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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:18 am
by never_bn_kissed
Hi Drastic and Snobuni,
It sounds like for you guys that even after brushing the tongue and scraping it, the white coating remains?
From my little reading so far, the white coating is the main cause of bb for most people, and if your coating remains that could be the real source of your problem.
Have you tried the breezecare range? Its a bit expensive, but thus far, its the only thing that consistently removes the white coating for me, so worth the price. I have noticed a decreasing effectiveness (people touching the nose and what not), but it just means I have to brush my tongue harder and longer and more often (3x a day now). It used to bleed a biti but not anymore.
fyi i brush my tongue with the gel, scrape, wash with the balance rinse and brush the tognue again...it usually leaves my tongue fairly pink, at least for a good few hours
edit: i also wanted to say that apparently, the breezecare stuff is not as harsh as the CHLORHEXIDINE mouthwash
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:47 am
by halihope
Snobuni I am following VIVA's advice, she dips tongue brush in the chlo... to avoid staining teeth and also she said she did it for two weeks strait and then just as needed.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:44 am
by Larc400
never_bn_kissed wrote:
edit: i also wanted to say that apparently, the breezecare stuff is not as harsh as the CHLORHEXIDINE mouthwash
Except, of course, Breezecare is also using Chlorhexidine

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:15 am
by never_bn_kissed
Larc400 wrote:never_bn_kissed wrote:
edit: i also wanted to say that apparently, the breezecare stuff is not as harsh as the CHLORHEXIDINE mouthwash
Except, of course, Breezecare is also using Chlorhexidine

hahaha, well maybe i'd best read properly and think before i post then aye

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:53 am
by Larc400
I've swallowed my pride and yet again placed a Breezecare order (last time was a few years ago)
This time: the powder & the tongue gel.
I'll let u all know if it's all a pile of bullshit

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:07 pm
by Snobuni
Hey Never Bn Kissed,
I think my bb is definately coming from my tongue coating, but then isn't this coating just a symptom of another problem (lack of good bacteria in stomach/mouth, poor digestion, yeat infection, etc)? I've tried all the different types of gels, rinses and toothpastes over the years. If Breezecare is just chlorhexidine, how will that be any better than the corsodyl I'm using just now (Corsodyl is also very cheap)!!!
I did notice last night that my bb was the worst it's ever been, I could still smell it even when I was eating and just after, it's NEVER been like that before. But then before I went to bed, I rinsed with corsodyl and the smell was instantly so much better.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:09 pm
by never_bn_kissed
Guys,
I think the key is to use things in combination - stack up the benefits from all of them, cause our mouths are just so retarded that it needs to be fought from all angles.
So i think you need to brush and scrape the tongue to remove as much as you can of the coating, then the chlorhexidine to act as a bomb blast to the remaining bacteria, then populate with k12 to put up a good (albeit very temporary) fight against the bad bacteria living in the throat and nose. I think its only by doing this and removing as much as possible and then using the k12 as another level of "attack" that we could stand temporary relief
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:54 pm
by tiredofcrying
what is k12?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:23 pm
by prey
Snobuni wrote:Hey Never Bn Kissed,
I think my bb is definately coming from my tongue coating, but then isn't this coating just a symptom of another problem (lack of good bacteria in stomach/mouth, poor digestion, yeat infection, etc)? I've tried all the different types of gels, rinses and toothpastes over the years. If Breezecare is just chlorhexidine, how will that be any better than the corsodyl I'm using just now (Corsodyl is also very cheap)!!!
I did notice last night that my bb was the worst it's ever been, I could still smell it even when I was eating and just after, it's NEVER been like that before. But then before I went to bed, I rinsed with corsodyl and the smell was instantly so much better.
Do you have pnd?
My tongue is white because of pnd.When i brush with a tongue scraper alot of sticky mucus comes off.
Now i only need to figure out where it comes from.
Prey

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:53 pm
by Snobuni
Prey,
I don't know if I have PND. I don't have a stuffed up nose all the time or loads of mucus up my nose, but I do have a deviated septum and I have a blocked nostril if I don't use a steroid nasal spray. I have thick saliva though, and my ENT said I have an extremely dry mouth. Nothing I do helps with increasing saliva though, I drink 2-3 litres of water a day, suck on sugar free sweets or ice cubes and use artificial saliva, but it doesn't make much difference.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:22 am
by Larc400
When did this thick saliva thing start for you? Is it a side-effect of medication, or has this been going on for long? My saliva is very glue-like and it's been like that for a long time...
Humans have two types of saliva: serous (thin & runny) and mucous (thicker, stickier), which come from different glands...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salivary_glands
Serous saliva comes mainly from Parotid glands - maybe we have a problem with those?
Also, during anxiety and stress, the saliva becomes less serous - and this is what is felt as a drier mouth.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:15 am
by Snobuni
My saliva has been thick for as long as I can remember, nothing seems to increase it at all.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:10 pm
by rich1988
could bb be down to infected/swollen glands at least in part? because my glands have been swollen for a long time and some times the glands underneath my jaw get painful lumps on them which i assume must be infection?, saying that the bb comes from my tongue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:10 pm
by Larc400
Don't know, you should check with your doc next time they're swollen. Maybe what you feel are lymph nodes though, and not salivary glands. Still, you should check it out...
What does your tongue smell like?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:20 pm
by rich1988
I think I have tonisilitis at the moment as I have a really sore throat but it smells kind of like yoghurt thats going off

its not terrible today thankfully