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[Godisthere]

Hello fellas,

I'm a 26 years old male who has been suffering from halitosis for almost 14 years. The problem started when I was 12, I noticed that I have a bad breath ( room filling shit / sewage / ( FART ) breath as I discovered later on ) like most of us, from the reactions and straight forward statements in my face. Anyhow, I'm not gonna elaborate on this matter as I think we all know and share the same painful story.

I'm seeking your help regarding my case in hopes to find some real answers and solutions ( Esp. after I read about the ppl who cured their stinky breath ).

I went to a dentist who told me that my teeth and gum are in excellent condition, and I kinda blv him cuz I truly blv that the smell isn't coming from the mouth, tho I have a metallic taste and most of the time when I rub my gums or teeth and smell my finger, the smell is bad. Great to mention that I have a whitish / yellowish layer on my tongue, and some bubbles at the end of the tongue.

After that, i went to an excellent ENT surgeon, who examined the ENT area and told me after the CT scan and some checks ( Had Helicobacter pylori and barium reflux test NEGATIVE ) that I have to do the Sinuses because 50% (4) of them were infected badly somehow + the nasal septum. He told me that I have a red thingy on the top of my throat and stated that smokers get that ( I was actually a heavy smoker at that time). I like also to add that when the problem first appeared, I had some sort of small yellowish stinky balls coming from the inside, and from what I read, I think it's coming from my tonsils. That was just at the beginning when I was 12, but after 2 years, I didn't see them again, tho they might be there but not coming out. ( Doctors told me that my tonsils are fine )

I did that 1 year ago to no avail, did a CT scan and everything was clean but the smell somehow got just a ( bit ) better, a bit. I couldn't smell myself in the past but now I can to some degree ( I mean the shit smell ). I also have lots of mucus and something is stuck in my throat for most of the time. I smell bad smells in my nose too ( mostly a silicon smell ), and by silicon I mean that product that they use to seal the edges with ( doors, sinks etc etc ). I have dizziness sometimes even when I'm sleeping ( yes, dizzy while sleeping and I get up slowly and stay for like 10-15 sec for the dizziness to go ), and when I get up in the morning, my nose is full of mucus.

After all of this, I went to a Gastrologist and the last step was to do a 24 PH manometry. Done that before 3 months and the result was I have a small amount of reflux and it's absolutely not the cause of the smell according to my doctor. My shit smells really bad and the smell which is coming out of my mouth ( or inside to be specific ) is the same smell which is coming out from my ass. I did several upper endoscopes before and nothing was wrong, everything is healthy. My digestive system is bad, that's about it.

I don't know if I'm forgetting anything, but please feel free to ask questions or say whatever you like regarding this matter.

Thank you for taking the time to read this wall of text.

[halitosisux]

Have you tested for parasites?

[Godisthere]

Have you tested for parasites?

Hi there,

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Can you elaborate please ?

[halitosisux]

Find out about intestinal parasites.
It's quite common even in "developed" parts of the world. They can cause a multitude of symptoms which may take years to develop. If you read about some of the symptoms, almost every one of them has the potential to cause bad breath.

Diagnosis is through stool testing. Treatment is through medication.

Here's a list of the 14 most common symptoms. You may have none or all of them.

1) Constipation
Some parasitic worms are actually large enough to physically block the passage of nutrients and waste at certain points in the digestive system. Severe parasitic infections in the bile duct or the intestines can make bowel movements difficult, leading to worsened symptoms of constipation.

2) Diarrhea
Another common symptom of parasites, is the development of diarrhea, or frequent, loose, watery stools. Many parasites produce a prostaglandin that leads to a sodium and chloride loss in the body. This in turn can causes diarrhea. This process is especially true in the case of protozoan infection.

3) Gas and Bloating
Parasites that live in the upper small intestines can cause intestinal symptoms such as inflammation that leads to gas and bloating. Frequent occurrences of gas and bloating are classic signs of a parasite infection. The discomfort is aggravated by the consumption of hard to digest foods such as beans and non-organic meats.

4) Irritable Bowel Syndrome
One of the more common symptoms of parasites, is irritable bowel syndrome. It is not uncommon for IBS to be caused by an intestinal parasite, because they can dig in and attach themselves to the intestinal wall. This often causes irritation and inflammation that can in turn lead to muscle spasms, intestinal blockage, and a malabsorption of nutrients. Fatty substances in particular can be difficult to digest.

5) Joint and Muscle Aches
Intestinal parasites can also move and migrate throughout the body. It is not uncommon for them to become encysted in joint fluids or even in the muscles themselves. This causes pain, aching and irritation that are often mistaken for arthritis. Joint and muscle pain can also be caused by the body’s own immune system response to the parasite infection.

6) Anemia
There are several types of parasites that attach themselves to the lining of the intestines and divert nutrients away from the human body. In severe infections, these parasites can lead to blood loss sufficient enough to cause anemia.

7) Allergies
Intestinal parasites cause irritation and inflammation. This in turn can make it difficult to digest certain types of foods. The body’s response to these undigested food particles may be to produce increased levels of eosinophils, which are one of the body’s immune system defenders. These eosinophils then inflame the body’s tissue and cause an allergic reaction.

Skin Conditions
Intestinal parasites can cause the release of hormones and immune system defenders that can in turn irritate the skin. Hives, rashes, weeping eczema, and other allergic reactions are common with intestinal parasites. Protozoan infections can also cause ulcers, swelling, sores, lesions, and dermatitis.

9) Tumors
The body may develop a tumor like mass in response to the parasitic infection that is also known as a granuloma. The tumor is developed to encase parasitic larvae or eggs. Granulomas most often develop in the colon or on the rectal wall, but they are also found in the lungs, liver, peritoneum, and the uterus.

10) Nervousness
Intestinal parasites release waste products and other toxic substances into the body’s system. In chronic or severe parasitic infections, these toxins may irritate the central nervous system resulting in restlessness, nervousness, and anxiety. These are all common symptoms of parasites in your body.

11) Sleep Disorders
Intestinal parasites can cause irritation that can disturb sleep patterns making it difficult to fall asleep and to stay asleep. In the night, the body works to eliminate toxins via the liver. Parasitic infections can interrupt this process and upset the rhythms of the body. In fact, some parasites may try to migrate out of the anus at night causing itching, discomfort, and irritation.

12) Teeth Grinding
This symptom of parasite infection can also cause a condition known as bruxism, or the abnormal grinding, clenching, and gnashing of the teeth. This condition occurs most often at night, and it may be linked to the restlessness and anxiety caused in the body by the parasite’s release of waste and other toxins.

13) Chronic Fatigue
Parasites can exhaust and deplete the body, on physical, mental, and emotional levels. It can lead to the mal-absorption of protein, carbohydrates, fats, and vitamins, draining the body of both nutrients and energy. As a result, another common symptoms is the development of chronic fatigue, with symptoms such as exhaustion, aches, apathy, depression, difficulty concentrating, and impaired cognitive ability.

14) Immune Dysfunction
Oftentimes, when you have a parasite living inside of you, it will leech vital nutrients from the body, forcing the immune system to operate with a poor supply of vitamins, minerals, and energy sources. Parasites also stimulate the production of immunoglobulin A, which is a defender against foreign substances. Over time, this over stimulation can exhaust the body’s supply of immunoglobulin A, leaving the body susceptible to attacks from bacteria, yeast, fungus, virus, and other foreign invaders.

[Godisthere]

Hey,

I don't know if I'm following, but I did a stool examination, but nothing.

Tho most of the symptoms you mentioned I have, but still I don't know what's wrong with me. The smell is just coming from the inside and I don't know from where

[halitosisux]

Might be worth finding out what the stool examination was for. In order to test for intestinal parasites, you need to be specifically tested for it.

[Godisthere]

Might be worth finding out what the stool examination was for. In order to test for intestinal parasites, you need to be specifically tested for it.

I blv that intestinal parasites test is to be initiated by a Gastroenterologist, right ?

And can you please tell me what to do now after the intestinal parasites test ?

I mean, I want a list of possible things or checks I need to do in order to narrow the cause. You have read my post earlier, and I blv that you have a good idea about what I have done / not done.


P.S: the stool test was to check for any bacteria that might be present.

Thank you dude for responding.

[halitosisux]

You should go back to your doctor. Take a list of your symptoms. If you'll be mentioning your BB, then try to take someone along with you who admits to being able to smell your BB.

[Godisthere]

You should go back to your doctor. Take a list of your symptoms. If you'll be mentioning your BB, then try to take someone along with you who admits to being able to smell your BB.

I actually did that. Took a list of all of my symptoms to all of my doctors with one of my best friends present. Guess what ?

Ya, what you are thinking exactly. They told me that I'm affecting my friend with all the ideas I have inside my head to the degree where he believed it.

Despite the several operation I did, the reply was always the same, neglect the problem and move on!

I also know all the symptoms, tried several medicine for the reflux etc etc,plus the diet, but no positive results.

I came here because I want help. I know doctors can't help me, we all do.

[halitosisux]

I fully understand you.

People who have never endured this shit have no idea how serious it is to the sufferer. Even your friend thinks it's so minor that you are making a fuss over "nothing".

But there's only so much that you can do for yourself. And there's only so much a forum can do.

Doctors can help you, if you can manage to point them in the right directions, by knowing as much about the problem as you can.

[Godisthere]

I fully understand you.

People who have never endured this shit have no idea how serious it is to the sufferer. Even your friend thinks it's so minor that you are making a fuss over "nothing".

But there's only so much that you can do for yourself. And there's only so much a forum can do.

Doctors can help you, if you can manage to point them in the right directions, by knowing as much about the problem as you can.

So you have nothing to share regarding my situation, Hali ?

[halitosisux]

If you mean with regards to intestinal parasites, then yes, you need to see a doctor and get the right tests and rule this out.

[Godisthere]

If you mean with regards to intestinal parasites, then yes, you need to see a doctor and get the right tests and rule this out.

Other than that ?

[halitosisux]

Could be relating to your sinuses still, if, as you've mentioned, you had bad infections there in the past.

Google "odour when I sneeze" and see whether this might relate in some way to the odour you seem to constantly have without sneezing.

I've never seen an explanation for what this sneezing odour is, but it can sure stink a room out, and this can happen without having any other noticable symptoms usually associated with sinus infections. Maybe something is stuck up there, or fungal growth has managed to take hold in the perfect dark damp moist environment of the sinuses.

[Godisthere]

Could be relating to your sinuses still, if, as you've mentioned, you had bad infections there in the past.

Google "odour when I sneeze" and see whether this might relate in some way to the odour you seem to constantly have without sneezing.

I've never seen an explanation for what this sneezing odour is, but it can sure stink a room out, and this can happen without having any other noticable symptoms usually associated with sinus infections. Maybe something is stuck up there, or fungal growth has managed to take hold in the perfect dark damp moist environment of the sinuses.

Well, I don't have that. I mean, my sneeze does have a smell, but it's the saliva smell which stinks because I have BB, but it's hardly noticeable.

The thing is, after I drink ( especially, mostly and ultimately WATER ), I smell what seems to be like dirty socks for a short period of time ( like 10 mins then it disappears ). Could you elaborate on that ?