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Deeply impacted wisdom

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Hey all,

So I just came from a consultation w/the oral surgeon and altho my last wisdom teeth sometimes flares up and bothers me-he is recommending that I just leave it alone. He showed me the x-ray and said that the root of the tooth is too close to a nerve and he could wind up breaking my jaw or crushing my nerve trying to get it out. Has anyone had this experience? Do you think this tooth could be contributing to my bb? I didn't think so since it was so deeply impacted in the gum but I'd like to hear others experiences. He said that we could do two things-1) go ahead with the surgery and take the risks or 2) just take antibiotics when it gives me trouble again (this won't solve the problem but just prolongs surgery)

What should I do? HELP?!?!


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Post by halitosisux »

Hi smelly cat,
Does this tooth which you say flares up ever have foul discharge from the gum around it?
If it doesnt then its probably not worth the risk of extracting it, but you can always return to try this as a last resort if there are other areas you can focus on for the time being.
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It hasn't been bothering me lately halitosisux, but I do smell a foul odor coming from that area when I put my finger on it and smell it. I'm almost certain that this isn't how my bb started but I do believe it's contributing to the problem. Do you think I should get a second opinion or just let it go as the dentist is suggesting?
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Post by halitosisux »

Hi,
What makes you think this isnt how your BB started?
Your situation could be like mine - i had BB before my wisdom teeth started coming out, but now i know it was because of poor oral hygiene and unrelated to the cause which kicked in around the age of 15 when i can remember my wisdom tooth starting to erupt and the breath comments started coming in and i started becoming really conscious of it.

Even if you didnt have any detectable odour coming from any impacted wisdom teeth, i would still advise anyone to have these potentially problematic and unnecessary teeth removed. But when you can smell odour coming from any, then i would advise you to make it your absolute priority.

Does your dentist know about your BB? If so what do they think regarding these teeth as potential causes?
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Post by smelly cat »

Hey halitosisux,

Ur right I don't know that it's not how my bb started. And I haven't discussed my bb with the dentist. I'm always too embarrased to do that. Anyway I am thinking of getting a second opinion. The tooth is actually starting to erupt now but surprisingly it's not hurting. Today a little while after I ate, I put my finger back there and it really smelled. I guess now it's worse because now that the tooth is erupting, there's a little pocket forming and food is getting stuck in there. The dentist told me to leave that tooth alone-but do you think he'd feel differently if he knew it was erupting now. I dabbed a q-tip with peroxide and rubbed it on the area. That stopped it from smelling horrific for now, but I can't go thru the rest of my life like this. I will probably see another dentist and see what someone else has to say about it. This is really scaring me. I want this tooth out of my mouth like nobody's business, but I'm so scared of them hitting that nerve or breaking my freakin jaw. I seriously don't know what to do #-o That dentist has me scared to death!! I'll let you know how it goes when I see another dentist.
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Post by halitosisux »

You should see another dentist and try to find the courage to mention BB with them, its no big deal. When i first mentioned it to my doctor he joked and asked me if im getting married! But looking back i was so wrapped up in myself i never thought to talk about it indirectly like that, but from then on i always did and its a lot easier when you do this because most of the embarrassment is the fact its such a personal issue, but when you show that its not YOU who is personally bothered about the BB but its OTHERS who made you seek help its a lot easier. I did this once with a dentist and pretended to be resentfully there because my "girlfriend" forced me to go, and it felt as easy as mentioning toothache. I think dentists are much harder to speak to than doctors or specialists, especially when they dont even shut the door for privacy or they have young female assistants who smile as if they fancy you, and then they have to listen to you talk about your shit breath.

Maybe your dentist is just trying to deter you from what he sees as unneccessary work? Especially since he doesnt even know about your BB problem. Nerve damage and complications are always a risk with wisdom teeth, but nerve damage is usually only temporary numbness.

I noticed you said the tooth is beginning to erupt, but remember that even a tooth which is still completely below the gum can cause BB because it is peeling away the gum from the tooth next to it as it tries to come out, leaving a very ineffective seal between the "outside" and the "inside" and bacteria get in and foul discharge gets out. Believe me, from my own experience i dont think it takes much foul discharge from a gum or a rotten tooth to infest a tongue and whole mouth out.

If you are young (<25), then your tooth should come out easily and if its necessary the tooth will be broken up and taken out in pieces, only an asshole is going to be so reckless that your jaw ends up breaking. Best thing is to get other dentists opinions. Good luck.
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Post by smelly cat »

hey hali,

thx for all your advice. i tried to make another appt with another oral surgeon, but i need another referral from my primary care dentist. Rather than go back and explain the situation to them, i just called the oral surgeon that i saw back. so i have an appt to get it pulled next week. i pray that everything goes off without a hitch :-&

on another note, now i have a dull ache in my upper jaw with occasional stinging around my eye. i read on some internet sites that it could be sinus infection also. Do you think this could be related to the wisdom tooth? Anyway-I'll let you know how it goes after the extraction. keep ur fingers crossed.
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Great news about the extraction. Everything went well-no broken jaw or nerve damage [-o< . So that's a blessing. Now the only thing is this vicoden is making me puke all day :( .
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Post by halitosisux »

Good to hear that smelly cat, glad it went well and thanks for the update.. good luck and i hope to hear more good news from you soon.
I never saw your previous response, so i'm sorry for not not responding.
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Post by OneStep »

hi smelly kat. id like to know if urs worked out? do u still have BB or the extraction of ur wisdom is also the answer?

i went to my EENT today and he found out i have enlarged lingual tonsils. so i hope this might be the cause for my bitter/rancid taste in my throat.

im also thinking of going to a periodontist too to see if i have gum dse and oral surgeon for my impacted wisdom teeth. my EENT said i have to wait and see for the one month treatment im on now (just meds and nasal spray).

so im just wonderin if the extraction worked for u? coz if this EENT thing is not working (i hope it works though), my next step is to the periodontist and oral surgeon.

ive went to my denstist and he removed the gums covering my widsom; but it's still the same, the bitter'rancid taste. so now im to my EENT. i have to wait if this works.

if not, then wisdom extraction...

did it work for u cat? how bout u halito? im a newbie here by tthe way :)
thanks...
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Post by halitosisux »

Hi OneStep,

Were you ever able to detect foul odour with your finger around the area of this gum your dentist removed? If so are you still able to detect any?
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Post by childishpet »

Impacted teeth should be removed as soon as possible. Because it can be dangerous for your health.
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Post by smelly cat »

Hi Onestep,

In essence I would have to say that getting the wisdom tooth removed did not solve my bb problem. Although I'm pretty sure it was contributing to it in some way as halitosisux says there was a foul odor coming from that area when I touced with my finger. So even though I wind up getting a dry socket and the hole took forever to close up, I don't regret going through it. Anything that helps to eliminate even a tiniest bit of mouth odor is totally worth it to me. I am now suffering from post nasal drip or some kind of sinus issues along with dry mouth. My doctor told me to use biotene for the dry mouth but I don't really know if it's helping the smell. It does help my mouth from being desert dry.

I would say to go for it. As there is not enough research done on people with chronic halitosis, it seems our only cure will come from the process of elimination. I wish you luck!!
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Post by halitosisux »

Smelly Cat, well done. You are going the right way by the process of elimination. Glad to hear it helped. I just read over the whole thread and I didnt realise you mentioned the pain in the upper region too and the dull ache from your sinuses and stinging round your eye - you should get this investigated too. Ask for a thyroid test (and any other related tests) too because this can cause chronic thirst. Good luck.
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