Bad Breath Halitosis Forum

The furthest memory of having bb is when I was in grade 2-3 and I was playing with clay-play doh with my brother and upon making a small turd (boys!) he added, "Hey! we can have you blow over this and say it's the stink"! After that I was aware that I had horrid breath. Even my parents would tease me in a way. Then I remember in 5th grade I was playing around with my best friend and we were making faces at one another with our foreheads in contact (which I can never think of doing nowadays!!) and I remember her saying, "ooohhhh your mouth smells". I also remember nights when I would stay up and brush my teeth as long as I could thinking that would clear it up with my father eventually telling me to go to bed! During occasions I'd scrub myself and shower and come out smelling heavenly but to no avail as , as soon as I would open my mouth, I'd smell this horrible stench which would make me feel like getting all dressed up had no use at all if my mouth stunk that bad. The stench never did go away.

How do I know I have bb for sure? I can smell it! On days I feel like I dont smell that bad or use hydrogen peroxide (when it used to work) I blow air onto my sister's face and ask her and she says I smell fine but on days I know I stink to high heaven(which is most days) I do the same to her and she yells out "eeyyucckkk" and runs away (she's about 14 so I dont feel embarrassed about it with her).

But one thing I do remember is I have these 2 molars which have fillings in them. I remember getting them filled when I was around 7 and I didn't really pay much attention to oral hygiene other than a few tries of brushing all night to get rid of the stench. I'm 21 years old now and I still have bb and no love life. All my friends and family wonder why I'm still single but I'm too embarrassed to tell them the real reason (I've become a pro at masking bb and keeping it to myself) so I just tell them I haven't found the right guy.

My wisdom teeth have grown and while the upper 2 seem to be perfectly healthy and in good positions, the lower 2 are partially erupted and have gum flaps over them. But I don't think they're what started bb because I've had bb before my wisdom teeth even grew out. What I'm wondering is could my two filled molars be the cause? I rarely visit the dentist and when I do they do not find anything bad other than plaque and tartar. The 2 teeth have wide fillings so now I'm wondering if the smell could be coming out from somewhere amongst them. I've decided to visit a dentist either way. I'm a particularly quiet/ reserved person (NO surprise why there !) so I was wondering if you guys could help me come up with questions I could ask my dentist. Like ask them to see if anythings wrong with my teeth? Mention bb. I have a feeling they're going to ask me get my lower wisdoms removed due to the gum flaps.

I've tried almost everything else like most of you guys have. True, I don't have the kind of bb that could fill up a room but mine is detectable when you're close so, yeah. On top of people making fun of you for your big nose and acne (in my case- have it all going for me, don't I?) , you certainly dont need them calling you a stink-mouth!

By the way, I've those metal fillings and I've been reading a lot about them on here about how they cause candida and stuff.
Should I ask my dentist to remove them and put on the white stuff instead?

Khaadi wrote: I've tried almost everything else like most of you guys have. True, I don't have the kind of bb that could fill up a room but mine is detectable when you're close so, yeah. On top of people making fun of you for your big nose and acne (in my case- have it all going for me, don't I?) , you certainly dont need them calling you a stink-mouth!

I kaadi, this is my reply in another post

I,as all of us, are at the research of the light after years of tribulation. You give me the opportunity to clear some aspect of canida many of us are unaware.

As you said few person are cured from candida. This could be true, because candida has his is origins. One of the most important is Dental Amalgam. Mercury in the amalgam seems to generate candida, not only, lately some specialist stated that without rimoving amalgam it's impossible to cure sistematic candida.


The Connection between Mercury Fillings and Candida
A book called "The Yeast Connection" written by Dr. J. Trowbridge, reports that some doctors who specialize in treating candida have found that at least 98% of their chronic candida patients also had much higher than average levels of mercury in their systems.
from
http://hubpages.com/hub/Mercury-Fillings-and-Candida

We already know that Candida Albicans, a yeast-like organism in the human body, is there to help control harmful bacteria. Another one of its jobs, however, is to fight mercury and other heavy metal toxins in the body. When there is an abundance of mercury in your system, Candida Albicans grows frantically, attempting to eliminate the mercury., it's the reply of our body to heavy metal that poison our body. This results in candida overgrowth which in turn creates numerous additional health issues.

from http://www.articlesbase.com/alternative ... 81422.html

So what's the solution?
Replace your metal amalgams by seeing a qualified holistic dentist. Follow a cleansing protocol made to eliminate both metals and Candida from the body. The key is to remove the source of the heavy metals first however. Heavy Metals and Candida go hand in hand and until you address the heavy metal issue in your body you cannot expect to see results with eliminating Candida.


Goggle "mercury teeth candida" to find a lot of information. Everyone of us is a pioneer in some manner, because candida is not yet accepted as a form of disease from ufficial medicine. When someone of us goes to their ent to cure BB generally recive a load of harmfull antibiothics, but indeed, we can cure candida removing its roots without chemical help

some link
http://www.cfspages.com/fire.html
http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/me ... oning.html

Be blessed

Khaddi. I was in a similar position to yours. My history of BB goes back to my earliest childhood memories (about 4 or 5). I could go through so many similar recollections and realizations behind so many painful BB experiences. I was picked on by my brother and sister over my BB all the way through my childhood. They kinda instilled a belief in me that I had something wrong which made me stink and feel dirty. I had such a low opinion of myself and this low self-esteem has remained a part of me to this day. And for that reason I just didnt bother brushing my teeth. My parents didnt even care about such things, I wasnt taught about such things. The only time I ever thought about my teeth was when the dentist used to make annual school visits. I'd sometimes remember to brush my teeth for these visits, and all I can remember is being told how awful my situation was and what work needed doing to my teeth.

I think everyone has a certain susceptibility to BB. There are so many factors which might influence this, but primarily I think it depends on the conditions inside the mouth (the ecology) - for instance, the condition of our teeth and gums or our individual oral chemistries. This not only determines the species of microbial flora which inhabit, but also the activity level of each individual species of micro-organisms which takes place. The immune system as a whole is also likely to influence this susceptibility.

This explains why some people can get away with ZERO oral hygiene. And it explains why some people will have BB only if they mildly neglect their oral hygiene.

In my case I've concluded that my childhood BB was a separate issue to my adult BB. Its very easy for a child to develop BB through lack of oral care. Those of us who were taunted during childhood over this will forever hear the echo of those cruel voices. I think that like a lot of children, I had BB because of my oral hygiene neglect. Then in early adult life (when I presume my wisdom tooth situation started to appear) my BB became so bad that my brother told me I needed help. At this point I developed the most impeccable oral hygiene practices, and now I know that if it wasnt for my wisdom tooth, i'd have been BB free from from this point. But no, it took me a further 25 years to realise and deal with this additional cause of BB.

The most important thing keeping an open mind. Its not easy because we develop our beliefs based on the experiences we've all been through and listening to our own bodies. Its easy to lose sight of the facts and end up barking up all the wrong trees. I'm a prime example of this. Until only a few years ago it would INFURIATE me to see anything relating to the teeth or gums as a cause of BB. Yet look how things turned out.

p.s. I hope I've made sense because I had to rush to write this.

Basically the point I've tried to make is that if you happen to be susceptible to BB (as I know I am) then it probably doesnt take much to go wrong for you to end up with BB. Your BB could have multiple dental causes.

One last thing - DO NOT assume that dentists understand about BB. Let me assure you they DONT. The subject isnt even part of dentisty training.

Hi Halitosisux, Thanks for finding time to post a reply. I've been going through posts you've made on here and they all sound sensible and like you know what you're saying. And the fact that your story sounds so familiar to my own made me think that it is high time I paid a visit to the dentist's. Like I've read in previous posts of yours, my BB is gone while eating and a few more minutes after that but later it returns. I have gum flaps over my lower wisdom teeth and a few hours ago, a few minutes after brushing my teeth and tongue, I rubbed the areas of the gum flaps covering my wisdom tooth and the finger had a horrible rotting stench. The trouble is though, like I said I remember having BB even before the time for wisdom teeth came but that could have been due to, as in your case, lack of oral care. So I'm thinking that while the impacted wisdom teeth may not be the sole cause of my BB, it could definitely be a contributing factor to the stench and I'm scared the smell will get worse if I leave the gum as it is. Like you seem to have suggested a lot, I'm going through trying to eliminating BB by getting rid of the possible causes one by one. Thanks for all the info you've provided for the members!

You're welcome Khaadi. Yes, if you havent been to a dentist lately then you should.
I would advise anyone who can detect odour coming from a gum when its rubbed to take it very seriously as an underlying potential cause of their BB.

Please try to forget about whether you had BB before or not. That's the negative rut I ended up getting stuck in, especially after my tonsillectomy, which I was utterly convinced would cure me.

If there is any chance of someone solving their BB problem its going to be purely about a process of elimination. And the one thing you cannot risk overlooking is your teeth and gums. You must ensure that there are absolutely NO DOUBTS on this.

It may well just be a contributing factor. But if you can have something as important as this without realising it, it makes me wonder what else you might have going on with your teeth, particularly as you say its high time you visited a dentist.