Found something

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:42 am

Well I know that my username shows newbie but I have actually been off and on this site for many years. I posted about 5 years ago or more regarding tmau thinking originally that may be my problem, I have no external skin Odor so I think I pretty much ruled that one out years ago(unless of course it is secondary tmau,of which I'm not even sure how to determine.) all I know is that my bb sucks and have no idea how to cure it. Anyway the reason I stay off this website is because it simply depresses me. I get way down when I ruminate about my problem and it is not healthy for me mentally, like said I've been on and off here for many years hoping that someone has found something that gave some sort of hope to everyone who is living this sort of half life. I feel like a zombie most days just going through the motions of life and avoiding any real intamacy with anyone. I have taken to alcohol to medicate and in truth it does subside the pain and torture of the lack of intimate dialogue with other human beings I crave. See I have tried to be social, I consider myself of at least average or better looks and have turned a few heads here and there but have learned quickly and rather painfully that I do not belong in social situations with anyone. Not once but many times I have been ridiculed painfully beyond my abilities to bear and have honestly contemplated s*****e many many times. I'm not sure why all this is pouring out of me. I just wanted to post something I found on bb. Anyway it is in motion so I will just continue, it almost feels good to vent although I have seen it many time and know it is in vain because it will not cure this retched curse. As I have said I have resorted to alcohol for a source of solace, I also frequent strip clubs as a source of intamacy and ego boost. I am no fool as I know I am purchasing that smile and attention from the pretty girls but it is all have. It may sound silly to some of you, I hardly say a word to them when I visit they probaly think I am shy or some sort of freak though I am neither, just ****ing cursed that's all. I read many of jimi posts and how he may rant sometimes but the truth is relate to all of them. I understand his anger because I know how it feels. Believe if you ever get the feeling to confide in someone who you think of as a friend about your bb be very cautious because when you are not around they will have a few laughs about you even if they still have sympathy for you. Sympathy, lol how pathetic! I don't want it so I choose to stay away from people as I have stated due to heartbreaking pain and ridicule. Enough my rant anyway like I said I'm not sure why this is all coming out. So the reason I signed in is because I promised myself that I'd ever found anything that look remotely promising I would post it and here it is. At least what I have found so far. If this is nothing new to this site then disregard, like i said I haven't been keeping up with the site because I'm already depressed enough. First here a link to an article I found by a real doctor. http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/ph ... All=y#more . Okay so after reading it several times what I got out it was the the chemical makeup of the current bb medications doesn't work because they are "stabilized" whatever that mean and that you have to mix your own for it to actually kill this plaque buildup in our mouths. So a researching online I found a company or several actually that sell this stuff in powder form to cure all kind of ailments. Supposedly your supposed to mix a couple drops at a time and ingest it to cure all kinds of shit. Anyways I haven't ingested cuz I read it can make you sick. I strictly rinse with it. What you get is two bottles in the mail in powder form. When mixed it creates a potentially explosive chemical reaction or at least that's what I read so be careful. Anyway the end result is unstabilized chlorine dioxide which is used to kill bacteria in pools. The one I purchased is mms or miracle mineral solution, I think they are just chemicals that you could maybe get somewhere locally near you but I didn't know where to find them so I just ordered them online from this company. And be carefull when you first rinse with it because it literally made me want to throw up when I first rinsed with it. This stuff is so powerfull and it killed my taste buds for awhile. Unfortunately I have no one to weigh the results against so I'm hoping some of you will try it and post your results. I have no affiliation with any company so I don't care where you get the chemical I just want some way to find out if this is a possible cure. Thx,J

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:52 am

Just posted and the article link did not go through so here it is again. http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/ph ... All=y#more. If anyone has tried this or know if it it does or does not work please post. I got all my info from this one article and could not find anything else related to it. It seemed pretty convincing though, Also wonder if the doc in this article is some kind of bb specialist.

MrChips · Post by **MrChips** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:35 pm

Thanks for the info.,
The link doesn't say what the ingredients are, the name of any brands or where you can purchase it online?

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:14 pm

Yea they are not trying to sell you anything in the article just telling you what chemical works, you have to figure out for yourself where to get it.i live in az USA. tried find something locally but didn't know where to get it. I then googled unstablized chlorine dioxide (you will get alot of hits refering it as a pool cleaner,lol)and found that it is basically a chemical reaction with citrus and the unstabalized chlorine powder. If you google it you will find it a few places on the Internet. I don't see why you should not be able to find it locally if you know of a chemical sale store. I just found it easiest to order from the mms and it came from Canada(they are not selling it as a bad breath cure,in fact they have no mention of it helping bb.) i personally dont give an f where you get it. I just figured out that it had the chemical makeup that the doctor from the article mentions. I personally have had it for about two months but have not been consistant with its use because you have to mix it every time. When you rinse with it it's easy to tell its powerful shit. I literally use just a coupe drop then dilute with water and its sends a chemical odor straight to me senses that is very powerful. I can barely stand to rinse with it for like twenty seconds. After rinse my mouth feels like its been assualted, I seem to lose the use of my taste buds for a while too. Like I said this shit is very powerfull and I don't really know a proper mixture as this is my own experimental process. If anyone else want to try with me cool. Also I don't have anyone that I can ask to smell my breath but I do run my finger to the back of my mouth and even gag myself, no smells at all after use, also have scraped my tongue after use and smell that too(gross) no smells though so it at least works temporarily for me. Still dont know about anything long term. Btw it is like bleach and will bleach your clothes if you spill it in them(found that out the hard way).

Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:29 pm

Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:31 pm

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:56 pm

Dude I'm no doctor so try at your own risk. I don't swallow it but if you read the article URL I posted then you will see mention of it by a doctor( and he is some sort of chemical specialist as it states on his title in the article)as the only thing that will really work. It is easy to tell when I rinse with it that it could be toxic which is why I rinse and spit. Better to try than living this piece of shit state of existence that I'm am currently in. Having this ailment is probaly the worst I can think of because you stink while you are in it, at least if you have some other ailment people can stand to be next to you. I think I'm on to something here, I've been dealing with this for so long and nothing ****ing helps. If I really didn't believe in my heart that this MAY be something that works I wouldn't be posting it because I know everyone's pain here, I've been reading your stories for years as well as living my own personal hell. I relate to most of you here and I think having a problem like this can literally drive someone mad, there has been no solution for it. It's not personal hygiene, it's not temporary it never goes away. I just want to solve it and move on with my life. I do believe there is something to this and I wish I could get more info on it from the doctor that posted the article.

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:30 pm

Btw, it is the recommended chemical makeup by a legitimate doctor who isn't trying to sell anyone anything!

Stankie · Post by **Stankie** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:36 pm

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:06 pm

Exactly, nothing is made with it but was not hard to figure out how to do myself. I have the ingredients and am trying to figure the rest out. The whole point of my post is that I have seen anything or had any hope in years and I mean years of waiting. This is something I think could work. It is said to be able to kill the bacteria and plaque buildup by the doctor or "chemist" in the article. I have nothin to lose by experimenting. By the same token I have nothing to gain by tell of this possible help I've found except in the hope that all of you will not have to suffer from this any more. Hope it works and I'm not afraid of using it. But I will heed your warning and be careful with it. Take care

Post by **Jimi Stein** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:23 pm

I am posting the whole article just in case here

George Preti, Ph.D., Monell Chemical Senses Center, Philadelphia

Chronic halitosis originates on the far back, upper surface of the tongue (“posterior dorsal tongue surface”). In this area, some people develop a bacterial plaque that is similar to the plaque on teeth and gums. However, the tongue plaque is caused by a different group of bacteria. The malodors produced by these bacteria are very similar to those produced by fecal matter, which is why descriptions of bad breath odor can include “feces,” rotten eggs, “sewer gases,” etc.

Chronic oral malodor may leave a “malodorous cloud” in your immediate presence. This is because every time you exhale, air from your lungs passes by the far-back of the tongue and carries out some of the offensive odor. Consequently, you or others may falsely interpret this malodor as a "body odor." Some individuals with chronic halitosis produce enough odor to eventually produce an environmental malodor in an office or small space.

The tongue plaque can be thick and pervasive and must be physically removed to ameliorate the situation. We suggest the use of oral cleansing products which contain the same bacterial-killing ingredient that is used in swimming pool water; dissolved chlorine dioxide gas. Do not get products with “stabilized” chlorine dioxide; the chemistry is not right.

Carefully follow the instructions for use, including the advice to use a “breath buddy,” someone you know and trust to give you an honest opinion regarding if and how much odor is present. This is an important point, since in our clinical experience there have been many instances where we have found that regardless of an individual’s self-impression of how malodorous they are, we detect little or no odor in their presence. This may happen for numerous reasons, but it is vital for those who have had negative social encounters caused by odor production to rely on a friend or loved-one’s impression and not on the reaction of strangers.

Finally, a trial of one to two months with one of the suggested products certainly should be tried (if you haven't already) to see if it works for you. However, the tongue plaque may return if tongue cleaning is discontinued. Therefore, it is essential to make gentle tongue brushing and scraping part of routine oral hygiene. This may be done with regular toothpaste but always seek feedback from a trusted source.

Post by **Jimi Stein** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:33 pm

This is same as MMS, some peope tried it on our site and it worked for a while, then stopped, just another snake oil

Plames · Post by **Plames** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:45 am

Don't know jimi just thought might be different because the makeup was unstabilized verses stabilized chlorine dioxide, two different chemical reactions I assume. I am no doctor, chemist or anything else but I do this mixture is different than anything I have ever tried. I however do not know if it has any long term effect. So far only work to temporarily help. If you say you have already tried this an failed maybe its just another dead end though, fml. That's why I posted was hoping not sure if anyone else had experienced it.

Post by **Jimi Stein** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:49 am

so you tried it already? in form of mms? If not maybe buy it and try it, but this is very similar to mms, i think same thing,

You know with that old crusty jim Humble, people have studied his tesimonials. All th testimonials come from his site or similar site that sell MMS, But if you go and try to seach for MMS cures on youtube, facebook, you will not find any. People try it for few months, then stop because the sideeffects are too strong and in fact the health is getting worse.

From out site, one girl tried it and her skin became very bad. That is really alarming if you ask me.

And another girl tried it, she said it only worked for a while

jess · Post by **jess** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:39 am

All I can say whatever you guys decide to try, just stay away from mms. I've done many things/ tried many products trying to get rid of this stupid condition and to this day mms is the only thing I wish I had never touched. So as I've already mentioned in many of my posts, please stay away from it!