Halitometer readings

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:25 am

Wow, I've never seen anyone do testing with gas chroma for bb. This is so much more detailed than the old-school halimeter.

So what was the suggestions to stop the Dimethyl Sulfide (from the blood)?

How much would it cost a non-Dutch doing that?

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:34 am

john wrote:last year i was also tested whith a conventionel old halimeter and it gave exact the same score.

When you say you got the same score with the conventional halimeter, do you mean you got 75?

I've had everything between 80-450 with the old halimeter, it's just no way to tell what compound is the biggest source...

john · Post by **john** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:47 am

How much would it cost a non-Dutch doing that?

I think you can make an oppointment at the hospital even if you are from sweden or england. it cost 180 euro for about 45 minutes.

So what was the suggestions to stop the Dimethyl Sulfide (from the blood)?

They didn't no how to stop dimetyl sulfide rising from the blood.

When you say you got the same score with the conventional halimeter, do you mean you got 75?

Yes, with the old halimeter i had also a reading of about 75, and also only dimetyl sulfide was present then. So if someone knowes how to get rid of dimetyl sulfide from the blood i would be very happy!!

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:26 am

john wrote:
When you say you got the same score with the conventional halimeter, do you mean you got 75?

Yes, with the old halimeter i had also a reading of about 75, and also only dimetyl sulfide was present then. So if someone knowes how to get rid of dimetyl sulfide from the blood i would be very happy!!

Maybe that's the case with a lot of us

. How did they determine it was dimethyl sulfide with the old halimeter? Whenever I did it (I even borrowed one) there was only a total score of all gases, so I couldn't tell which one was contributing...

You should ask them to investigate *why* you have it in your blood. Could it be some problem with digestion or with the gut lining? They should send you to someone who can check this out...

Do you have only bb? If it's in the blood, maybe it comes out in other parts too (via perspiration etc)?

OneDay111 · Post by **OneDay111** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:17 pm

Larc400 wrote:
john wrote:
When you say you got the same score with the conventional halimeter, do you mean you got 75?

Yes, with the old halimeter i had also a reading of about 75, and also only dimetyl sulfide was present then. So if someone knowes how to get rid of dimetyl sulfide from the blood i would be very happy!!
Maybe that's the case with a lot of us . How did they determine it was dimethyl sulfide with the old halimeter? Whenever I did it (I even borrowed one) there was only a total score of all gases, so I couldn't tell which one was contributing...

You should ask them to investigate *why* you have it in your blood. Could it be some problem with digestion or with the gut lining? They should send you to someone who can check this out...

Do you have only bb? If it's in the blood, maybe it comes out in other parts too (via perspiration etc)?

Ok i dont have a clue wats going on but that dimethyl sulfide is dangerous

loook

"A man was found dead in a tank where gaseous dimethyl sulfide (DMS) was present. The concentrations of DMS in the blond and tissue samples were measured by gas chromatography. Mice were experimentally exposed to various concentrations (5%–55%) of gascons DMS in a confined space and the course of death and DMS distribution in the bodies were observed to obtain diagnostic criteria for DMS poisoning. As a result it was considered that the cause of death of the victim was consistent with a combination of DMS poisoning and asphyxia due to a hypoxic atmosphere."

john · Post by **john** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:13 pm

the 9th of june i will see the docter again and they will do another reading with the oral chroma machine.

i will also ask him if the problem is digestion.
i think its only in my blood.

baguio · Post by **baguio** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:52 pm

Look forward to hearing what the outcome is. A bit of new ground here as this particular aspect not discussed on the forum before to the best of my knowledge..(?)

dimethyl sulfide (DMS), a gas that contributes to cloud formation and thus to climate cooling presumably, a dark black cloud!

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:22 pm

Breakthrough! I found this report, also from Holland:

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Intra- and extra-oral halitosis: finding of a new form of extra-oral blood-borne halitosis caused by dimethyl sulphide.

Tangerman A, Winkel EG.

Department of Periodontology, Academic Centre Oral Health, University Medical Centre, Groningen, The Netherlands.

AIM: The aim of this study was to unravel the origin and cause of intra-oral and extra-oral halitosis. We studied 58 patients complaining of halitosis, using gas chromatography of volatile sulphur compounds (VSCs) in mouth and nose breath, organoleptic scoring of mouth and nose breath, Halimeter readings of mouth air and tongue-coating inspection. Subjects had no precence or history of periodontitis.

RESULT: Of 58 patients, 47 patients had halitosis of oral origin, six had halitosis of extra-oral origin and five had no halitosis (halitophobia). A strong correlation was found between the degree of intra-oral halitosis as measured by organoleptic scoring of mouth breath and the concentration of the VSCs hydrogen sulphide (H(2)S) and methyl mercaptan (CH(3)SH) in mouth breath. Taking into account the much larger odour index of CH(3)SH, it was concluded that CH(3)SH is the main contributor to intra-oral halitosis.

In all six cases of extra-oral halitosis, halitosis was caused by the presence of elevated levels of dimethyl sulphide in mouth and nose breath.

CONCLUSION: Our study provides evidence that the VSC, CH(3)SH and to a lesser extent H(2)S are the main contributors to intra-oral halitosis and that dimethyl sulfide is the main contributor to extra-oral or blood-borne halitosis, due to a hitherto unknown metabolic disorder.
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So it would be a good idea if more of us could find out if dimethyl sulfide is the cause of our bb. In that case, this 'unknown metabolic disorder' is the cause. Maybe there are clinics in other countries too, who can offer gas chromatography for bb patients..?

(I have the full version of the above article ... let me know if you want it)

emotional rescue · Post by **emotional rescue** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:15 pm

anyway to contact this guys to get some feedback??

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:08 pm

Working on it...

baguio · Post by **baguio** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:00 pm

This => http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 71,00.html <= was being discussed on the radio on the way home from work this evening. As if this disorder wasnt bad enough in its own right - without impending heart problems!

lastone69 · Post by **lastone69** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:35 am

Here is an article about using the gas chromatography to distinguish between mouth air and alveolar air (lung). I wonder if they have found out the cause of the foul alveolar air.
http://www.separationsnow.com/coi/cda/d ... d=3&page=1

jc · Post by jc » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:05 am

Is the dimethyl sulfide being produced by bacterias in the gut?
If so, then maybe we should get treatment similar to SIBO.

jc · Post by jc » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:40 am

"dimethyl sulfide is a climate cooling gas"

maybe our bb is nature`s way of countering global warming.
i hate to say this but our suffering have a purpose after all.

Mico · Post by **Mico** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:13 am

jc wrote:maybe our bb is nature`s way of countering global warming.
i hate to say this but our suffering have a purpose after all.