Anyone used Colloidal Silver for the Sinus?
Anyone used Colloidal Silver for the Sinus?
I just picked up some today, I am rinsing my sinuses with it in all different ways. Apparently is kills everything except for good bacteria(?). We shall see how it goes.
The flip turn rinse worked to clear out mucus globs, and open up my sinus. But it did not seem to get rid of the nasal fart/odor, and I am still getting reactions. It also did not get rid of the odor on the mucus at the back of the throat/uvula. It seemed like it was getting rid of the smell, but I then realized that it just temporarily dulled my sense of smell (I can still smell slightly, but its a lot harder after the rinse), as salt is an odor neutralizer, it may temporarily neutralize any odor coming into our sense receptors after a rinse.
I am still doing the rinse though. It could be the answer (it may just take a while), and it can definitely help while I am trying other things. It is also very good for you.
Part of the colloidal silver sinus treatment is rinsing first with regular saline, then rinsing with colloid and a bit of saline. This link has info about the silver rinses and its effectiveness in chronic sinusitis. I would like to see more research.
http://www.zimbio.com/Sinus+Pressure/ar ... dal+Silver
I can definitely feel a strange sense in the sinus, but it hasn't seemed to rid of the PND odor, and just now I am having nasal fart. It is 5:38 and I haven't had anything to eat today, I am fasting. I have done 2 rinse procedures today, and have drank about 3 ounces of the colloid. I am also drinking a lot of hot water with lemon and ginger. While rinsing with the colloid, I try and keep it in my sinus for a longer period so that it can go to work on whatever might be in there. I am also taking gauifenesin as an expectorant to get the mucus out and flowing (so it is not as thick as usual). This may help in the cleansing process.
Now one other possibility is a slight infection of the lungs. It may be causing the (nasal fart), and may be the reason why ENTs can't find anything. There is something called a nebulizer which I may purchase, it gets the colloid into the lungs. There is definitely a lot of evidence that shows the mucus of a lung infection can smell really bad. Also, not all lung infections fill with liquid or pus.
I am still doing the rinse though. It could be the answer (it may just take a while), and it can definitely help while I am trying other things. It is also very good for you.
Part of the colloidal silver sinus treatment is rinsing first with regular saline, then rinsing with colloid and a bit of saline. This link has info about the silver rinses and its effectiveness in chronic sinusitis. I would like to see more research.
http://www.zimbio.com/Sinus+Pressure/ar ... dal+Silver
I can definitely feel a strange sense in the sinus, but it hasn't seemed to rid of the PND odor, and just now I am having nasal fart. It is 5:38 and I haven't had anything to eat today, I am fasting. I have done 2 rinse procedures today, and have drank about 3 ounces of the colloid. I am also drinking a lot of hot water with lemon and ginger. While rinsing with the colloid, I try and keep it in my sinus for a longer period so that it can go to work on whatever might be in there. I am also taking gauifenesin as an expectorant to get the mucus out and flowing (so it is not as thick as usual). This may help in the cleansing process.
Now one other possibility is a slight infection of the lungs. It may be causing the (nasal fart), and may be the reason why ENTs can't find anything. There is something called a nebulizer which I may purchase, it gets the colloid into the lungs. There is definitely a lot of evidence that shows the mucus of a lung infection can smell really bad. Also, not all lung infections fill with liquid or pus.
If you go to www.silversinus.com it has good info
Ya, I actually just found a whole bunch of scientific research.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/scientificstudies.html
WIkipedia.com claims that there is no evidence as to its effectiveness, but they do not back that up with anything... Amazingly there is a lot of evidence. Its like its trying to be hidden for some reason.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/scientificstudies.html
WIkipedia.com claims that there is no evidence as to its effectiveness, but they do not back that up with anything... Amazingly there is a lot of evidence. Its like its trying to be hidden for some reason.
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The guy noticed he was turning color, yet he continued to use the silver. It might even be a big lie from the pharmaceuticals, who knows. But indeed, there is a safe way to use it.
I only used it for one day, so can't really offer much advice on it. I wanted to stop the rinses cause I figure it was proliferating the odor. I am taking a break from the rinses while using anti-biotics out of desperation. Right now I am taking Flagyl, and just start Cipro today. I started taking flagyl yesterday and this morning for once there was no odor from the mucus at the back of the throat, but there is still nasal odor.
So either it takes time, or it is something else. I went to the ENT, and he didn't see anything. So I am looking at many possibilities, one of them is issues with the liver.
I only used it for one day, so can't really offer much advice on it. I wanted to stop the rinses cause I figure it was proliferating the odor. I am taking a break from the rinses while using anti-biotics out of desperation. Right now I am taking Flagyl, and just start Cipro today. I started taking flagyl yesterday and this morning for once there was no odor from the mucus at the back of the throat, but there is still nasal odor.
So either it takes time, or it is something else. I went to the ENT, and he didn't see anything. So I am looking at many possibilities, one of them is issues with the liver.
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ElGrizzle there's been other threads in the past year discussing biofilms in the sinuses. Doctors will soon cease prescribing antibiotics altogether for sinusitis because the general outcome is no different whether antibiotics are taken or not. Antibiotics alone are simply unable to deal with biofilms once they have built up to a certain thickness and for the other processes that allow them to take hold in there. Also, if i remember correctly, they can evade detection with usual scanning systems (xrays and CT scans, but there is one type of scan which can see them, i'll have to find out). Personally, I think this is what is going on with these nasal odours. Biofilms in the sinuses are like that jelly stuff that grows in drainpipes and water systems. And how many times do we hear people describing their odour along those lines. Also the way some of you describe the release of their odour and the nature of that, sounds like its coming from the sinuses.
Also, the very fact of what i've just mentioned there offers an explanation why this problem is so stubbornly holding on, even after all the things that everyone has tried. How the symptoms started too, seemingly out of nowhere. I know I keep saying this, but biofilms do answer a LOT of questions and make sense of many grey areas.
Also, the very fact of what i've just mentioned there offers an explanation why this problem is so stubbornly holding on, even after all the things that everyone has tried. How the symptoms started too, seemingly out of nowhere. I know I keep saying this, but biofilms do answer a LOT of questions and make sense of many grey areas.
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I just found this from mayo clinic information:-
"Many bacteria and fungi are able to form a Saran wrap like coating over the colony of organisms which protects the colony from antibiotics. In addition, it conveys additional resistance to antibiotics. If a bacterium is part of the colony, it has a greater degree of resistance that if it were outside of the colony (called a planktonic organism). Unfortunately, when cultures are performed, the planktonic organisms are often the ones which are collected for culture, and, as a result, the sensitivity of these organisms may not represent the sensitivity of the majority of the organisms causing the infection. Although the concept of biofilm is relatively new in medicine, it is dealt with all the time in regard to dental disease. The act of brushing your teeth or removing plaque removes biofilm. Current techniques of removing biofilm involve surgical removal, irrigation with a 1% soution of Johnson's Baby Shampoo, use of tea for irrigation or the use of Sinufresh. None of these techniques have been clearly established as the best means of treatment, and the side effects are unclear"
So like toothbrushing, so far the only way is through physical removal. Interesting ingredients in there, dont try those without doing more research tho.
"Many bacteria and fungi are able to form a Saran wrap like coating over the colony of organisms which protects the colony from antibiotics. In addition, it conveys additional resistance to antibiotics. If a bacterium is part of the colony, it has a greater degree of resistance that if it were outside of the colony (called a planktonic organism). Unfortunately, when cultures are performed, the planktonic organisms are often the ones which are collected for culture, and, as a result, the sensitivity of these organisms may not represent the sensitivity of the majority of the organisms causing the infection. Although the concept of biofilm is relatively new in medicine, it is dealt with all the time in regard to dental disease. The act of brushing your teeth or removing plaque removes biofilm. Current techniques of removing biofilm involve surgical removal, irrigation with a 1% soution of Johnson's Baby Shampoo, use of tea for irrigation or the use of Sinufresh. None of these techniques have been clearly established as the best means of treatment, and the side effects are unclear"
So like toothbrushing, so far the only way is through physical removal. Interesting ingredients in there, dont try those without doing more research tho.
I have also tried taking colloidal silver orally but to no avail.
I completely agree with halitosisux that stubborn smells like halitosis are caused by the activity of the bacteria forming biofilms in the mouth, throat and sinuses.
I use special cleaning agents ( won`t mention the tradename ) that are the only way to break the biofilm in my mouth. And the results are awesome - no reactions at all for a couple of hours - until I eat something (especially containing sugar). Then the baceria are fed and produce the foul smells again.
Antibiotics do not work for the elimination of biofilms. I took fluconazole and that helped greatly to remove the white coating of the tongue and the sectertion from the sinuses, but obviuosly biofilms are not affected by it.
Wonder what leads to the forming of biofilms?
I completely agree with halitosisux that stubborn smells like halitosis are caused by the activity of the bacteria forming biofilms in the mouth, throat and sinuses.
I use special cleaning agents ( won`t mention the tradename ) that are the only way to break the biofilm in my mouth. And the results are awesome - no reactions at all for a couple of hours - until I eat something (especially containing sugar). Then the baceria are fed and produce the foul smells again.
Antibiotics do not work for the elimination of biofilms. I took fluconazole and that helped greatly to remove the white coating of the tongue and the sectertion from the sinuses, but obviuosly biofilms are not affected by it.
Wonder what leads to the forming of biofilms?
I have always suspected that these cellular tests that the commercial bad breath merchants rely on to prove their odour killing toothpastes and mouthwashes are based on the wrong assumptions.
I remember hearing something similar on BBC that colonies of bacteria are formed within the bile or mucous that form almost micro-communities that are very hard to break down and isolate.
Therefore producing some isolated bacteria on a slide and introducing a substance that may kill that bacteria in those isolated circumstance does not automatically transfer to the human mouth/digetive tract as they would like us to believe.
I remember hearing something similar on BBC that colonies of bacteria are formed within the bile or mucous that form almost micro-communities that are very hard to break down and isolate.
Therefore producing some isolated bacteria on a slide and introducing a substance that may kill that bacteria in those isolated circumstance does not automatically transfer to the human mouth/digetive tract as they would like us to believe.