I have completely cured, Thanx GOD!

[noway]

at 06 Sep 2012, from about month ago, I have done tonsils and adenoids ectomy and finally i'm cured, i preferred to wait and take enough time to be sure from the results.
my right side tonsil was the source of infection and i had never suffered from tonsillitis, also no stones but there was a grove under this tonsil which was caching food particles and offer a good anaerobic environment for the growth of bacteria, all ENT specialists didn't recommend me to do the surgery because my blood Analysis was always perfect, but they didn't give me convincing explanation for "Why only my right side is smelly?!" they always casting accusations on sinusitis but my point against them was "If it is from sinusitis why i don't have nasal odors and where is the anaerobic infection source if all my sinuses are opened and air passes are OK?!" i was smell the odor some times in my right nasal but i was believing that if you suffer from oral bad breath only don't go deeper than oral cavity but ENT was telling me that it impossible to be from my tonsils because it was in a good case and the smell maybe drooped pus from my psot nasal! then i got frustrated from some stories here for people had done the surgery and the smell got worst!
I have taken my decision finally because i haven't got any scientific explanation from doctors to my question: "where is the anaerobic source which feed my right side for bacteria?!" and after researches i got a reality that no possible place other than that grove under my rt tonsil and thanx GOD, my assuming was right...

[FedUp]

congratulations dude, now go out and enjoy life the way it was meant to be!

[badbreathe88]

Congrats on your bb cure but I want to ask..
1. Was the surgery painful? Was it painful to eat/swallow?
2. How long was the recovery, pain and smell to fade away?
3. What does tonsil stones smell like? Does it really smell like fart/poo?

[noway]

1. Was the surgery painful? Was it painful to eat/swallow?
2. How long was the recovery, pain and smell to fade away?

It depends on your age, for me (29 years old) yes i got a damn week after the surgery, eating and swallowing were really hell with the worst bb in all the world after one week things have begun to be better day after day, now, the white membrane on my removed tonsils totally gone! bb too totally gone! have a thin tongue coat at the post part of my tongue but it is not smelly and if i brushed my tongue it still totally pink for 2 days without brushing my teeth.

3. What does tonsil stones smell like? Does it really smell like fart/poo?

My tonsils never produced any stones, but when i was rubbing my right tonsil my finger was smell so nasty (not fart) and the smell stuck to my finger for about 5 minutes!

By the way, you have nasal odors?

Note: after the surgery i noticed some positive indicators may help some of you guys, like:
- low body temperature and cool breath, before, my body was always hot and my breath also was very hot!
- normal sweating, before, i was suffer from excess sweating in the hot weather and doing as usual efforts!
- the most fantastic and unexpected improvement was no smell when i rub the greasy region under my lower lip!!! i don't know what is the link between that and my tonsils!!

[potty_mouth]

Hi noway, interesting what you say about the lower lip, the sweating and the being hot. I have all these symptoms although I have already had my tonsils removed. I do believe that I am having an immune response to an imbalance of bacteria, probably as you were too.
I just want to ask... what antibiotics were you on during your recovery, and how long have you been off them?

[bbsux]

Awesome dood...


GO enjoy your life but plz come back from time to time to update us on your condition and the changes you have noticed from how it used to be before to how it is now.

[hope4now]

I had a tonsillectomy in 2011, but no cure once the antibiotics wore off. It's good not to have tonsil stones, but I still have a problem with a clump of infected mucus collecting in the back of my throat. Only a neti pot rinse can get it out. It doesn't smell as bad as a tonsil stone, so the tonsillectomy was worth it.

I'm getting some relief with mastic gum. I'm also going to try manuka honey. I think my problems are H Pylori related.

[noway]

Hi noway, interesting what you say about the lower lip, the sweating and the being hot. I have all these symptoms although I have already had my tonsils removed. I do believe that I am having an immune response to an imbalance of bacteria, probably as you were too.
I just want to ask... what antibiotics were you on during your recovery, and how long have you been off them?

Yes, your right it's "an imbalance of bacteria" but what is the reason?!! where is the anaerobic factory which causes this triumph for the anaerobic bacteria?! i wanna telling you that ever my gas production rate is greatly diminished! this small lymph node in my mouth was affecting all my digestive tract and feed it with the harmful bacteria with every sallow! anyway, the antibiotic is cefotax 1g (injection twice a day, for 5 days after the surgery)

but plz come back from time to time to update us on your condition and the changes you have noticed from how it used to be before to how it is now.

Sure, bbsux, don't worry...

but I still have a problem with a clump of infected mucus collecting in the back of my throat. Only a neti pot rinse can get it out. It doesn't smell as bad as a tonsil stone, so the tonsillectomy was worth it.

"mucus collecting in the back of my throat " i think it's PND, but i know ppl suffers from sever PND with out ever hungry bad breath! you must catch the infection source, maybe your adenoids (they are lymph nodes too with the same mechanism of the tonsils.

[jess]

Congrats Noway! Please keep us posted from time to time.

[badbreathe88]

Hey thanks for the informative speedy reply, really is appreciated. I think I want to rip my adenoids and tonsils out too. Although I'm not too sure if it's contributing to my bb or not.
Another question, did you notice a difference in the taste of your saliva?
Did it use to taste sour?

By the way, you have nasal odors?

Nah I don't suffer from nasal odors.

i was suffer from excess sweating in the hot weather

Sounds like me, tons of sweat for no apparent reason in the summer!

Well I'm going to see the ENT tomorrow, a lot of people say don't mention bb? otherwise they won't do the procedure? o_O

[noway]

I think I want to rip my adenoids and tonsils out too. Although I'm not too sure if it's contributing to my bb or not.

hey, If you really don't have nasal BB (just oral) and your dental health is good (no teeth abscess, no decays, no pockets, no gum infections and no crooked teeth) there is no another anatomically space suitable for growing bacteria other than your lymph nodes (tonsils and adenoids) 95% if you sure that you don't have nasal bb and good dental health, it's your tonsils and it is on my responsibility, i have studied medicine for 4 years and can tell you anatomically there is no another possible place! go remove them but tell your doctor that your tonsils get inflamed 8 times per year and you tired and want to do the surgery, don't be frustrated from some stories here cause some of them suffer from nasal odors and it is different case, don't be frustrated from your ENT diagnosis too cause they just trace one type of bacteria (streptococcus) which life normally in the tonsils and don't lose your time and money in myths like candida and tongue germs and so on...

Another question, did you notice a difference in the taste of your saliva?
Did it use to taste sour?

Great improvement in the taste and tongue coating and even in the morning breath!
Yes i used to taste sour after drinking or eating sweets.

[badbreathe88]

Great improvement in the taste and tongue coating and even in the morning breath!
Yes i used to taste sour after drinking or eating sweets.

Nice!
Hm.. I went to the ENT today and he didn't want to do the procedure, he said my tonsils were so - so, not too good - not too bad. I have some small stones, all he gave me was antibiotics to rid the stones. He said I should go back to him in 2 weeks and check if the stones have cleared. What a fat load of help. I mean I'm freaking paying him for the surgery, why doesn't he want to do it? I'm not paying him for a long ass lecture, just shut up and do it.
Sometimes it's so frustrating when the doctors think they know everything.

[Archimonde]

If you really don't have nasal BB (just oral) and your dental health is good (no teeth abscess, no decays, no pockets, no gum infections and no crooked teeth) there is no another anatomically space suitable for growing bacteria other than your lymph nodes (tonsils and adenoids) 95% if you sure that you don't have nasal bb and good dental health, it's your tonsils

i had never suffered from tonsillitis, also no stones but there was a grove under this tonsil which was caching food particles and offer a good anaerobic environment for the growth of bacteria

The case you just described is like mine:

Never had stones, no nasal BB, just oral. I've never had any issues with my tonsils as far as i know but what else could it be? I don't believe in BB from the stomach anymore. Sometimes i feel like i have a lump in my throat, makes it difficult to swallow pills which get stuck in my throat, my problem has to come from there. I don't know much about the anatomy of the throat, maybe you can help me pinpoint where and what my problem is.

Are you still BB-free? You got both your palatine tonsils and adenoids removed at the same time? Did you have PND? Still do? Lump in throat?

Please stick around the forums for a while, your experience could be invaluable for some of us.

[noway]

I went to the ENT today and he didn't want to do the procedure, he said my tonsils were so - so, not too good - not too bad. I have some small stones, all he gave me was antibiotics to rid the stones. He said I should go back to him in 2 weeks and check if the stones have cleared. What a fat load of help. I mean I'm freaking paying him for the surgery, why doesn't he want to do it? I'm not paying him for a long ass lecture, just shut up and do it.
Sometimes it's so frustrating when the doctors think they know everything.

Very well, don't buy any drugs, just go visit him after 3 week and tell him that you finished the 2 weeks course of antibiotic and the things was ok during this 2 weeks and after finishing the course the stones came back and no improvement happened, then he will open your mouth and using his dumb wood stick and say: "no, there is visible improve" and the next step he will tell you that you need "Laser surgery to to CURE your tonsils" DON'T do just remove or don't waste your time for the tonsils just remove from root and for adenoids also remove with the Scraper not with suction technique cause adenoids rebuild themselves.

The case you just described is like mine:

Never had stones, no nasal BB, just oral. I've never had any issues with my tonsils as far as i know but what else could it be? I don't believe in BB from the stomach anymore. Sometimes i feel like i have a lump in my throat, makes it difficult to swallow pills which get stuck in my throat, my problem has to come from there. I don't know much about the anatomy of the throat, maybe you can help me pinpoint where and what my problem is.

Are you still BB-free? You got both your palatine tonsils and adenoids removed at the same time? Did you have PND? Still do? Lump in throat?

Please stick around the forums for a while, your experience could be invaluable for some of us.

In my OWN believe, stomach may be the root cause of some problems which affect esophagus and oral cavity and sinuses but i don't think that stomach itself will produce oral smell, I know close ppl suffer from sever degrees of stomach ulcer and hurt-burn and h.pylori and just have morning breath!

you need a power to in-force the gas in the stomach to resist the sticky walls of esophagus and get out the mouth like in "belching" and if you closed you mouth to prevent the smell it will escape from your nose, so, if you have nasal bb go deeper than your oral cavity, if not, don't confuse yourself.

- Yes, i still bb free.
- Yes, i removed both tonsils and adenoids at the same time.
- No, just controllable discharge (i can pull it and then Spit).
- Yes, there was something hard in my throat specially when i was Leaning my head downward.

anyway, don't believe your ENT doctor if told you that tonsils are important and you are in danger if you removed, he just want fast cha$h, tonsils and adenoids are a lymph nodes from numerous other lymph nodes in your body, and this system called lymphoid system which is circulatory system but responsible for Immunology, the main function of the eternal lymph nodes like tonsils and adenoids is caching the foreign bodies which enter our body by the entrances and exits like nose and mouth and the detect this microorganisms then build some thing called antibodies for this foreign body, The thing that concerns us in this, after 7 years old your tonsils almost have finished its role and detected the all possible foreign bodies and removing it will never hurt your health but in some times leaving tonsils plays a negative role. so, if that have not benefited from the surgery will not lose anything!

[badbreathe88]

Hm... I guess I'll try to persuade him to do it. Thanks for the advice