Albertus41 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:56 am
Hi everyone,
First of all, I apologize if it appeared that I was doing advertising for the clinic of doctor Nunes. That was not my intention.
Second, now I go to explain my personal experience and the advantages and disadvantages of this clinic.
Disadvantages: Not only I don't have cured, but also the result of the tests mark that I have halitosis level one (on a scale of 1 to 5). I was really disappointed and I demanded to repeat the tests. At that moment, I thought something had come off badly. And I thought like Jimi: "this doctor ripped me off". Another disadvantage is that this doctor relies on antibiotics too much at least for the time.
Advantages: Thanks to gas chromatography and the bacterial culture, now I know what I have in my mouth: bacteria and other substances. This fact helped to guide me and focus on looking for more specific information related to my problem.
Another advantage is that the humane treatment was always excellent, you can feel he listens to you and interests in your problem. Is true that this clinic is not cheap, but I only paid the first time.
What does the doctor found in my mouth?
Microbiological study:
Solobacterium morei Detected
Streptococcus Salivarius Detected
P. gingivalis Detected
Prevotella intermedia Detected
Tannerella forsythia Detected
But also:
He found digestive substances in my mouth: indole and skatole. These substances are produced in the intestine when bacteria decompose tryptophan and gas chromatography cannot detect them.
Jimi, when I wash my mouth thoroughly, I feel the flavour and the odour of these substances: indole and skatole, due to they are in my saliva, always.
It's possible the silent reflux throws these substances to my throat and my mouth or can be I secrete saliva with indole and skatole because the mucus at all of the digestive system is related, in other words, if your system digestive doesn't work correctly, your saliva won't be clean.
My faeces give off an unspeakable odour. This odour isn't of intense shit or rotten egg. It's an odour of death. Moreover, my faeces are softer than normal and stain the WC.
When I go to Barcelona, I have many questions and suggestions for the doctor. Nunes isn't God, there are halitosis cases nobody is able to cure. It is about looking for a solution together. For me, that is the most important. He told me if antibiotics don't work, there were other alternatives and for that reason, I go to Barcelona again.
If you have money I recommend you taking gas chromatography and the bacterial culture to know what you have in your mouth. You can try to soliciting only the test and look for other clinics where you can take it. It doesn't have to be this doctor, I imagine you will have more options if you live in the USA or UK.
Some companions in this forum recommend medical tests to try finding out what is the cause of halitosis. Some of them think they have a genetic problem and for that reason, they have too much sulphur. If you take gas chromatography, sulphur has to be detected because is CVS, and even they would tell you what is your halitosis level on a scale of 1 to 5.
I have halitosis level 1. Under this doctor, people cannot detect my halitosis, but they detect it. Why? Because I don't stink of sulphur, I stink of other substances that the gas chromatography machine cannot detect. For that reason, the doctor use informers who will check the patient's breathing during treatment. In my case, my wife, my brother, my parents, don't detect my bb, but I didn't know some people don't detect bb and I came to believe that I had cured.
If I am going to the psychologist is because my wife thinks I have halitophobia and she thinks the psychologist will convince me the problem is only in my head. I want to buy your book since I found this forum, but if I do my wife will know and will think I am crazy. It's logical she thinks this because she doesn't detect my odour, or my family, and the result of the tests show my halitosis is undetectable.
For that reason Nunes recommended I go to the psychologist because my informers told him I hadn't bb. I live in Spain and his clinic is in Barcelona but I have to drive one thousand km to his consultation. For that reason, after he took me samples the first time, we saw each other online for monitoring.
But when I went to see him, he detected face to face my bb and he said my bb is not intense but we had to eliminate it.
Now, I know because my family or my wife don't detect my problem, and now I know what I have to say when I return to see the doctor.
But also, God is laughing at me because my psychologist doesn't detect my odour too. It's crazy. He took tests to convince me I have halitophobia. One of them consisted in that I had to carry to the consult three small bottles filled with different substances and he had to guess by smell what substances were. I filled a bottle with water clean (odourless), another with my wife's perfume, and the last with water dirty of WC. I was amazed when he couldn't smell anything, and he was amazed too and he was worried.
When I return from Barcelona, I will tell you all. Don’t worry Jimi, I have spent 800 euros in this clinic, and so, if the treatment is based on antibiotics only, I myself will tell you it’s a fraud.
All the very best to everyone!
Regards.