Hello and a couple questions

[windows]

I decided to stop lurking -- I've been reading the site for about a month now, and wanted to pass along my thanks, especially to Jimi for running it and John for his tireless research. I hope the infighting stops soon -- it would be a shame to see the site dissolve as a result.

I have the same story as many of you -- I'm in my twenties, and the bb started in my late-teens after the onset of allergies and moving to a polluted big city. I also took many, many courses of antibiotics as a child and teen for various throat infections, and also for acne. Needless to say, I've tried almost everything you have (Therabreath, Closys, Smart Mouth, Breath Rememdy, TriOral, blah, blah, blah), and am just devastated when another new thing fails to offer relief. I'm tired of spending my money, my time, and my emotional energy on this problem. Unfortunately, the Vit. C is not working for me.

At any rate -- I have a couple of questions:

- Has anyone used Sea Fresh mouthwash before? The ingredients are: Ingredients: Water, Vegetable Glycerin, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Blue Green Algae*, Dead Sea Salt, Calcium Ascorbate, Zinc Ascorbate, Ascorbic Acid, Polysorbate 20,Witch Hazel Extract, Aloe Vera Gel*, Sodium Bicarbonate, Perilla Seed Extract, Natural Menthol, Spearmint Oil, Golden Seal*, Echinacea*, Calendula*. *Certified Organic, I hadn't heard of it before on this site, and just bought a bottle. I'll let you know if it seems to help. I like the idea of using natural treatments rather than more things ending in -oxide. It also says to have 'biologically active' algae.Are there any ingredients above that sound like bb provokers?

- I have to say that using a neti pot has been tremously helpful to me. Getting rid of the constant feeling of having hot glue (blech) on the back of my throat has been amazing. Does anyone think that there could possibly be a treatment that could be added to the neti pot water (like the salt) that would have some sort of anti-bacterial agent to kill the bad bacteria? I get the feeling that by the time the pnd is reaching my throat, it's too late to do anything about it's interaction with the anaerobic bacteria. Does that sound logical?

- Has anyone tried nasal or throat spray called SinuFresh? They have a nasal and a throat spray primarily slated to help with both pnd, allergies, but it mentions bb as one of the things it can help. I feel like treating the nose and throat might help with the environment in the mouth.

Sorry for writing a novel -- I just wanted to throw a few questions out there.

Thanks again for all of your help -- the site has been so, so helpful for me.

[xoxo]

Does anyone think that there could possibly be a treatment that could be added to the neti pot water (like the salt) that would have some sort of anti-bacterial agent to kill the bad bacteria?

saline wash. try your local pharmacy.

[noptical]

I feel like treating the nose and throat might help with the environment in the mouth.

It definitely will.

[emotional rescue]

could someone explain me what is a neti pot???

thanks

[noptical]

could someone explain me what is a neti pot???

thanks

You fill it with a saline solution (water with some salt) or some other stuff, shove it up your nostril and the water comes from the other nostril. This way it cleans your nasal canals and supposedly sinuses etc.

[BronxJazzy]

You can try neti wash which is some kind of solution with zinc in it to help build the mucus lining and help reduce bacteria with a little peroxide and salt or half alkalol and half water. It has menthol a little alcohol and a bunch of other things in it its highly recommended by ents for sinus flushing of course always add salt to your mixture. I've tried both they work great but the alkalol will have you only being able to smell menthol for a couple of hrs. If you really want something potent you can mix the half alkalol with half water and a drop of the neti wash nothing could survive that.

[windows]

Thanks, BronxJazzy, (and everyone) for responding!

I will definitely track down some of the additives for the neti pot. I can't say enough how much using it has helped my pnd -- which will hopefully lead to reducing my bb after more extended use.

I've also been getting pretty good results with the SeaFresh mouthwash I bought -- it takes about an hour to really feel the bb return, as opposed to the instant grossness that comes back with just about everyone else I've used. Has anyone else used this product?

I'm also going to check out the throat spray I mentioned above (just need to order it).

I'll be out of town for the next week and a half, but I'll report back any progress.

Have a great night, everyone!

[elliott]

I use sea freah (by jason). Not sure what effect it has, but I like it, and feel better that it is all natural.

Still trying to figure out if the other type, Tea tree, is better.

[windows]

Thanks, Elliot -- I'm really liking SeaFresh (right now, at least).

I've never used straight tea tree oil -- does anyone have any feedback?

[elliott]

no not straight tea tree (although, yes I have been there.) Jason makes another type of toothpaste made with tea tree.