufferers who are looking for a cure. I think its all well and good to have a good laugh once in a while in private but to opening flirt and use swear words in the chatroom I think does not give the impression of people who are eagerly or genuinely looking for a bb cure.
Secondly, I notice that some people do not feel comforatble talking or even going into the chatroom. Possibly, who knows, they might be afraid to go into the cahtroom from being booted out by others. My brief now termintated job as a moderator i believe made me realise that booting people from the chatroom only made them feel uncomfortable and alienated. If you kick someone they wont want to go back there again. So we need to let people feel comfortable in the chatroom and then they will come back again.
Thirdly, I noticed that some people tend to get angry and argue with others if they even hint a word of disagreement. The point is we are no doctor. No one on this site is an actual doctor. So, we need to allow people to share their points and each one should try helping the other. We can share our ideas and diasgree with each other without it getting into an heated argument. If more people could come forward and share their ideas abouts bb and it doesnt matter if they are different share then just the same.
If we are going to get anywhere closer to a cure we need to allow people to share ideas freely. And people need to come out and speak more as well. We need to speak up people.
if other people like scientist are going to take us seriously or lets say we want to start a petiton well if they ever read some of the things in the chatroom or forum - i.e. foul language, flirts etc. then they wouldnt really take us seriously.
Now my question to members? Do you think the forum is losing its appeal to those with genuine bad breath?
Please post your comments and suggestions on how we can improve the site and make it more supportive to genuine bad breath sufferers?
Thanks
Drastic
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forum losing appeal to those with genuine bad breath?
Drastic,
The chatroom is there for people to offer support to each other and to be sociable, a lot of us get little opportunity to socialise and this is a place to create friendships, offer and receive emotional support and yes, dare I say it, have fun!
Of course, we also discuss the more serious implications bb has on our lives and the different things we've tried to manage our bb, and this is important too.
I think censoring what is discussed in the chatroom is a very efficient way of putting a lot of people off discussing their problems and feelings and getting one to one contact with others who are sharing this condition and all the stress and unhappiness that accompanies it.
As for the swearing, if you personally find this offensive then I'm sorry, but equally I find the large exerts of the Koran quoted by Wynasha (?) highly offensive, more so than any swear words, and would appreciate this sort of thing being kept out of the chatroom. However, as the chatroom is an area for 'free thinkers', it is her right to write whatever she likes whether I approve of it or not.
And as for the flirting...maybe you should set the example and stop flirting with other members and then others will stop too...Although, again, personally I think people should be allowed to discuss anything they want in the chatroom, but then maybe it's just me who believes in free speech....
The chatroom is there for people to offer support to each other and to be sociable, a lot of us get little opportunity to socialise and this is a place to create friendships, offer and receive emotional support and yes, dare I say it, have fun!
Of course, we also discuss the more serious implications bb has on our lives and the different things we've tried to manage our bb, and this is important too.
I think censoring what is discussed in the chatroom is a very efficient way of putting a lot of people off discussing their problems and feelings and getting one to one contact with others who are sharing this condition and all the stress and unhappiness that accompanies it.
As for the swearing, if you personally find this offensive then I'm sorry, but equally I find the large exerts of the Koran quoted by Wynasha (?) highly offensive, more so than any swear words, and would appreciate this sort of thing being kept out of the chatroom. However, as the chatroom is an area for 'free thinkers', it is her right to write whatever she likes whether I approve of it or not.
And as for the flirting...maybe you should set the example and stop flirting with other members and then others will stop too...Although, again, personally I think people should be allowed to discuss anything they want in the chatroom, but then maybe it's just me who believes in free speech....
Snobuni,
I would like to clear one thing up. I do not flirt in the chatroom. All the time I have been in the chatroom I have had to redirect people who wanted to flirt and remind them what the forum is about finding a cure for bad breath.
So, please have all your facts before you accuse someone of flirting.
You must have me confused with yourself.
I know you like flirting infact you seem to find it fun.
Snobuni wrote:
No one is trying to censor the chatroom. Socialise, talk to people. But all the flirting seems to be distracting is from working hard for a cure.
My point is simply openly flirting in the chatroom doesnt seem to be getting the forum anywhere closer to a cure. After all isnt that why we are here to get cured. Oh no wait,
some of us are here just to flirt.
So, maybe instead of flirting with people who are already cured, we could try to put our heads together and find a solution to our bad breath.
Its seems to be far too easy to get distracted by all the flirting with people who are already cured. Why not put our energy to better use. And do more research and publish those research for bad breath.
the forum used to be filled with ideas and research now the quality has gone down.
Flirting will get us nowhere Snobuni.
Yes snobuni I also believe in free speech, with that said i am free to voice my opinion too.
To be honest this forum seems to turning into more of a flirting club by you know who and less of a resource for new ideas on bad breath.
maybe we need to be doing more research and bring in new ideas or are people not that affected genuinely by bad breath but just come here for the flirting.
Thats my opinion. You have your opinion. lets agree to disagree.
Drastic
I would like to clear one thing up. I do not flirt in the chatroom. All the time I have been in the chatroom I have had to redirect people who wanted to flirt and remind them what the forum is about finding a cure for bad breath.
So, please have all your facts before you accuse someone of flirting.
You must have me confused with yourself.
I know you like flirting infact you seem to find it fun.
Snobuni wrote:
....dare I say it, have fun!
No one is trying to censor the chatroom. Socialise, talk to people. But all the flirting seems to be distracting is from working hard for a cure.
My point is simply openly flirting in the chatroom doesnt seem to be getting the forum anywhere closer to a cure. After all isnt that why we are here to get cured. Oh no wait,
some of us are here just to flirt.So, maybe instead of flirting with people who are already cured, we could try to put our heads together and find a solution to our bad breath.
Its seems to be far too easy to get distracted by all the flirting with people who are already cured. Why not put our energy to better use. And do more research and publish those research for bad breath.
the forum used to be filled with ideas and research now the quality has gone down.
Flirting will get us nowhere Snobuni.
Yes snobuni I also believe in free speech, with that said i am free to voice my opinion too.
To be honest this forum seems to turning into more of a flirting club by you know who and less of a resource for new ideas on bad breath.
maybe we need to be doing more research and bring in new ideas or are people not that affected genuinely by bad breath but just come here for the flirting.
Thats my opinion. You have your opinion. lets agree to disagree.
Drastic
Drastic,
I Totally agree with you on this issue, infact some members were so rude, disrespectful, and intolerant of new ideas about bb that I sometimes felt like this site was only to distract innocent sufferers from finding the cure/make them spend more money on things that have been proven to not work, because no one stopped them from being that way and the rest of the members would follow them/do the most dangerouse things to themselves.
we know that ppl think different kinds of symptoms are causing their bb, so the only logical way to not have any kind of disagreement is to have different sections so that we can only talk about/hear what we want to hear. as I mentioned on another topic, the most common symptoms are acid/silent reflux, PND, Oral area(wisdom teeth/gums/tongue/ etc... if we make these sections we might get better results from the time we spend here.
Snoubi,
You are contradicting youself in ur post. On one had you are saying that it is ok to talk freely/ and making drastic look bad for even bringing up this issue/ on the other hand you are telling me that I shouldn't have posted a few lines of Quran to answer something I found very discouraging/inappropriate.
Yes, someone had written "GOD IS DEAD". I don't know about you, but every single day is like hell to me, and the only thing that has kept me alive is the fact that there is God/he exists.
I personally believe that anyone with true faith in god (no matter what religion christian, hindu or whatever) would also respect his creatures/and be patient and loving. i'm sorry if you found it offensive in any way, but it was a proof of gods existence/ and a hope for the hopeless when it said "the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursi ]"
I Totally agree with you on this issue, infact some members were so rude, disrespectful, and intolerant of new ideas about bb that I sometimes felt like this site was only to distract innocent sufferers from finding the cure/make them spend more money on things that have been proven to not work, because no one stopped them from being that way and the rest of the members would follow them/do the most dangerouse things to themselves.
we know that ppl think different kinds of symptoms are causing their bb, so the only logical way to not have any kind of disagreement is to have different sections so that we can only talk about/hear what we want to hear. as I mentioned on another topic, the most common symptoms are acid/silent reflux, PND, Oral area(wisdom teeth/gums/tongue/ etc... if we make these sections we might get better results from the time we spend here.
Snoubi,
You are contradicting youself in ur post. On one had you are saying that it is ok to talk freely/ and making drastic look bad for even bringing up this issue/ on the other hand you are telling me that I shouldn't have posted a few lines of Quran to answer something I found very discouraging/inappropriate.
Yes, someone had written "GOD IS DEAD". I don't know about you, but every single day is like hell to me, and the only thing that has kept me alive is the fact that there is God/he exists.
I personally believe that anyone with true faith in god (no matter what religion christian, hindu or whatever) would also respect his creatures/and be patient and loving. i'm sorry if you found it offensive in any way, but it was a proof of gods existence/ and a hope for the hopeless when it said "the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursi ]"
Hi Wynasha,
Thanks for your support. I agree with you about having separate sections like wisdoms, or acid reflux/LPR, PND, etc. So people with these issues could post their ideas freely. That sounds like a good idea.
It about time we put our heads together and try to push forward for a cure.
Share ideas, and bring new ideas in. We are all in this and we need to progress to find the cure.
Drastic
Thanks for your support. I agree with you about having separate sections like wisdoms, or acid reflux/LPR, PND, etc. So people with these issues could post their ideas freely. That sounds like a good idea.
It about time we put our heads together and try to push forward for a cure.
Share ideas, and bring new ideas in. We are all in this and we need to progress to find the cure.
Drastic
Drastic,
I find it hypocritical that you accuse me of flirting, but deny participating yourself...and yes, by god, it IS fun!! And believe me, if there's one thing we all need, to deal with this condition everyday, it's a bit of fun!!
Wynasha,
If you go back and read my original posting, you'll see that I never suggested that you shouldn't have posted exerts of religious text in the chatroom, what I actually said was I found it offensive. Just to reiterate what I said earlier, just because I find something offensive, this doesn't mean I beleive it should be censored, unlike yourself and Drastic who believe beliefs other than your own should not be permitted.
Look, we're all in the same boat here, we all have a chronic problem which has systematically destroyed our lives bit by bit. I hope to find an answer to this problem as much as anyone else, so why don't we close this thread as it's unlikely to contibute anything positive to the discussion, treatment and management of our bb.
I find it hypocritical that you accuse me of flirting, but deny participating yourself...and yes, by god, it IS fun!! And believe me, if there's one thing we all need, to deal with this condition everyday, it's a bit of fun!!
Wynasha,
If you go back and read my original posting, you'll see that I never suggested that you shouldn't have posted exerts of religious text in the chatroom, what I actually said was I found it offensive. Just to reiterate what I said earlier, just because I find something offensive, this doesn't mean I beleive it should be censored, unlike yourself and Drastic who believe beliefs other than your own should not be permitted.
Look, we're all in the same boat here, we all have a chronic problem which has systematically destroyed our lives bit by bit. I hope to find an answer to this problem as much as anyone else, so why don't we close this thread as it's unlikely to contibute anything positive to the discussion, treatment and management of our bb.
Snoubi,Snobuni wrote:Drastic,
unlike yourself and Drastic who believe beliefs other than your own should not be permitted.
why don't we close this thread as it's unlikely to contibute anything positive to the discussion, treatment and management of our bb.
about the first line please go back and read what I wrote, then read ur post
about the second line, THIS is one of the biggest/hardest steps towards our cure. Guyz, this is the only way to find what we r looking for. and Snoubi, if u really like flirting,
why don't u go flirt in another chat room, its not like they can smell ur bb there . LMAO,
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Snobuni,
You admitted you like flirting in your post. So, dont be shocked by me confirming that you do. I simply stated a fact.
You have resorted to calling me hypocritical when you are one of the biggest hypocrite of them all.
You said in your last post you dont believe in censorship:
snobuni wrote:
yet you seem to want to close this thread and censor my ideas.
Now how hypocritical is that. : 
snobuni wrote:
I suppose you would love this thread to be closed so you cold get back to all that flirting.
Drastic
You admitted you like flirting in your post. So, dont be shocked by me confirming that you do. I simply stated a fact.
You have resorted to calling me hypocritical when you are one of the biggest hypocrite of them all.
You said in your last post you dont believe in censorship:
snobuni wrote:
Just to reiterate what I said earlier, just because I find something offensive, this doesn't mean I beleive it should be censored
yet you seem to want to close this thread and censor my ideas.
Now how hypocritical is that.
: snobuni wrote:
Oh so I suppose flirting will more likely contribute anything positive to the discussion, treatment and management of our bbso why don't we close this thread as it's unlikely to contibute anything positive to the discussion, treatment and management of our bb.
I suppose you would love this thread to be closed so you cold get back to all that flirting.
Drastic
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Drastic,
This has all come about because you suddenly became paranoid that people werent talking to you which was absolutely not true, but nevertheless you have now decided to betray the people who have genuinely supported you and advised you during these really dark times, by dredging up anything you believe to be negative about the experience of being on here and the socialising aspects the chat window has opened up since it started, which i might add you are as guilty as anyone on here with your own swearing and flirting and whatever other hypocritical nonsense you mentioned.
Yes this site is about working together to find cures for BB, but that surely doesnt mean we have to be constantly as serious as you are, which everyone seems to generally agree is so depressing and draining. Even the forum has sections like anger/nonsense/fun/venting because they are PART of the whole process of working together.
You are blinded by your own selfishness and your eagerness that you'd trample over anyone to get what you want, and that's precisely what you are now doing to the people who actually DID care about you.
It's thanks to the genuine friendship we all felt we had and communicated so effectively together that so much progress has been made AND YOU KNOW IT, yet look at what you have implied.
So just go to hell with your jealous bullshit.
This has all come about because you suddenly became paranoid that people werent talking to you which was absolutely not true, but nevertheless you have now decided to betray the people who have genuinely supported you and advised you during these really dark times, by dredging up anything you believe to be negative about the experience of being on here and the socialising aspects the chat window has opened up since it started, which i might add you are as guilty as anyone on here with your own swearing and flirting and whatever other hypocritical nonsense you mentioned.
Yes this site is about working together to find cures for BB, but that surely doesnt mean we have to be constantly as serious as you are, which everyone seems to generally agree is so depressing and draining. Even the forum has sections like anger/nonsense/fun/venting because they are PART of the whole process of working together.
You are blinded by your own selfishness and your eagerness that you'd trample over anyone to get what you want, and that's precisely what you are now doing to the people who actually DID care about you.
It's thanks to the genuine friendship we all felt we had and communicated so effectively together that so much progress has been made AND YOU KNOW IT, yet look at what you have implied.
So just go to hell with your jealous bullshit.
Drastic,
For some reason, known only to yourself, you seem to have deceided to start a personal vendetta against myself. I find it odd how you've suddenly become quite so vitriolic considering how much support we offered to each other over the past few months. As you've mentioned previously, we need to be concentrating more on managing our bb both physiologically and psychologically, and continuing this thread only detracts from this process, and seems a waste of both mine and your own time. As it's obvious that you have a problem with me and me alone, perhaps it would be more constructive to discuss your problems in a more appropriate place, in the chatroom for example or via email, as I don't think posting repeatedly about this 'topic' is useful for anybody else other than yourself.
You asked in your original post for people to post their opinions about the chatroom/forum, and as far as I'm concerned I've done this in my previous posts, and see very little progression to be made by reiterating those same points over and over, or by discussing who flirts with whom more often in the chatroom (btw, have you sent similar posts or pms to every person who ever flirted in the chatroom? Perhaps this may keep you busy over the next few days, just a suggestion).
Well girls, as I said, there's little else to be said on the subjects as far as I'm concerned and I'll not be continuing this little tete a tete, as fascinating as it is...but feel free to discuss this at great length amongst yourselves...although it strikes me that you both could be using your time in much better ways...perhaps concentrating on how to improve your bb? Again, just a suggestion.
For some reason, known only to yourself, you seem to have deceided to start a personal vendetta against myself. I find it odd how you've suddenly become quite so vitriolic considering how much support we offered to each other over the past few months. As you've mentioned previously, we need to be concentrating more on managing our bb both physiologically and psychologically, and continuing this thread only detracts from this process, and seems a waste of both mine and your own time. As it's obvious that you have a problem with me and me alone, perhaps it would be more constructive to discuss your problems in a more appropriate place, in the chatroom for example or via email, as I don't think posting repeatedly about this 'topic' is useful for anybody else other than yourself.
You asked in your original post for people to post their opinions about the chatroom/forum, and as far as I'm concerned I've done this in my previous posts, and see very little progression to be made by reiterating those same points over and over, or by discussing who flirts with whom more often in the chatroom (btw, have you sent similar posts or pms to every person who ever flirted in the chatroom? Perhaps this may keep you busy over the next few days, just a suggestion).
Well girls, as I said, there's little else to be said on the subjects as far as I'm concerned and I'll not be continuing this little tete a tete, as fascinating as it is...but feel free to discuss this at great length amongst yourselves...although it strikes me that you both could be using your time in much better ways...perhaps concentrating on how to improve your bb? Again, just a suggestion.
Halitosisux,
Your statements seem quite childish and immature.
You obviously cannot have a decent adult conversation where you disagree with other people in a civilised manner without resorting to verbal abuse.
Because I have a different opnion from you doesnt meant you have the right to verbally abuse me or anyone on this site
and tell me things like :
Halitosisux said:
I am an adult I know better so I wont go down to your level. All I can say is take your own advice Halitosisux.
Halitosisux, you seem quite angry because I spoke out about all the flirting. Flirt all you want it seems to be the only thing you enjoy from this site. No-one is stopping people from having a bit of fun in the chatroom or on the site.
I simply stated a fact that all that the flirting openly seems to be distracting people from the true search for a cure.
Tough luck if you dont like the truth.
Your entire response seems to be filled with anger and just proved that you do not like other people to voice their opinion if it is different from yours.
If you are threatened by me having an opinion get over it. Try to be an adult about it.
Drastic[/quote]
Your statements seem quite childish and immature.
You obviously cannot have a decent adult conversation where you disagree with other people in a civilised manner without resorting to verbal abuse.
Because I have a different opnion from you doesnt meant you have the right to verbally abuse me or anyone on this site
and tell me things like :
Halitosisux said:
So just go to hell with your jealous bullshit.
I am an adult I know better so I wont go down to your level. All I can say is take your own advice Halitosisux.
Halitosisux, you seem quite angry because I spoke out about all the flirting. Flirt all you want it seems to be the only thing you enjoy from this site. No-one is stopping people from having a bit of fun in the chatroom or on the site.
I simply stated a fact that all that the flirting openly seems to be distracting people from the true search for a cure.
Tough luck if you dont like the truth.
Your entire response seems to be filled with anger and just proved that you do not like other people to voice their opinion if it is different from yours.
If you are threatened by me having an opinion get over it. Try to be an adult about it.
Drastic[/quote]
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Snobuni wrote:
I simply stated a fact about all the flirting distracting people from researching cures etc. I didnot name any names when I posted that so much flirting was going on in the chatroom and less research etc. Infact, you later volunteered yourself as an example of someone who loved flirting.
Your posts have shown that you have a personal vendetta.](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")
Now I dont want to keep you too busy snobuni because I know you have a busy day ahead of yourself with that flirting.
snobuni wrote:
Drastic
No one is starting to vendetta against you. No one has anything against you snobuni.For some reason, known only to yourself, you seem to have deceided to start a personal vendetta against myself.
I simply stated a fact about all the flirting distracting people from researching cures etc. I didnot name any names when I posted that so much flirting was going on in the chatroom and less research etc. Infact, you later volunteered yourself as an example of someone who loved flirting.
Your posts have shown that you have a personal vendetta.
Now I dont want to keep you too busy snobuni because I know you have a busy day ahead of yourself with that flirting.
snobuni wrote:
If you feel so strongly snobuni you dont need to take time out from your busy schedule flirting to respond. We can all see you have better things doing with your time (flirting that is).Well girls, as I said, there's little else to be said on the subjects as far as I'm concerned and I'll not be continuing this little tete a tete
Drastic
