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hi, i wanted to know if anybody is plagued by a fecal smell on their breath. and whether anyone has any theory as to what causes it and what might help it. even when i have relief from other kinds of odor, the fecal smell is persistent. i used to think that constipation caused that, but have heard from people who don't have constipation and yet still have fecal breath.

any thoughts, anyone?


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WFR:
That is very much the predominant odor people with chronic halitosis have. Recently, a site was created to deal with that specifically, the fecal breath or body odor. I don't have the address handy, but I will post it later.
Yes, sometimes people think it is from constipation; my doctor repeatedly asked me for years if I was constipated when he detected the shit odor; I told him that was not the case; he said, "are you sure."
When I openly mentioned that I knew I had bb and that it smelled like shit; rather than dance around the subject, he said, "brush your tongue."
Boy do those doctors dazzle us with their brilliance.
I'll post the site later or tomorrow. You are among many with the same odor. You get rid of one odor, but the fecal just seems to stay around.
I posted saying I used all the chlorophyls and chlorellas, spirulina, alfalfa for years; as I said you could sit and have a close up conversation with my shit or my ass; they smelled great; like clover; but my breath smelled like shit.
It's all too weird. Laura
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From all the products that I've tried, perioImmune is the only thing that has alleviated my fecal breath. The only thing is, every time I stop using it the fecal taste and breath return one or two days later. I still suffer from bb but I don't think it's the fecal kind anymore.
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you use it all

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Jess:
I was just looking at this perioimmune stuff; it's a kit I take it; and it's rather expensive too. Do you take all of products to relieve the fecal odor?
Or is it just the chewables at night? How long did it take before you concluded it worked for you?
And also, How long have you had the fecal odor; who told you had it; and who has confirmed by using this product that you no longer have it?
If indeed this takes care of the fecal odor; it is worth every cent.
I just need to confirm that you have a similar condition and have had both confirmation of the actual odor; and confirmation that the odor has been eliminated.
Thanks for the info. Laura
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LJ wrote:Jess:
I was just looking at this perioimmune stuff; it's a kit I take it; and it's rather expensive too. Do you take all of products to relieve the fecal odor?
Or is it just the chewables at night? How long did it take before you concluded it worked for you?
And also, How long have you had the fecal odor; who told you had it; and who has confirmed by using this product that you no longer have it?
If indeed this takes care of the fecal odor; it is worth every cent.
I just need to confirm that you have a similar condition and have had both confirmation of the actual odor; and confirmation that the odor has been eliminated.
Thanks for the info. Laura
PerioImmune comes as a kit with two other products. As I said on a previous post, I don't feel the other two products make any difference in my breath. The only one that works for me in the kit is the perioImmune, and that's the disavantage of the kit because I don't even use the "peioSure" and the "perioBiotics" anymore. But because of the big difference I feel that the"perioImmune" makes in my breath I still continue to buy the kit nevertheless.

I've been suffering from chronic bad breath for seven years now. And as we all know it here people don't come to you and tell you that you have bad breath. But over and over again I've overheard people talking about me saying stuff like" her breath smells like sh***t", "she smells so bad", "she stinks", and stuff like that every single day. And eventhough it's very hard for someone to smell their own breath, it was so bad that at times I could actually smell mine, but I'm sure that whatever I smell is five to ten times worse to other people. But anyway since I've been using this product I no longer have that very bad fecal taste in the back of my mouth. To make sure it was because of the PerioImmune, I stopped using it four times, and every times I stopped the bad taste returned and the comments returned more frequently. Also I felt a difference in my breath about two to three days of using it.

Because I don't have someone to verify my breath and give me feedback on a regular basis, I can only rely on my own observations. And that's why I always use the terms " I think", "I feel". But trust me when something is helping you you know it.
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Jess I understand...but ...

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Jess:
I do understand your point that you can taste it and even smell it yourself. (I personally have the wonderful talent of being able to smell my own breath, it rocks; makes you even more self conscious) I began smoking cigarettes years ago so I couldn't smell it as well. (recently stopped again though)
However, the true test has always come from another person; not myself. And as far as if it's working "you know it" I think that's arguable.
I've had days where I could swear I had good breath and was okay. (Various products over the years) and even lost the fecal taste for a while.
But upon the verification process; "What does my breath smell like and how strong?" I found that I still had odor that was shitty that could overwhelm an aromatherapy candle.
I believe verification is the only real way for us to truly "know" what is going on.
Pink tongues and taste sensations are not going to do it.
And as far as reactions; I find them helpful only in the sense that I know this particular person percieves something; but they have been no help in me determining what works (nothing yet) and what doesn't.
I just wish we had more verification for members so we could truly talk and quiet the speculation.
In one sense I'm lucky; I have pushed myself to a point of wanting the truth and nothing but the truth no matter how embarrassing the answer. And I have had good friends thru the years that were willing to talk to me about it.
I wish that others had people who would help them too. I think it would make such a change on how we operate on these bad breath boards. We could say I took such and such; and my girlfriend/boyfriend/neighbor/dentist/brother/sister/ daughter/son said that it is reducing my odor, or changing it or maybe it's the same.
That's still subjective (sense of smell really is) but it contains information we can use with confidence.
One friend of mine was a dental assistant; she told me that she could smell people with gingivitis or periodontal disease coming thru the door; I asked her about me; and she said my odor is nothing like it.
I trust that you wouldn't post this if you really didn't think it had worked for you. I just wish you had some people you could directly ask about it's effectiveness.
There are so many people with the fecal; that if you verified it worked; they would be so indebted to you. Thanks for the info. Laura
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I know what you mean, but unfortunately I don't have people to check my breath and give me true, genuine feedback on a regular basis. So I guess the only way you, or anyone else will know if it can help you too is by trying it yourselves. And by the way eventhough people's reactions can't be the only way to verify your breath, they can give you some feelings on how bad your breath is.
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i never thought my breath was fecal, and that my bb came from my tongue. Tongue bb is like a sour, foot odour smell. This can be controlled with tongue scraping and K12 probiotics because K12 colonises the tongue and saliva. It cannot colonise the tonsils. (This has been admitted by the people who sell the stuff)

I was poking around my tonsils the other day but didnt find any tonsil stones. But when i pulled out the cotton tip it smelled like shit, really bad. This makes me wonder, does the fact that my tongue is clean and colonised with probiotics still mean that i dont have fresh breath, even though it "feels" like i do? Because if my tonsils smell that bad, surely my breath will too, since the air passes over my tonsils as i speak.....

I am going to get my tonsils removed and see. Again, caustic girl is right, we need family members or trusted friends to truly gauge our situation.
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first of all - my breath has been verified by a "bad breath specialist" (dentist) who told me directly that there was no cure.

about the fecal odor - i smell it when i talk sometimes, or when i laugh. and i can really check it by flossing. the weird thing is, the smell usually exists only between certain teeth. after i'd flossed those specific areas, the floss smells like that.

i wonder why the bacteria that cause the fecal smell only colonize between certain teeth? and if it has any connection with certain area of my digestive system??

there's got to be a theory but i just can't figure it out. why is it only certain areas of my gum/teeth smell fecal? as far as i can tell, it doesn't come from my tongue or throat.

what do you guys think?
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waitingforrelief,
I had that problem last year. I was flossing my teeth normally but when I did between 2 certain teeth and smelled it it smelled like shit (a completely different odor than my bb). I also noticed that if I brush that when I brush that area, it bleeds a little. I started brushing and flossing that area better but softer and it went away. Now it doesnt smell like shit there and doesnt bleed too.
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noptical wrote:waitingforrelief,
I had that problem last year. I was flossing my teeth normally but when I did between 2 certain teeth and smelled it it smelled like shit (a completely different odor than my bb). I also noticed that if I brush that when I brush that area, it bleeds a little. I started brushing and flossing that area better but softer and it went away. Now it doesnt smell like shit there and doesnt bleed too.
hi noptical,

so it sounds like yours was a gum problem. my gum doesn't bleed so it made me think that the cause is something deeper than oral. i've tried to floss those areas more and it does temporarily get rid of the smell but then it comes back.

anyway, i'll try to brush it even more and see.
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Hi, i'm new here....and i was wondering can any of you guys that have the fecal smell actually smell it on yourself?
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yes i can some times when i turn rapidly, or when im taking a shower but what works better for me and i know this is gonna sound wierd is when im on the back of the bus i dont know why but every time i seat all the way to the end of the bus i always hit a spot where i can smell the fecal odor coming out of my nose and its constant every time i breath out a fecal odor comes out, but ofcoures if im walking on the streets and stuff like that i cant smell it but i know is there all the time, any way i haven't given up on the lazer surgery i recently finish saving the money and im gonna have it done.
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Post by soulsk8erboi2008 »

you see i don't know AT ALL how my breath smells...if i do the whole exhale out of your mouth and inhale through your nose, it smells like what i just ate or if i brush my teeth, mint...and if i hadnt eaten anything for awhile it smells like nothing.
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me wrote:yes i can some times when i turn rapidly, or when im taking a shower but what works better for me and i know this is gonna sound wierd is when im on the back of the bus i dont know why but every time i seat all the way to the end of the bus i always hit a spot where i can smell the fecal odor coming out of my nose and its constant every time i breath out a fecal odor comes out, but ofcoures if im walking on the streets and stuff like that i cant smell it but i know is there all the time, any way i haven't given up on the lazer surgery i recently finish saving the money and im gonna have it done.
because when u are at bus, the gas is accumulated around you, the smell is more intense than u r walking. I guess
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