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***k, I am so angry, teeth are bothering me again, only after 5 days of raw.

This is just amazing, I will have to give up on raw again for god sake.


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Jimi wrote:I am on raw again, for the forth time. The only thing that will prevent me are teeth again. I think I already feel sentisitivity coming back.

Are you mixing greens in your smoothie, and you have to drink a lot of water each day. Just gulb the water down. I drink like 3 litres and I see my teeth are better I think.

Other than that, I feel much better. The clue this time is drinking a lot of water and high caloric food. Like Durian each day, that has like 800 calories. But still I think the teeth sensitivity is coming back, and in fact enamel will chip off again I am afraid. I can't do without teeth I think.

What you can do is juice greens and drink, drink, drink. Good luck, I think we are predisposed to sensitive areas of our mouth because or BB.
But I feel good for now.
how many days u r raw this time Jim?
Durians ?? ACHKK ! i can try it yet. i see them frozem ah the asian store but i hear they smell up the house read bad . I would hate to add to my stink :? Maybe one day . Even Durianrider barely eats them . My main calories are from free bananas and soaked raw nuts . But my bigest volume of food is from Greens ,but they are very low calorie ,just super hi minerals and Chlorophyll which deodorizes and detox the body .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goz6MQX5Q60 this lady uses Any edible greens for her smoothies for her family and makes it sweet with fruit . I stated to do this now. I add asperigus , celery ,frozen peas, artichokes ...Anything that is green and add fruit and /or stevia to make it taste awesome . I make sure to rinse my mouth after . i eat anything. No tooth issue in months .

Jimi , please keep us informed how your teeth are doing ,and your raw diet and BB. For me ,it seems like people can get closer and closer . BB is not gone but for sure its better . Soon i will get some tests to see if I am deficient but I feel very healthy right now . :D
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@deebo I am grad that your bb reduced raw diet does wonders in this. at least for me it works very well. Unfortunately I dont have insurance and the moment and cant afford seeing a doctor, I can keep up with the diet but I have two big issues: my teeth and lack of energy sometimes.
You know..I cant eat enough because it costs me a fortune if I eat lots of fruits/ veggies /nuts everyday.
Somedays I eat a piece of whole bread just to fill myself.One thing that I noticed is that when I eat 100% very strict raw I have a better feeling after a few days but when I eat a little crappy thing in between even a soy milk contained a little suger, the day after it I feel bad.

I also have osteoarthritis in my knees from years ago and the last couple of months the pain is killing me, my knees deformed so bad that I feel embarrassed to wear leggings.That is scary. I am currently taking Calcium/vitamin D and glucosamines for like the last 3 months but no improvements yet.
I am also taking 1,2 eggs on the weekend (I noticed when the egg yolks are raw they have little bad effect on my breath)...I did some research on teeth /bone issue I found an amazing book about it,it is an old book which is rather famous, according to it, old generation of Eskimos women had very healthy teeth/bones even after many children and they mainly ate fish and natural food.So I decided to add some fish oil tablets to my diet and see what happens. I will post if I see any result.I cant think of anything more at the moment.
I think raw diet cures our bb or at least controls it very well but maybe some of us need to complete it with some other foods , we should try and see what works without causing bb worse.
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Who the hell wants to go thru life eating raw food. That is disgusting. There has got to be something else. :(
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amo wrote:Who the hell wants to go thru life eating raw food. That is disgusting. There has got to be something else. :(

how about every other living creature of the planet. You are welcome to research and list recommendations,helps and cures. Raw food is Far less disgusting than your Breath and troll posts so far .
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@clara maybe you could email or become friendly with your local grocers and get the "overripe" fruits from them . this is basically how I get all bananas(main calories)and other stuff http://claspics.com/810/817996/1313435923-359.jpg.php . I personally never eat bananas until they are browning (more good sugar),and the really brown ones ("rotten")are awesome in smoothies,but u'll never buy them at any store. U could post a craigslist "wanted" ad for fruits and veg. Theres often lots of folks with garden surplus even in bad weather areas .Maybe barter your skills for them . Are there Food banks is your area? Go there for free produce that will otherwise be in the trash. =(

I just found out about the raw low calorie bodybuilder diet, it is Very interesting to me . I think the main idea is high probiotics and enzymes ,so very few nutrients go undigested . Also very little energy is spent in digesting food. It looks cheap too. Maybe a good way to not get skinny and weak while raw. Soon I will do more inquiry and research on this but there are many youtube guys doing it successfully . Personally I think deficiencies come mostly from an inability to digest nutrients . Like TMAU and other issues.

Do you mean the Weston A Price book? To get the nutrients from fish the way Eskimos did and thrive ,they used All parts of the fish ,usually raw or/and fermented . There are folks doing the 'primal' or 'paleo' diet that eat raw and fermented meat and organs of animals . For now I'm sticking with fruits and veg .=) .

I really think the raw fruit diet can not be expected to work unless you are eating enough . This can lead to a Host of deficiencies and only make current one worse .
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I admire how your bb has not crippled you socially and you are still getting around talking and meeting new people. I feel so caged in I barely want to leave the house to go to the store let alone talk to anyone. I wish I could overcome the fear of offending people by my bb and just talk to them butt it seems I can't.

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Raw food diet is surprising good if you like lots of fruits and veggies like I do but I also like meats and fats too and weak and lethargic without them. #-o
a better choice for me is the candida diet where I can eat all the fats and meats I want as well as veggies and eventually fruit can be slowly incorporated back in just avoid carbs, simple sugars, fermented foods (vinegar, alchol,etc) and diary. there are alternatives diets that may help if you can't live raw just do a google search.
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I think the solution is in juicing, just buy a juicer and juice veggies, dark green leaf veggies. that is how you will get the minerals for your teeth

i think that is a solution

I am not ready for raw yet, now I am on raw for like 6 days I think , the bb reduced, not sure how much, but still very much present.

I need a juicer, but it is not time for me to start juicing because I dont have my own appartment. Dragging big juicer with me is a horrible idea. So I suggest you star tjuicing and your teeth problems should go away. Juice at least 1 liter per day. Use carots, celery, dark greens......no lemons and acids please
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Jimi wrote:I think the solution is in juicing, just buy a juicer and juice veggies, dark green leaf veggies. that is how you will get the minerals for your teeth

I need a juicer.....
I juice with my blender and a paint strainer . I get WAY more juice . Regular juicers Waste too much juice and Cost too much . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k
Maybe using a straw ,so the juice will not touch your teeth . Do you and clara take probiotics and digestive aids ?? Could be getting a deficiency from not breaking down the raw food. eating all the minerals in the world won't help if you don't digest them . But need a test to be sure . Could just be acid.

I don;t know just what I did this time to avoid teeth issues , just eating lots more food plus daily exercise at work . I am actually gaining some size back now. I added more nuts and raw fats... and guess what .. I got tonsil stones !! I haven't had 1 in over a month . I will go back off nuts and fats. Soon i may get the tonsil lazered shut.
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i just stopped today, i got really bad reactions from people, i said ***k that, at least i will eat good.

I had to do some medical tests. I will get back to raw in the future, but yes stick with it. Nature give you this food, we ***k it up when we cook it, that is why we are all sick so much.

I just need to plan my raw diet, need a calm place where i can rest, because it will be a long long process.

but I think I will be the last to be cured on this ****ing shitty site, because god just likes to ***k with me and set me as example or a ****ing bad ****ing breath saviour. What a ****ing life role. Thank you god.
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hali_grl wrote:..... I feel so caged in I barely want to leave the house to go to the store let alone talk to anyone. I wish I could overcome the fear of offending people by my bb and just talk to them butt it seems I can't.
oh believe me grl , i've had s-anxiety far b4 i knew about bb. BB for sure alters the way i interact to the point of neurosis but we cant add insult to injury by beating our selves up like we did something wrong. Gotta try .

I was thinking the other day how someone could/should really write an interesting ,unique story or film about someone(s) with chronic bb and how their world is. People see it as this trivial thing that is easy to fix if we " just brush ,floss ,gargle" :idea: Like we don't ? The story could show how its commonplace to think the obvious fixes will help. It would illustrate the fact that people spread rumors about someone with bb like it will help. But will never simply tell the person "you have bad breath dude 8)" .Think about how long it took many to find out about thier BB . It took my years to get the hint . The film would point out the illogical human condition of the smeller and smelly . And of course the film would not give a cure unless is a dream sequence maybe. I've had those dreams .
Any writers out there ???
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deebo
the film you envision is far to surreal to be a character based film i think a documentary "Life with Halitosis" would be a great idea to show everyone that we are not just ppl who dont brush our teeth or care about our hygiene. that infact most of us have better oral hygiene than them bc of the lengths we'll go to improve our bb odor. it should show how we are socially, emotionally, and sometimes spiritually crippled because of our affliction. sounds like a good idea!

*now all we'd have to do is find the brave soul who can be around us 24/7, lol! :lol:
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@ deebo
Actually I live in a very small town, I do not know if there is a food bank here... I will search for it, I used to take probiotics but I stopped because when I was on raw diet I realized that they do not have much effect. The raw food does it far more better than any probiotics.
Since I am leaving the country in a short time I cant buy any stuff like a juicer etc at the moment. I am going to meet a dentist just to check my teeth if there is no damage I will continue being raw and I tolerate the weakness . You know my friend told me a root canal here costs 5000 sek (790 $) !!! I am just praying my teeth pain goes away by itself.

@haligirl,
I know how you mean by feeling like being in a cage, I feel the same. I moved to my new place a few weeks ago and I had been on the raw diet and bb free the whole time, today when I had bb my neighbor was looking at me like she was shocked by the odour...and I am a shy girl in general I felt REALLY embaressed. I am just staying in my room all the time and going to the kitchen at late night or very early morning to avoid people and more embaressment....when I remember like 8 yrs ago when I was bb free and my bf was kissing me all the time and telling me I have a sweet breath I feel heartbroken.
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clara0 wrote:@ deebo
...I used to take probiotics but I stopped because when I was on raw diet I realized that they do not have much effect. The raw food does it far more better than any probiotics.
i would say just the opposite . I think this is the main principle with that "low calorie raw vegan bodybuilder diet" . Probiotics make it possible to get everything out of raw food . Without Digestive aid ,raw foods can pass through us without feeding us much. Leaving us weak with deficiencies . Sounds familiar .
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[@deebo

Actually the brand I bought recently contains suger that was why I stopped it, I should switch to another one...and also I hate being dependent on probiotics for bb reduction.
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