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YippieImCured
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Post by YippieImCured »

how could you ever have been BB-free in the past if you have always been "toxified by modern life".
Sux, from what I understand, we are able to deal with a certain amount of toxins, but if we ingest too much bad food, our immune system can no longer deal with the overload and breaks down.
As far as being born with an enzyme deficiency or not, maybe, - we were all born with certain weaknesses, but how we treat our body during life decides whether these latent weaknesses are set off or remain dormant. Phenotypic expression rather than genotype. Check out phenotypes on wikipedia. Your second concise summary of my point is correct.
Briefly, I've sweated out a crapload of toxins, and healed my mucosal gut lining with oats. My halitosis and sinuses were cleared out by the fasting, but I didn't post here until I discovered the oats and started healing my leaky gut+the B.O.
Archimonde, I should juice every day, but I don't. It shouldn't be a big deal to do it. When I do juice every day though, I start to feel awesome. Dark leafy greens are vital for health. Check out David Wolfe on the Ultimate smoothie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSlxCRdL ... re=related
Vivian, I would like to chat sometime but I am currently living in China, so the time you gave me is difficult. I prefer to answer health questions on this thread, so everyone can benefit. But if you want to chat about other stuff I may come across you one day, we'll see.
UPDATE: MY OWN HEALTH: I binged on a crapload of mushrooms, Thursday night, drank too many beers and ate some prawns as well. The mushrooms were covered in Soy sauce and a bit of garlic. Predictably, I woke up smelling like crap. I wish I could just drink some Dettol sometimes. Lucky I didn't have to go out. I had very mild BB on Friday morning, but a lot of people would after that kind of meal. I'll have to accept that I'll have to be very careful about what I eat for a while, and perhaps forever. Still, it's a small price to pay.
Mushrooms and seafood contain a lot of copper, and I've realised I may have a copper/zinc imbalance. I fasted for 24 hours and have only eaten oats and a few nuts since Friday morning, and taken some zinc, and I feel great again.
Ho hum.
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Archimonde
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Post by Archimonde »

Had an interesting experience last nite. I hadn't had any grain whatsoever in 4 months but decided to try dry oats as suggested by Yippie.

My stomach had considerably flattened lately. Well about an hour after eating oats, i went from a flat stomach to a 6 months pregnant-like stomach. I'm still very bloated this morning, i don't know if this bloating effect is related in any way to BB but it can't be good and a sign that i shouldn't eat oats. I wonder if all grain have that effect or just a select few, i may try another grain once my stomach is flat again.

Am i the only one who has bloating issues?
Snobuni
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Post by Snobuni »

No, I bloat up too if I even think about carbs, even brown rice has this effect on me! Could be the sugars/starch feeding candida and causing fermentation and gas.
yensid789
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Post by yensid789 »

Elow Yippie,
Hi there! Great posts you have here, good links, too. I've been following the threads in the past days and I must say, I sure am learning a lot! And now I'm having a clearer picture on how fasting helps in getting rid of BB. Although I'm hesistant to try b/c I get severe epigastric pain when I do this, I think I have an acid issue. I frequently have heartburn and sour stomach. How do you think my condition relates to BB? I'm now working on detoxifying my body especially eating green leafy veggies (this time around I mean it!) Have you ever tried taking activated charcoal internally? I'm kinda having second thoughts about this although I know it's safe. How much should I take? And for how long?
I really think we should have posts like this more often! Hope to hear a word from you!
halitosisux
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Post by halitosisux »

Hi yensid,

Most smptoms of gastritis are usually a sign of h.pylori infection. The geographic incidences of this infection vary greatly around the world, but in certain areas its literally the entire population. Have you been tested for h.pylori? are you aware of the reported connection between this and halitosis? Please have a read in some of my recent postings for some information on this. Many others too are looking into this and providing lots of useful info.
yensid789
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Post by yensid789 »

Hey Sux,
Yeah, I've been reading a lot of your posts lately. Actually, I was thinking of having the test and now that you've mentioned it I think I'll go for it. Thanks!
BTW, what was the result of your h.pylori test?
(i hope it's ok if i call u sux too)
halitosisux
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Post by halitosisux »

Hey Yensid,
You can call me h.sux lol,

I have been tested by both blood test and endoscopy with biopsy of stomach lining taken etc, which resulted in a convincing negative for h.pylori.
This was all following triple-therapy for HP, but it was only a 7 day duration which left me feeling unconvinced afterwards, so i pleaded and was sent for an endoscopy. Strangely i did intermittently show many symptoms of h.pylori infection, including ulcer symptoms, which my dad almost died from in his 30s from a perforated ulcer, but i did finally accept im not infected, and i've now put them down to stress/anxiety/smoking.

During the time of the treatment, my BB completely disappeared, but returned soon after completion (likely to be the direct effect of antibiotics on oral bacteria, but by no means a certainty). Some have reportedly remained free of BB following this treatment, and some, like myself, have not.
It's not yet clear what is happening, but read the link below and make your own conclusions and decide whether you think its worth persuing. Personally, i cant imagine how anyone with CH has not yet decided its worth finding out.

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/pr ... =98364.pdf

(sorry yippie from deviating from the subject of this thread, i'll make my own if i need to say more)
halitosisux
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Post by halitosisux »

Yensid, i need to make an important correction to the previous posting.

I need to clarify that i first went to see my doctor to discuss my symptoms of gastritis, which i did have at the time, but no longer do. This was when i first discovered the reported link between HP and BB. I wasnt tested for HP at this stage, my doc just put me straight on triple-therapy. My BB continued after this, along with my gastritis, so i thought that maybe the treatment had been unsuccessful in eradicating HP. So he then gave me blood tests which not only confirmed i no longer had HP, but also that i never had it in the first place. Still, i pleaded for an endoscopy, which he agreed to, and which confirmed beyond doubt that i do not and never had HP.
After reducing smoking and controlling anxiety etc, my gastritis symptoms improved. Maybe there were other factors causing my gastritis at the time, the main symptoms being random but mild heartburn to excruciating pain below my breastbone if anything acidic was consumed, lemons would literally have me reeling on the floor in pain, but somehow ive experienced many years now with no symptoms whatsoever. Maybe i really did have HP and it was eradicated? god knows, sometimes my health seems to be controlled by external forces. weird
YippieImCured
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Post by YippieImCured »

Very very busy at the moment... Will check in in a few days. Briefly: Oats expand when you add water, so dry ones will expand in your stomach. Never been a problem for me but could be for others. A porridge could be made with warm water, not too hot, may be fine. No sugar though. An oat smoothie could work. Another slightly grosser option is chewing them then spitting them out.... :-&
Activated Charcoal- you'll have to google the dosages cos I dnt know...Good luck...gonna buy some myself this afternoon.
out. :evil: :lol: :twisted: :roll: =D> :-({|= :-k
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Post by elliott »

YippieImCured wrote:Very very busy at the moment... Will check in in a few days. Briefly: Oats expand when you add water, so dry ones will expand in your stomach. Never been a problem for me but could be for others.
hmmm you may be on to something with this idea. Raw oats will expand in the stomach. Shouldn't cause any harm, actually sounds like a great idea, soak up some of the nasty shit in my body. :P Nah seriously, I've had less starchy carbs and more greens, more then usual lately. Felt better. Not gonna say I smelled better, but I did feel ok and that means something to me. Generally when this happens, the next week I go back to normal, so we'll see.
asd
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Post by asd »

so any good results?
elliott
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Post by elliott »

No results for me. I fell off the wagon, and have been eating pizza and drinking wine. I keep forgetting I am not allowed to enjoy ANYTHING good anymore.
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