I bought this stuff awhile ago when it was a hot topic cure.
I've been rock bottom lately, emotionally.. I feel like giving up.. I feel like I just want some relief from the ache of it..
I'm thinking of just going to the hospital and blatantly saying 'my breath smells like farts every day, and my digestion is fucked up... help me'
Who knows... maybe they'll just prescribe some antibiotics for it as they would usually do for the condition, and it would help me... I dunno... It's embarrassing, and it might not be a good idea.. I might just look like a hypochondriac and though my breath may think, they would assume it's strictly dental hygiene.... But I feel I should do it.... What if they could help me.....
Anyway, before doing that.... I'm feeling rock bottom anyway... I thought I'd bust out the Betaine HCL I ordered awhile back.
This is my second full day on it, and I don't have much to say about it...
I don't THINK I got any major reactions today.. though yesterday I got plenty.. There might have been a couple today but nothing that I can be certain of, without my imagination controlling it. I did however get a bit of a backdraft, but it wasn't the oft poignant fart smell as usual... Though still kinda shitty. ...
I don't often feel heartburn, but on the HCL, eating it after my main meals (4 times a day, cutting the eating back a bit just so I don't overdo the betaine hcl), I do feel a little pain in the chest. Nothing excessive... I haven't felt any ulcer-like pain which I often feel just when I get very hungry after 4 or 5 hours of no food... Though the medicine hasn't helped my hunger. Still hungry. It also didn't do anything for this morning's shit, which was as soft and sloppy as ever.
I don't know if it has anything to do with it.. but I haven't felt as thirsty.
Should this be an aid for me, how long would I expect to have to take it before seeing results, would you say?
Sorry I don't have important info.. Just felt like sharing.
Did anyone here have positive results on Betaine HCL?


2nd Day on Betaine HCL .. Nothing much to report really...
Waking up to burps and upset stomach feeling.... though that happened often before I took the meds.. Still, I can definitely feel an increase in acid activity.
Wonder if it's safe to keep using.
One interesting thing, is that I just took a crap and while my nose is stuffy, I could barely smell anything... Usually it kind of wreaks... Sorry for this, but I even wiped my rear and brought it near my nose.. Smelled faintly of what it smells like to take a whiff of the Betaine HCL bottle.. Funny, because last night I ate potato/rice/egg/cheese... then I ate icecream with a bunch of nuts I crushed up, and some sliced up chocolate truffles someone had given me as a gift.
Could this be a good thing? If acid was my problem before, It's possible this is making my breath twice as bad.... But I'm happy that my poop doesn't even smell much. That's kind of a first really. Man, if I was BB free today I would give the greatest teaching performance this company has ever seen, then I'd take people out for dinner and show them who I really am!
Good day folks, I'm off to the shower, and then to work.
Wonder if it's safe to keep using.
One interesting thing, is that I just took a crap and while my nose is stuffy, I could barely smell anything... Usually it kind of wreaks... Sorry for this, but I even wiped my rear and brought it near my nose.. Smelled faintly of what it smells like to take a whiff of the Betaine HCL bottle.. Funny, because last night I ate potato/rice/egg/cheese... then I ate icecream with a bunch of nuts I crushed up, and some sliced up chocolate truffles someone had given me as a gift.
Could this be a good thing? If acid was my problem before, It's possible this is making my breath twice as bad.... But I'm happy that my poop doesn't even smell much. That's kind of a first really. Man, if I was BB free today I would give the greatest teaching performance this company has ever seen, then I'd take people out for dinner and show them who I really am!
Good day folks, I'm off to the shower, and then to work.
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Thanks Halitosisux! I'm not sure I'm that optimistic about this....
But guess what?
No obvious reactions yesterday, though again, I haven't pushed it yet....
On the Betaine HCL, it definitely increases the acidity of my stomach... I have a lot of little burps throughout the day, usually for a couple hours after taking it and they taste like burps rather than food... If that makes sense....
Also, I think it actually does increase my hunger even further... It's kind of painful, but I haven't been eating as much. Instead of 4 pills yesterday, I took only 3, so I basically skipped a meal's pill in the afternoon. It just seemed like too much. I was gassy, though I don't think the farts smelled, but I was hesitant to let them out in public anyway.
But this morning... Woke up to slightly upset stomach.. Well I go to the toilet, and not only does it not stink, but it was like rabbit turds. It was actually solid. My stomach feels a little uneasy still.
Of course I'm going to keep taking it. I wonder if the extra acid killed some nasty bacteria or something, or maybe it only does it while taking the acid and it would come back when I stop.
Or maybe it doesn't do anything. There was actually a guy next to me on the train .. two seats away.. I heard him say something about smell, and I saw him seemingly covering his nose... But there was some cigarette smell at the itme, and hell, I wasn't taking or breathing much at all... I don't think it was me... I'm not going to take it as a reaction because it wasn't concrete enough. Still, it was annoying. Almost crushed my confidence, but I know better than to take that as evidence against me.
I'm going to teach some nasty little kids today.. Maybe they'll give me good reactions, or lack of.
I have to also consider that the acidity increase makes my breath smell a bit of burps... Which I definitely prefer to farts.
Anyway, I'll keep updated.
But guess what?
No obvious reactions yesterday, though again, I haven't pushed it yet....
On the Betaine HCL, it definitely increases the acidity of my stomach... I have a lot of little burps throughout the day, usually for a couple hours after taking it and they taste like burps rather than food... If that makes sense....
Also, I think it actually does increase my hunger even further... It's kind of painful, but I haven't been eating as much. Instead of 4 pills yesterday, I took only 3, so I basically skipped a meal's pill in the afternoon. It just seemed like too much. I was gassy, though I don't think the farts smelled, but I was hesitant to let them out in public anyway.
But this morning... Woke up to slightly upset stomach.. Well I go to the toilet, and not only does it not stink, but it was like rabbit turds. It was actually solid. My stomach feels a little uneasy still.
Of course I'm going to keep taking it. I wonder if the extra acid killed some nasty bacteria or something, or maybe it only does it while taking the acid and it would come back when I stop.
Or maybe it doesn't do anything. There was actually a guy next to me on the train .. two seats away.. I heard him say something about smell, and I saw him seemingly covering his nose... But there was some cigarette smell at the itme, and hell, I wasn't taking or breathing much at all... I don't think it was me... I'm not going to take it as a reaction because it wasn't concrete enough. Still, it was annoying. Almost crushed my confidence, but I know better than to take that as evidence against me.
I'm going to teach some nasty little kids today.. Maybe they'll give me good reactions, or lack of.
I have to also consider that the acidity increase makes my breath smell a bit of burps... Which I definitely prefer to farts.
Anyway, I'll keep updated.
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Mike, it sounds like it's certainly having some impact - this is the important thing for now because of clues it might be able to give you. So far nothing you've been able to do has been able to bring your digestion to normal, and I know rabbit shit is hardly normal, but it's a change. Don't worry too much about the smell of the shit, I'd actually be concerned if your shit didn't smell, because shit is meant to smell. Most of it is made of bacteria and when it's sloppy it usually tends to smell worse.
I used to suffer with ulcer pains too. I don't know whether these were real ulcers though, but the pain would often have me folded over in agony if I ate or drank anything acidic. I have never tested positive for helicobacter. I think this was all caused by stress and smoking. An endoscopy revealed no signs of stomach/duodenal anomalies.
The way you've always described your odours appearing suddenly like they've burst out from somewhere has always made me wonder whether they might be from your stomach or your sinuses, or perhaps even your ass without realising. The fact that you've had a full endoscopic examination should have ruled out pouches and hernias etc where food could become trapped and stagnate and release odours in bursts. So, there's a good chance that the odours are coming from your actual stomach or possibly rising up from even further down into your small intestine, where they're able to escape via your stomach, especially if hypochlorhydria is causing chronic SIBO.
If you've ever tried to smell one of your own farts by "grabbing" one by cupping your hand around your arse they sometimes don't smell anything like as bad as they do once you release them into the air. This kind of physics might be happening with your stomach, that the gas only really stinks once it get released into the air. And of course, if it's happening constantly or the odour is in your bloodstream it's going to be hard for your nose to be able to detect it, unless you catch it mixed with other odours in a backdraft.
I used to suffer with ulcer pains too. I don't know whether these were real ulcers though, but the pain would often have me folded over in agony if I ate or drank anything acidic. I have never tested positive for helicobacter. I think this was all caused by stress and smoking. An endoscopy revealed no signs of stomach/duodenal anomalies.
The way you've always described your odours appearing suddenly like they've burst out from somewhere has always made me wonder whether they might be from your stomach or your sinuses, or perhaps even your ass without realising. The fact that you've had a full endoscopic examination should have ruled out pouches and hernias etc where food could become trapped and stagnate and release odours in bursts. So, there's a good chance that the odours are coming from your actual stomach or possibly rising up from even further down into your small intestine, where they're able to escape via your stomach, especially if hypochlorhydria is causing chronic SIBO.
If you've ever tried to smell one of your own farts by "grabbing" one by cupping your hand around your arse they sometimes don't smell anything like as bad as they do once you release them into the air. This kind of physics might be happening with your stomach, that the gas only really stinks once it get released into the air. And of course, if it's happening constantly or the odour is in your bloodstream it's going to be hard for your nose to be able to detect it, unless you catch it mixed with other odours in a backdraft.
Well, I think the reason for this is that my BB only seems to become active when I'm speaking directly do someone. I had considered it might be BO or even some kind of leaking gas from my rear, but I get the reactions when I'm speaking to the faces of others. As long as I don't have to do that, or don't get worked up and breathe too much, people don't seem to react.halitosisux wrote: The way you've always described your odours appearing suddenly like they've burst out from somewhere has always made me wonder whether they might be from your stomach or your sinuses, or perhaps even your ass without realising.
So I did the Betaine HCL all yesterday too... I didn't have that empty burp kind of taste in my burps yesterday. When I had a potential reaction (I was actually much closer to the students today than before, and they didn't react when I was in their faces, it seemed, but I was still reserved) ,.. Later, I had some nose covering, but that might not have been me... It made me paranoid though, so I went ahead and took a 4th pill (the third for the day at that time).
I didn't feel great about it... maybe I shouldn't have eaten so late last night (I usually do), but this morning the shit was a mess again,and yeah, it kinda smelled... it was a different smell though... smelled kinda bad, like shit, but it was like it wasn't my own shit.. Just a new smell than usual....
Anyway, I'm kind of annoyed... Why would this be? Is whatever was in there gaining a resistance? .. My saliva tasted a little acidic again last night too. but I didn't feel I had that the other day...
I will keep taking this crap..... *sigh* I was actually becoming hopeful.. I was running thoughts through my head like 'what should I do first when I realize I'm BB free now, if that's the case?'
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Mike, if you have SIBO caused by low acidity then it may take a while until your body is able to clear this once you start on HCL tablets. A course of approriate antibiotics might help to speed this up if you're willing to risk them.
The problems with your digestion might be stress related and connected to the type of diet you eat. I'm also a very stress-prone person and I'm certain I've had stomach ulcers because of this, even though I showed no signs of one (apparently) during my endoscopy. The pain was always in a specific position right in the middle of my abdomen, it felt like a hot knife just below my breastbone. My digestion is not perfect either, but I always refused to connect my BB to my shit just because they smelled similar. There's many more reasons that cause bad breath other than shit, even though they may smell very alike because there are mostly the same chemicals (and bacteria) involved in the bacterial putrification.
Can you remind me, have you been tested for helicobacter? and have you been tested for intestinal parasites? Have you had blood tests for liver/kidney (etc) function. Does your tongue smell when you rub a finger on the back of your tongue?
If your tongue smells very badly at the back (like manure/tonsil stone odour) then you could have chronic sinusitis or a localized infection somewhere. The smell that acid reflux causes is similar to the smell of a leaking battery. It's a very distinctive sour rotten-fruity smell.
The bacteria of the tongue/mouth also produce their own odour when given the chance to, such as when saliva levels are low or some abnormal ecology condition exists, but I think this type of bad breath is only capable of producing the common close-range type of bad breath that the halitomafia range of products are able help with. If you have ever been a regular church-goer, like I used to be during my childhood, you'll know how common this type of BB can be first thing in the morning.
The problems with your digestion might be stress related and connected to the type of diet you eat. I'm also a very stress-prone person and I'm certain I've had stomach ulcers because of this, even though I showed no signs of one (apparently) during my endoscopy. The pain was always in a specific position right in the middle of my abdomen, it felt like a hot knife just below my breastbone. My digestion is not perfect either, but I always refused to connect my BB to my shit just because they smelled similar. There's many more reasons that cause bad breath other than shit, even though they may smell very alike because there are mostly the same chemicals (and bacteria) involved in the bacterial putrification.
Can you remind me, have you been tested for helicobacter? and have you been tested for intestinal parasites? Have you had blood tests for liver/kidney (etc) function. Does your tongue smell when you rub a finger on the back of your tongue?
If your tongue smells very badly at the back (like manure/tonsil stone odour) then you could have chronic sinusitis or a localized infection somewhere. The smell that acid reflux causes is similar to the smell of a leaking battery. It's a very distinctive sour rotten-fruity smell.
The bacteria of the tongue/mouth also produce their own odour when given the chance to, such as when saliva levels are low or some abnormal ecology condition exists, but I think this type of bad breath is only capable of producing the common close-range type of bad breath that the halitomafia range of products are able help with. If you have ever been a regular church-goer, like I used to be during my childhood, you'll know how common this type of BB can be first thing in the morning.