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For some people there may be no cure.
I am female and in a way it's worse because ppl expect females to be more hygienic even when this is not a hygiene issue.
I used to be an alcoholic in my 20s. By my 30s I had severe acid reflux, even when I don't eat anything but dry toast I feel the acid come up into my mouth. This acid has made my teeth deteriorate and despite spending thousands on fillings I still have the problem because I also have sever allergies and pnd and the. 2 combined together are a deadly combination. I say deadly because what's the point in living when you don't have a social life & can't get one. I have been in abusive relationships just because I thought well at least he will have me. When we fought he would say no one else will have u and I know what he was referring to. The problem has become so bad that after losing my job to no fault of my own I now can't get hired, having been on several job interviews for which I was over qualified I was never offered a position intact I could see the interviewer trying to hold back and cover their nose. It's so humiliating I avoid it rather than keep trying and hope that one day I'm interviewed by someone who can't smell.
What is someone like me to do. No friends no job not much family close by, no bf unless I am willing to put up with being abused. I am still able to attract men because I am attractive on the outside but I can't keep them when they realize the smell is there every day.
If I didnt have this problem I would take life by the balls and be a great person. Because i do have it I am afraid to even open my mouth. It has destroyed all my relationships and my self esteem is gone. I have tried everything & no doctor gives a shit or even knows what the problem is. I can accept being alone forever but if I can't get hired (didn't have the problem 8 years ago when I got my last job) then how am I supposed to support myself.
It's a serious problem that needs to be addressed and when I have asked friends they don't want to tell me the truth.
A few tips from someone who's had room filling bad breath for 45 years due to a combination of Geographic Tongue, fissured tongue, PND and chronic allergic rhinitis. Now THAT's a difficult combo. I've found nothing that will work or alleviate my bad breath and I've tried everything I could afford. There were some recent posts here concluding that the "hard cases" could be the result of some sort of immune suppression (possibly due to chronic subconscious anxieties) that keeps scavanging (good) oral microorganisms from doing their job and keeping the anaerobic bacteria out of the mouth. I think this is a good avenue for exploration.
But back to you:
1. Get out of any abusive relationship. Do not be desperate for a partner, you will be taken advantage of.
2. If you are on your own without family or financial resources to fall back on, work like a dog to get some form of employment, preferably something that doesn't require face to face interaction with the public.
3. If you have family you can move in with, explain to them your situation and ask for their help. Find casual or temp work to contribute to their food budget as you can and then use the situation to find an interest that could lead to self employment- a hobby, collecting, eBay, crafts, etc. Become good at something that is fun and interesting and can bring some money in. This will help your sense of self-reliance and pride, which suffers terribly from our condition.
4. Discover that you have a mind and curiosity about the world and begin to love reading and self-education. Right now you hate yourself and you need to discover your hidden abilities that can help you overcome self-hatred. This doesn't have to be heavy "academic" stuff, just things that interest you- movies, art, travel, other cultures, anything that can get you started hanging out on Wikipedia following link after link. Once you find that you can entertain yourself while improving your mind without needing to become a party animal or the company of other people, you will begin to become a true citizen of the world living a relevant life dedicated to self-improvement. This is kind of a rare thing and will become a source of pride for you.
5. Never lose your sense of humor, your optimism, your love for humanity or your desire to make the world a better place. There are many of us suffering as you are all over the world, to the point that scientists are beginning to look more closely at the problem (particularly in Israel) and may be coming up with some answers in the short term.
6. Listen to Beethoven and Mozart every day.
Keep us informed about your life and how things are going. You have friends here.
Its almost as if i wrote this post! Ive been in abusive relationships also becuz cmon..who would want me. Ive had 3normal bfs. But like you,its hard when they realize its constant. Im lonely and its killing me but i dont want to be the "booty call" . I cant keep doing that to myself or puy myself in danger just to be with someone. I hope you know you shouldn't either. I dont have friends either.associates maybe. Ive been reaching out to ppl on here but it never goes anywhere from a few msgs. Now idk what the ***k to do. If i cant make friends here,where can i? Anyways. No matter what,never down yourself and think you dpnt deserve a good man. No one deserves to be abused no matter what. I have to practically yell at myself so i wont go back. Just to be held.its a shame. I have no problem getting guys either.im a pretty girl. But it never goes anywhere. Its so frustrating! ! Wish i could be more helpful to your bb but all i can say is you're not alone and dont give up on finding a cure.browse this site or others for things that have cured people. But be careful with scams.goodluck! P.s my writing is bad becuz im on my cell phone lol.i type fast and its hard to write here.
@222chick: i agree that most ppl lie. One bf told me i had bb. I think he didn't mean for it to come out lol. He looked like he regretted it. We have been on and off 3years now.met him with bb.i asked why would he stay with someone like me.he said he loves and that b.s. another guy just made facial expressions . He would invite his friends over an they all will say rude remarks. Ugh. The other one was never rude but he made faces also.
my last abuser never made any direct comments about my breath but he did say fix your teeth once when we were fighting. i think most people are afraid to make fun of another persons breath because they are not sure of their own. i think my acid reflux issues starting from being an alcoholic and i often feel like going back to the booze to make me feel better, but again, if i go into a bar and order a drink the bar tender will give me a dirty look like i'm a character out of the bar scene in star wars. sometimes after a couple of vodkas my mouth feels cleaner but then the reflux sets in and my smell can be detected from many feet away. i definitely do not have the confidence to date, when i have made online profiles i have had many guys who want to meet but i make excuses not to. it's definitely not something that was there a few years ago. i have asked my previous bf if he ever noticed anything but he said no out of kindness, but he did also make a comment once during a fight. My ENT said he found nothing wrong with me, he was a specialist in BB and he is probably too embarrassed to say sorry i have no idea what this could be. I do have a very dry mouth and am unable to even spit. I've been told that this is from taking prescription medications, but even when i come off them, there is no improvement. The only thing i noticed made a massive difference is when i took xanax, some people think this is because it lowers stress. This is not necessarily true, it improves conditions for some because it increases the amount of saliva you produce ten fold and therefore even if you have reflux and sinus issues the extra saliva is helping to wash this away. This is only a temporary fix because the body gets used to the meds within a week.But when i first tried xanax my mouth was so clean in the morning i wouldnt even feel like i needed to brush my teeth and i noticed the same thing with my ex bf, his morning breath was completely gone. i don't know about some of you but my bedroom smells like the devil took a shit in there. if i sleep with my mouth taped shut, which i know may be dangerous it keeps the odor at bay. I am basically living my life avoiding people, i asked my mother for a loan and she said she will wire me some money i am too embarrassed to even tell her because she will tell me its all in my head and she can't afford to keep on doing that. She is anxious for me to settle down and have a family because i am in my early 30s now but i don't have the heart to tell her nobody will want me. Despite being funny, attractive, educated and all my other qualities, nobody will want to lay next to someone who stinks every night and i don't blame them. My abusive ex once had his friend in the back of the car and i didn't wan to turn around to talk to him and he said to me "look at him when you are talking to him" it felt like he wanted him to smell me because he wanted his friend to see that i stink and i am not as wonderful as people think.
What would be great is if i could meet someone from this site who would straight out be honest with me and say yes you smell like shit/piss/vinegar and then maybe i can eliminate certain things. I had my tonsils lasered and this helped temporarily, but its my belief that the tissue grows back. As i am not working and do have temporary cobra coverage i should spend all my time visiting doctors until i find one that will help. But i am so low i don't want to deal with anybody. The few friends i have who are people i used to work with, i am kind of close with them, but we only speak by phone and they ask me why i would let myself be abused and i dont have the heart to say well i am not sure if you ever noticed but i stink like shit and its doubtful prince charming will want to rescue me anytime soon.
I think about s*****e all the time but at the same time i realize how ridiculous this may sound. My abuser knew i was suicidal but i never once had the guts to say its because i believe that i have a chronic bb problem. And being that he was abusing me he probably didnt want me to fix the issue because he would have lost all his power over me. There were a few times he would hold me very close and let me talk in his face which leads me to believe either he is a great actor or the smell was better on some days than others. People can often tell you its in your head but you know by the way people treat you, in stores etc. They rarely smile and try not to communicate with you beyond giving you your change. I considered visiting the clinic in SF but when i called them they were adamant the problem is only ever from the mouth and i know this is horse shit. The last day i didnt smell was about a year ago, i took zyrtek prevacid zantac another med for pnd (i forget the name) and xanax. I was able to go a full day without any odd glances. So i'm pretty sure my problem is pnd and reflux combined. as i mentioned my body builds a tolerance to the meds fast so the happiness is short lived. What i need is someone by my side 24 hours for a day for a couple of days who can tell me when the smell is at its worst so i can determine what causes it. Air travel is another issue that makes it worse, this is probably due to the air pressure in the cabin, it wreaks havoc on my sinuses and must lead to pnd which spreads bacteria all through the mouth and this can last for days. Other triggers i have noticed are not sleeping enough or sleeping too much. I have also tried therabreath, it worked for a few days and then i became immune to it. Brushing my teeth throughout the day makes it worse because the action of having a toothbrush at the back of my tongue is encouraging acid to rise up. Sometimes after brushing my teeth i have an insane sore throat, which is from the acid.
Anyway we could debate the issue forever but all of the people who have mocked me i really wish they could spend just a day in my shoes. If anyone feels like talking more but doesnt want to do it openly, feel free to pm me.
Thank you all for your concern and suggestions, its very much appreciated.
Bobby85 breaks my heart reading your story; I'm in the exact same situation and totally understand how you must be feeling. Every single day I wonder why we were dealt this curse [because it truly is a curse] while others get to live out normal lives and enjoy it to the fullest.
All we can do is to remain hopeful, that one day this curse will end. Stay strong and don't give up hope.
Myself, I have tried pretty much 90% of options out there. Now venturing to try laser treatment to kill bacteria biofilm on the tongue/ mouth. Hopefully good results, will provide feedback after.....
Im curious about your location. I hope you're close to me(California) . I will pray for you as well as everyone one else here. I shake my head reading your post. Sound so much like me. Im so young though! Ive been drinkkn more more. Cant even buy liquor myself but i get drunk allthe time. I wanna hug u and tell u it's gonna be okay. I feel bad for you and what you've been through becuz i know. Abuse hurts and lasts years. I also feel my exs liked i had bb to keep me n make me feel like im not shit n not worth shit. You're not alone. Im just like you. Its weird.. just dont give up or in.
Hey now, there must be a cure!! Every day people are discovering new things, latest news: bee venom may cure aids. There is hope all around just don't throw in the towel.
First thing to do is to stop drinking alcohol. Your body is damaged but not it's not damaged beyond repair. You can REPAIR your body.It's not about what you eat, it's about what you don't eat.
If you knew alcohol is giving you problems why continue drinking? I want you to do something for yourself, love and respect your body. Stop punishing it by eating junk, it's a temple not a rubbish bin.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference.
Bobby85, I totally feel for you and understand what you're going through, I've also had to put up with an abusive partner. But I was strong enough to kick his ass out of my life. Why should we put up with that crap? Regardless of our condition, we shouldn't tolerate abuse in any way or form. So please don't give up and just continue searching for a cure...Definitely do something about the reflux, you must get it checked by a GI.
Have you ever tried any ppi medications? I remember when I took Nexium years back, my bb was reduced to probably 15% but I had to stop taking it as I had severe side effects (I tried it again not long ago but it didn't have the same effect on my bb as it did previously.) I've also tried Zoton which improved my condition slightly, but I have now stopped it as I had to have various breath and blood tests and didn't want the meds to effect the test results
So give that a try and definitely see a specialist. But don't ever give up! And Good Luck!
Bobby85,
Your story is certainly a terrible one, but here's my two cents worth.
It seems to me that your bad breath might be due to a combination of problems, but the first order of business should probably be addressing the acid reflux. I would suggest less alcohol and a mild drink like Chamomile tea, and easily digestible foods such as boiled or mashed potatoes and steamed vegetables. Try it for a couple of weeks and see if it reduces the acid reflux. Then maybe address the post nasal drip which is probably loading your throat with mucus. Don't take any medicine that dries out your mouth. Saliva is your friend.
The hand we are dealt is fate. How we play the cards is free will.
I truly beleive that you are very depressed with all this. I can say you that when I take xanax my BB improves a lot, and I dont no why, I can ensure you its not because improves my saliva flow, because I have a medicine ''Pilocarpine'' that is a very powerfull against dry mouth, its a brasilian medicine, that is very cheap here, and very expensive in US, so when I took pilocarpine (every day) plus xanax my BB improves a lot. Most of us over estimate our BB, thats wy I think the xanax work for us. Do you take any Anti depressants?
dont beleive that dry mouth is the main problem for nobody, there is a lot of old people with it and dont have BB. But in our case the dry mouth increase the problem, and you can improve about 30% taking medicine for it.
Send me a PM and I will try to send you the pilocarpine, I dont know if its possible to send medication by mail, but I will try.
I dont think your BB is the worse, but maybe you are the worse suffer. Think there is people that know they have BB and dont worrie about it.
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