Creating a solution on my own!

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:46 pm

I have come to the realization that if I am ever going to find a "cure" or practical solution, I am just going to have to figure it out by myself. Cuz clearly all these dentists/ big companies etc don't give af.

But through using these forever mints, it would be awesome if there was something similar that can stay in the mouth and put of the odour [specifically relating to Type 1 BB only, as this is what I believe I have]. For example, the way in which placing a box of baking soda eliminates odour in the fridge. Therefore, I have decided to create a device that can stay place on the upper teeth/gumline and deter odor without having an obnoxious minty smell or taste. I am just going to have to use my own hard earned paycheck to make this device into a reality. I am now actively searching for an engineer/ chemist student/ or anyone who specializes in orthodontic devices to work with me to create this. If you or you know anyone in Canada that could be of help, can you please contact me?

Also, I will be giving you guys an update regularly as the process to create this device carries on.

Ihatemybreath · Post by **Ihatemybreath** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:29 am

Such a revolution. You have my support

jamesmcavoy · Post by **jamesmcavoy** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:44 am

i have type 1 bb and trust me baking soda gargle makes my breath smell like fishy and farty .

about device , go thr aydin murats research where he is making a device which generates low currentflow thr tongue which is efficient to disrupt bacterial flora for a day enough .

Ihatemybreath · Post by **Ihatemybreath** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:33 am

I tried gargling with backing soda and peroxide a fell days ago and almost threw up. I can't do it

jamesmcavoy · Post by **jamesmcavoy** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:10 am

My bastard country sells-men (indians) never give me zinc chloride which i think would be the best for type 1 case .
have you tried gargling with it ???

if not give it a try ..its very very cheaper . i have not tried it but i am sure it will work best

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:16 pm

sorry, I was just using the baking soda in the fridge as an example of how I would like my device to work. Haven't figured out the properties for the odour repellent yet. Thanks for the feedback

hopelessone · Post by **hopelessone** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:47 pm

StillHoping wrote:I have come to the realization that if I am ever going to find a "cure" or practical solution, I am just going to have to figure it out by myself. Cuz clearly all these dentists/ big companies etc don't give af.

But through using these forever mints, it would be awesome if there was something similar that can stay in the mouth and put of the odour [specifically relating to Type 1 BB only, as this is what I believe I have]. For example, the way in which placing a box of baking soda eliminates odour in the fridge. Therefore, I have decided to create a device that can stay place on the upper teeth/gumline and deter odor without having an obnoxious minty smell or taste. I am just going to have to use my own hard earned paycheck to make this device into a reality. I am now actively searching for an engineer/ chemist student/ or anyone who specializes in orthodontic devices to work with me to create this. If you or you know anyone in Canada that could be of help, can you please contact me?

Also, I will be giving you guys an update regularly as the process to create this device carries on.

you have my support too...

by the way, i started using Forever Mints and i don't find the minyiness obnoxious at all.....i like it...it reminds me that it's still in there, and working. i've tried them twice. Once when i was home just to see what they were like, and today when i was out and about and talking to a lot of people....and i didn't have any reactions or such anywhere. I got another test coming though, tonight i'll be with family for an extended time, and i'll see how it goes when i'm laughing, etc.

Thanks for telling us about the Forever Mints. I gotta admit, i was unenthused and skeptical when you first mentioned them, but now i'm cautiously optimistic.

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:07 pm

thanks hopelessone, and yes I was also very skeptical at first but it has definitely turned out to be the best solution I have found thus far. But I personally would prefer to have a neutral/ no smell at all as opposed to mint all the time. This is why I want to create something. Good luck with meeting your family tonight, let us know how it goes.

Archimonde · Post by **Archimonde** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:42 pm

Wasn't there a member here who said he keeps a tiny plastic bag of baking soda in his mouth? That was years ago, i could be wrong.

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:34 am

really? It would be interesting to view the post, I wonder how he kept it in his mouth though

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:19 pm

Update: almost 2 months later and finally found an engineer willing to work with me. We have set up a meeting for next week, wherein we will go over the idea and hopefully he will be able to develop the prototype for me. Its gonna cost me a lot $$ but I am determined to do whatever it takes to make a solution.

I will update you guys after the meeting.

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:03 am

Late Update: the engineer who was supposed to help me with the design kept postponing and eventually pretty much just bailed on me *Shock*

Thereafter I reached out to many orthodontic practitioners and even manufacturers, unfortunately nobody wants to work with me. Pretty much back at square one again....

I have found an orthodontist in the U.S. who is willing to create the generic form of the device for me, and then I will pretty much just try to modify the device on my own. Even though I have zero skills or knowledge on this. Which is why I wanted to put up another post, if anyone knows of any engineer or someone willing to help in Canada, please contact me! This has already been quite an expensive endeavor, and I don't even have the actual device yet. It would be very helpful if I could find someone in the same country because it would be much cheaper.

Will provide another update once the test device has reached the final stage.

emotional rescue · Post by **emotional rescue** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:16 pm

Maybe it could sound stupid, but I'd always thought that if bb bacteria is anaerobic, what I we had some kind of device that could throw oxygen with the enought strenght to kill the anaerobic bacteria, at least for a while, until the bacteria regenerates?

Where I live there is a bb specialist (Like a Dr Katz kind...) that sells a homemade mouthwash and toothpaste based on Ozone.
Ozone is 3 atoms of Oxygen per molecule. (O3) while common Oxygen is 2 atoms per molecule. (O2).

Although in theory this should work, everytime I tried it I felt like it works a bit, but i feel that is not strong enough.

My theory for this is that in mouthwash form, the Ozone is diluted with water and god knows what else (The ingredients are not listed in the bottle) so as a liquid is not able to penetrate enough into the cavities or biofilm, where the anaerobic bacteria is really hiding.

But what if we had some kind of High pressure Oxygen or Ozone can, that could throw oxygen directly to our tongue with the enough strenght to break the biofilm, and kill the anaerobic bacteria?

Does it make sense to you guys?

It should be something like this, but with a healthy formula that is not hazardous to our health:

http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Blast-Duster ... ressed+air

Let me know what you think,

Good luck to all

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:22 am

thanks for the post emotional rescue, that is a great idea! And that is actually my long term goal for my device; something that can continuously release a solution strong enough to eliminate the odor while in the mouth. I have never heard ot this ozone but it does seem pretty viable, I will look into this. Although through my research, it seems like this will cost me lots of $$ and I am yet to find an engineer/scientist or anyone for that matter, willing to work with me.

Soo for now, I am focusing on a masking device, which will be more easier and hopefully I can successfully create on my own. But I am willing to work with anyone/anywhere. What country are you from?

StillHoping · Post by **StillHoping** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:00 pm

Update: almost 6 months later. Manufacturer has completed generic device and shipped it to me, now waiting for it to get here. Immediately it gets here, I will begin working on the modifications and hopefully it wont take me too long. It is very exciting because this is something I have total control over and since I am the test subject, I can use it on myself to figure out how to improve on it. The focus will be on masking for now; by the end of this year, will try to figure out a way of elimination.

Now I need to save $ to file patent. Spent soo much money thus far, might as well protect my device.

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