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Biofilm bacteria

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One Day
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Biofilm bacteria

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Some of you might find this interesting, it's about bacteria and how incredibly hard to kill some forms can be. There's quite a bit in this link about biofilm bacteria in the mouth.

http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/26/biofilm/
As Lewis mentions, perhaps the most well-studied biofilms are those that make up what is commonly referred to as dental plaque. “Plaque is a biofilm on the surfaces of the teeth,” states Parsek. “This accumulation of microorganisms subject the teeth and gingival tissues to high concentrations of bacterial metabolites which results in dental disease.”[12]

It has also recently been shown that biofilms are present on the removed tissue of 80% of patients undergoing surgery for chronic sinusitis.
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Post by One Day »

There's a lot to read but some parts are very interesting and could be possible answer for some of us?
Effectively targeting biofilm infections

Although the mainstream medical community is rapidly acknowledging the large number of diseases and infections caused by biofilms, most researchers are convinced that biofilms are difficult or impossible to destroy, particularly those cells that form the deeper layers of a thick biofilm. Most papers on biofilms state that they are resistant to antibiotics administered in a standard manner. For example, despite the fact that Ehrlich and team discovered that biofilm bacteria cause otitis media, they are unable to offer an effective solution that would actually allow for the destruction of biofilms in the ear canal. Other teams have also come up short in creating methods to break up the biofilms they implicate as the cause of numerous infections.

This means patients with biofilm infections are generally told by mainstream doctors that they have an untreatable infection. In some cases, a disease-causing biofilm can be cut out of a patient’s tissues, or efforts are made to drain components of the biofilm out of the body. For example, doctors treating otitis media often treats patients with myringotomy, a surgical procedure in which small tubes are placed in the eardrum to continuously drain infectious fluid.

When it comes to administering antibiotics in an effort to target biofilms, one thing is certain. Mainstream researchers have repeatedly tried to kill biofilms by giving patients high, constant doses of antibiotics. Unfortunately, when administered in high doses, the antibiotic may temporarily weaken the biofilm but is incapable of destroying it, as certain cells inevitably persist and allow the biofilm to regenerate.

“You can put a patient on [a high dose] antibiotics, and it may seem that the infection has disappeared,” says Levchenko. “But in a few months, it reappears, and it is usually in an antibiotic-resistant form.”

What the vast majority of researchers working with biofilms fail to realize is that antibiotics are capable of destroying biofilms. The catch is that antibiotics are only effective against biofilms if administered in a very specific manner. Furthermore, only certain antibiotics appear to effectively target biofilms. After decades of research, much of which was derived from molecular modeling data, Marshall was the first to create an antibiotic regimen that appears to effectively target and destroy biofilms. Central to the treatment, which is called the Marshall Protocol, is the fact that biofilms and other Th1 pathogens succumb to specific bacteriostatic antibiotics taken in very low, pulsed doses. It is only when antibiotics are administered in this manner that they appear capable of fully eradicating biofilms.

In a paper entitled “The Riddle of Biofilm Resistance,” Dr. Kim Lewis of Tulane University discusses the mechanisms by which pulsed, low dose antibiotics are able to break up biofilms, while antibiotics administered in a standard manner (high, constant doses) cannot. According to Lewis, the use of pulsed, low-dose antibiotics to target biofilm bacteria is supported by observations she and her colleagues have made in the laboratory
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Post by halitosisux »

This is why ENT doctors dont wanna know. They know too well this type of infection can take hold inside the sinuses and sometimes they'll operate and physically remove it/wash it out, but they wont take bad breath as a serious enough reason to do it, only a physical problem like pain and other more "serious" complications.

I think its likely, having researched on this subject quite extensively in the past, that many on this site with nasal BB have this type of sinus infection.

It is a fact that sinus infections apparently cause the very worst kind of BB, of the room-filling variety. And it is known that some people produce the most horrendous odour only when they sneeze - its bound to be coming from up there, but maybe for them they are fortunate in that the odour only escapes when they sneeze as the sinus passages open up from the force.
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Post by ruch »

I am curious about this protocol.

http://mpkb.org/
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