Mastic good enough for Harems and it seems to be working!

[CyberchndriacNot]

report on mastic experimentation -

not certain with how much it helps with breath. there's less fecal smell on my floss, for sure. but i can still smell it on my breath. mouth feels cleaner, doesn't taste as bad. the metallic taste is dramatically reduced. i think that metallic weird odor is gone or significantly reduced as well, but fecal odor is still there, sometimes smelling stronger than usual even. but as i've mentioned before it seems to hvae helped my sinuses a bit, so i don't know if my sense of smell has improved because of it and that's why i smell the fecal odor more.

I also think my sense of smell and taste has improved. I am hyper sensitive to other people's smells around me maybe because I'm wondering if it's my breath that smells or is it others but I've also noticed that all of a sudden any food I put into my mouth has an intense flavour. My husband has been impressed by its antibacterial/fungal/biotic properties so he started using it in the same way I do for his sinuses. (He's never had BB.) He believes that the mastic is not helping his congestion, but i think otherwise. He has not resorted to his usual sprays which I haven't pointed out to him yet! We'll give it a few more days and reassess. Last night when I spoke to the locals who use tree resin medicinally, they indicated that its used to stop mucous production, clear phlegm from the nose, throat and lungs.

it is possibly upsetting my stomach a little. i get a feeling of being hungry all the time, and then it becomes heartburn. so i'm a little concerned about that.

I haven't experienced this. I drink lots of water. So I'll have a glass before I drink the mastic.

i've been sucking on it, chewing the goo after steeping it in hot water/herbal tea. and sipping the liquid most of the day when i'm home. it's not so much that i mind having the mastic on my breath - but that i'm having that smell on top of bb.

It might not be a cure, but a way of controlling it.

cyber, has your husband confirmed that you're bb-free from the mastic?

He says that he cannot smell it - I've now had 4 mornings in a row without the fecal smell on my breath. My students are also not flinching which is a positive sign. Before the TT, I could never lean over them. Whether it's there or is just being controlled, I cannot answer atm.

[CyberchndriacNot]

waiting and cyber: How are your tongue colors ? Is there any reduction on the white coating ?

I don't think there's been any change. It's still coated with a very light white coating.

[CyberchndriacNot]

I have just ordered a small bag of the Chios mastic from this on line greekshop http://ecoclub.com/shop

Great, I hope it works for you. Keep reporting your observations here so that we can make comparisons.

Can you describe your breath?

[waitingforrelief]

remember i said that some mastic got stuck at the bottom of a pan and i coudln't get it off?

that resin must be strong stuff. because i have already cooked with that pan 2-3 times, but i can still taste it in all the food that i've cooked in this pan. and even smell it on my breath after.

have been smelling all sorts of odors the last two days. today i've been alone most of the day in my apt and kept suspecting if i'm emitting new smells. not everything smelled like bb - but it was quite distracting and just a little disconcerting.

kept smelling the fecal smell - but i don't know if i am smelling it on my breath or in my nose. stomach keeps bothering me - gassy and heartburn. so i didn't take much today. only a blob in a cup of nettle tea and that was it.

cyber, could you share what your daily routine with mastic is? how much mastic water do you drink? how much gum do you chew etc??

[waitingforrelief]

one more question, cyber - does the tic-tac size mastic that you talked about actually melt in your mouth after you've sucked on it for a while? mine doesn't really melt and i'd just end up chewing it like gum.

[noptical]

The only thing it says on the box is "chios mastic".
"Mastiha" in Greek is just another word for "chewing gum" although its not used very frequently. We call the mastic "mastiha chiou" which is translated as "chios mastic".

great to hear that wfr, please let us know what the ENT will tell you.

oh so what i bought is chewing gum? but when i put it in my mouth, it doesn't really taste like gum either. in fact, without boiling first, it tastes really bitter, now i realize. and it'd get stuck to my teeth so much that it's a bit impossible to eat.

can you tell me what people do in greece with it?

I have no idea Its not really widespread, I only know that there are mastic chewing gums.
Here's what wikipedia says:

Mastic resin is a relatively expensive kind of spice, used in liquors (mastica alcoholic drink) and chewing gum pastiles. It is also a key ingredient in dondurma, a Turkish ice cream, and Turkish puddings granting that confection its unusual texture and bright whiteness. It was the Sultan's privilege to chew mastic, and it was considered to have healing properties. Mastic is also used for pastry making, drinks, baked goods, chewing gum, cosmetics such as toothpaste, and lotions for the hair and skin and perfumes. It is also used in preparation of Turkish Delight.

In its refined form it is also used as the primary ingredient for toothpaste, shampoos and perfumes. People in the Mediterranean region have used mastic as a medicine for gastrointestinal ailments for several thousand years. The first century Greek physician and botanist Dioscorides wrote about the medicinal properties of mastic in his classic treatise De Materia Medica ("About Medical Substances"). Some centuries later by Markellos Empeirikos and Pavlos Eginitis[3] also noticed the effect of mastic in the digestive system.

[CyberchndriacNot]

remember i said that some mastic got stuck at the bottom of a pan and i coudln't get it off?

that resin must be strong stuff. because i have already cooked with that pan 2-3 times, but i can still taste it in all the food that i've cooked in this pan. and even smell it on my breath after.

I don't think the stuff I'm using is as strong as yours. The one I've got has a subtle woody, teatree scent. For comparison's sake, it's definitely not as strong as teatree or eucalyptus oil.

kept smelling the fecal smell - but i don't know if i am smelling it on my breath or in my nose. stomach keeps bothering me - gassy and heartburn. so i didn't take much today. only a blob in a cup of nettle tea and that was it.

Keep listening to your body and cut it right out if you're experiencing heartburn or other unpleasant experiences. The stuff you've got might be very concentrated.

cyber, could you share what your daily routine with mastic is? how much mastic water do you drink? how much gum do you chew etc??

OK, I haven't really got into a routine yet because I'm trying out all sorts of things. But for the last two days I have tried drinking approx. 1-2 tablespoons of the resin's essence (resin soaked in boiling water and left to stand overnight) before going to school and have only been taking mastic gum to school just in case I feel my BB coming back. 8 hours later I drink a herbal tea with a mastic lump in it. Before I teach in the evening, I'll do the same as my am dose and then again at night before I go to bed. As my BB seems to be under control I haven't needed to suck on the resin. The essence 3 times a day seems to be doing the trick. I have also chewed the gum at least once in a day.

[CyberchndriacNot]

one more question, cyber - does the tic-tac size mastic that you talked about actually melt in your mouth after you've sucked on it for a while? mine doesn't really melt and i'd just end up chewing it like gum.

It doesn't melt - it slowly dissolves i.e. the outside layers slowly disintegrate as the saliva comes into contact and starts to moisten it. I can't really chew it as it's too hard. As it dissolves it leaves a residue on the teeth, which also dissolves eventually. I'm starting to wonder if your mastic has different properties to mine because it sounds as if it's very strong - I mean if anything can stick to your pan and still smell of it 2 - 3 uses later it must be very strong. In the same way maybe it's not coming off your teeth as quickly as mine.

Anyway waiting, how's your morning breath? Do you think it's any better? I always knew when I had toxic BB not because I could smell it, but because I always had a warm feel with a thick gaseous texture waft out of my throat and mouth. I suppose I've had the benefit of having this sense about what my body was doing reinforced by my BB tester. It's hard to describe this feel, but I wonder if my internal temperature was slightly raised and if the thicker texture is related to the gas compounds being produced? I can only guess, but this is how I picture it. Anyway, all I know, is that since I've been using this tree resin, the thick gaseous texture has disappeared, my throat is cool and my husband is taking delight in the new me!

[yuckykat]

I have just ordered a small bag of the Chios mastic from this on line greekshop http://ecoclub.com/shop

Great, I hope it works for you. Keep reporting your observations here so that we can make comparisons.

Can you describe your breath?

I'll try to describe it but i am Italian,it is always there,the taste can change from fecal to sour,have a PND since the BB started and a burning sensation in my throath which never goes away.I do not have to ask other people about my breath..I can taste it all the time.I have stuffed sinuses at all times,nothing had helped me.Since my problem all started with PND and sore throat,I definitly think my BB comes from my sinuses and troath. Ten years ago I had 2 wonderful years BB free and I did not have PND and sore thoaths anymore.Now I having a parasite cleansing and I am going to have a colon cleansing soon to try to get rid of the mucus I have in my head. I have been on probiotics lately,they did help a bit,I would say they lessen the BB by 30per cent...but the effect looks like i wearing off.

[waitingforrelief]

I don't think the stuff I'm using is as strong as yours. The one I've got has a subtle woody, teatree scent. For comparison's sake, it's definitely not as strong as teatree or eucalyptus oil.

mine has a similar scent. weirdly tho', a colleague asked me if i just used bounce (the fabric softener) today. I know he'd meant the mastic, but i didn't want to say anything about that. i didn't know how i could say that i had this thing called mastic stuck to my mouth. so i know for sure that my breath smells like it, whether along wiht bb or not.


OK, I haven't really got into a routine yet because I'm trying out all sorts of things. But for the last two days I have tried drinking approx. 1-2 tablespoons of the resin's essence (resin soaked in boiling water and left to stand overnight) before going to school and have only been taking mastic gum to school just in case I feel my BB coming back. 8 hours later I drink a herbal tea with a mastic lump in it. Before I teach in the evening, I'll do the same as my am dose and then again at night before I go to bed. As my BB seems to be under control I haven't needed to suck on the resin. The essence 3 times a day seems to be doing the trick. I have also chewed the gum at least once in a day.

i haven't tried to soak the resin overnight - will do it tonight.

about my stomach - just have been getting hungry a lot. it sort of makes sense because it does kill bacteria in the stomach. whatever it is doing, my stomach is adjusting. so i'll try fo a while longer to see if i'd feel worse/better.

[stinky]

A 1985 study by the University of Thessaloniki discovered that mastic can reduce bacterial plaque in the mouth by 41.5 percent ((Tassou CC, Nychas GJE. Antimicrobial activity of the essential oil of mastic gum (Pistacia lentiscus var. chia) on Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria in broth and in model food system. Int Biodeterior Biodegrad 1995;36:411-20. )

[waitingforrelief]

i don't know how to do this quoting thing... this paragraph is not a quote of cyber's but mine.


mine has a similar scent. weirdly tho', a colleague asked me if i just used bounce (the fabric softener) today. I know he'd meant the mastic, but i didn't want to say anything about that. i didn't know how i could say that i had this thing called mastic stuck to my mouth. so i know for sure that my breath smells like it, whether along wiht bb or not.

[waitingforrelief]

one more question, cyber - does the tic-tac size mastic that you talked about actually melt in your mouth after you've sucked on it for a while? mine doesn't really melt and i'd just end up chewing it like gum.

It doesn't melt - it slowly dissolves i.e. the outside layers slowly disintegrate as the saliva comes into contact and starts to moisten it. I can't really chew it as it's too hard. As it dissolves it leaves a residue on the teeth, which also dissolves eventually. I'm starting to wonder if your mastic has different properties to mine because it sounds as if it's very strong - I mean if anything can stick to your pan and still smell of it 2 - 3 uses later it must be very strong. In the same way maybe it's not coming off your teeth as quickly as mine.

Anyway waiting, how's your morning breath? Do you think it's any better? I always knew when I had toxic BB not because I could smell it, but because I always had a warm feel with a thick gaseous texture waft out of my throat and mouth. I suppose I've had the benefit of having this sense about what my body was doing reinforced by my BB tester. It's hard to describe this feel, but I wonder if my internal temperature was slightly raised and if the thicker texture is related to the gas compounds being produced? I can only guess, but this is how I picture it. Anyway, all I know, is that since I've been using this tree resin, the thick gaseous texture has disappeared, my throat is cool and my husband is taking delight in the new me!

yea it takes a LONG time - like hours for the stuff to come off my teeth. and it's still stuck to my pan . there was a spoon that i'd used to try to melt the mastic at the beginning, and i can't get it off of the spoon either. stuck to it like glue.

i think "something" is better with my breath. like i said, the bad taste is definitely not as bad, and i haven't been able to smell that metallic weird pungent odor ever since i started taking it. but i smell the fecal odor a lot. i just am not sure if it's inside my nose or if it's coming out of my breath. re morning breath, i don't totally know. some mornings i wake up and i can smell it heavily. some mornings i simply don't smell anything. i totally know what you mean by that warm wafty, thick feeling. i have that most of the time. it also feels heavy even in my lungs. when salivarius (a strain of probiotics) helped me, i noticed that the feeling was gone immeidiately - liteally within like 15 mins. it was pretty amazing. i felt so light, so normal, for the first time. that's how i even knew that what i was feeling was related to the breath and that it's not entirely normal.

i still def have morning breath throughout the day. one thing i've stopped doing is irrigating my nose which seemed to have some effect on the breath, maybe. perhaps i should keep doing that.

by the way, the colleague who commented on the bounce scent this morning - he was at lesat 3-4 feet away from me at the time, and he could smell the mastic on my breath. which made me wonder how far my breath usually spreads, and what is a "safe" distance for me to put between myself and others.

[Busted]

which made me wonder how far my breath usually spreads, and what is a "safe" distance for me to put between myself and others.

This is really hard to tell. It seems to travel like a gust of wind and seems to hit persons randomly. But I think 6-7 feet should be a safe distance depending what way u look at and how loud you're talkin. I mean if u talk with your head facing the ground, I don't think anyone will smell it, but it's rude and that really sucks.

[CyberchndriacNot]

OK, awoke this morning with BB! Sigh ! I could feel it and my husband confirmed the worst. It wasn't strong, but it was there.

It's so hard to describe the sensations, tastes and smells in writing - I know I haven't been making myself clear, but I have been doing my best to get the detail in. Waiting, I think I know what you have been taking. This morning, I thought I would try some resin from another packet and in contrast to the other stuff, I found it to be soft and smooth in texture and it instantly turned into a chewing gum mass. It is milky in contrast to the other resin which is transparent and it sticks to ypur teeth big time!!! Now I know what you mean. I mean it literally fills in every gap in your teeth so you end up with a big mass of white and you can't scrape it off. It tastes so bitter and I think rather unpleasant. I also felt that it covered my BB, because I could still fell BB undertones. I proceeded to floss and the fecal smell between my teeth was putrid. The BUGS were BACK! Is the effect of the resin wearing off and are the bugs becoming more aggressive and mutating to keep hold of it's host??? Do I need to step up the resin taking to fight these voracious critters? After flossing and whilst still chewing this very sticky mass, I asked my husband what he could smell. This time he couldn't smell any BB and only the mastic. I've now got a major ptoblem though as I have to try to get rid of this sticky resin plastered on my teeth!

I have decided to suck on one of those translucent resin peices (the size of 4 tic-tacs) and see if that can hold the bugs at bay for a few hours. I'll take some more pieces to school. I'm teaching at uni tonight so I'll report back after that.