Maybe healed, maybe improved. Maybe self deceived. For sure, I don't understand anything.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:07 am
It is 10.54. I'm in office. I go to the bathroom. I pee. I open the tap, wet my hands. While I soap my hands I stick my tongue out and look in the mirror.
The tongue is pink.
I've never had a pink tongue.
Step back.
When I was a teenager, and my oral care was limited to brushing my teeth hastily, morning and evening, my tongue had a sheen so thick that it felt like wax to touch it. It was completely white, with yellow and green streaks. I knew and they told me I had bad breath. I didn't have the money to go to the dentist, I didn't work. I was ashamed to talk to my parents.
Then, as I grew up, thanks to the internet, I discovered that you had to floss, clean your tongue. I started working. I was able to go to the dentist, remove a wisdom tooth, have a hygiene session every 5 months. I consulted an ENT, an internal medicine doctor.
The usual things you all have done.
Over the years I have bought and purchased all kinds of mouthwash, toothbrush, tongue cleaner, toothpaste.
With good oral hygiene, my tongue had changed. Always white, but much less.
A few months ago, a significant change. I decided I would never use a mouthwash again. The useful ones cannot be used because they are real drugs, while the others give only a fake feeling of freshness.
I also stopped chewing gum.
Did this cure my bad breath? Obviously not.
A few weeks ago, I read Dr. Murat's website and each of his contributions to this forum very carefully.
As Dr. Murat suggests, I trashed my $ 150 electric toothbrush, and bought a manual toothbrush with medium / hard bristles (on his website you can see a photo of the kind he points to).
I also stopped scraping my tongue. Now I brush it.
I bought a trivial zinc-containing toothpaste.
I bought the tung gel.
That's all.
I used to take 30 minutes to brush my teeth. Now maximum 10. One minute for flossing, 4-5 minutes for teeth, 2-3 minutes for cleaning the tongue.
What has changed? That my tongue is now pink. Like I've never had it in my life.
I can speculate that the soft head of the electric toothbrush and the fact that I scraped my tongue instead of brushing it were due to imperfect oral hygiene.
Now my tongue is pink. It is the result that I have been chasing for years, and now I have achieved it.
Did this cure my bad breath? I do not think so. But I think not.
But something has certainly changed. Thing? I would very much like to know.
The taste in my mouth seems to have disappeared. Sometimes there is, but it is mild and above all DIFFERENT.
I can't explain how it is different. It is certainly less intense, and it goes away completely if I just put a gum in my mouth for 10 seconds and then spit it out.
The point is, after twenty years of bad breath, I think I can't rely on my feelings now.
I certainly developed halitophobia and who knows what other form of misperception.
I may have a fresh mouth, but I smell so bad and I don't know.
Maybe I cured intraoral bad breath, or decreased it, and the other taste I feel is from another type of bad breath. So type 1 bad breath didn't make me smell other bad breath types (maybe type 4?)
I mean, I can only speculate.
Not being able to have the slightest reliable perception of one's breath is the real big problem of our condition.
We would need continuous screening, before, during and after therapy, to see what works.
Maybe I'm healed, and I don't know. Or maybe it's all the same and I'm just fooling myself.
What do you think about this?
The tongue is pink.
I've never had a pink tongue.
Step back.
When I was a teenager, and my oral care was limited to brushing my teeth hastily, morning and evening, my tongue had a sheen so thick that it felt like wax to touch it. It was completely white, with yellow and green streaks. I knew and they told me I had bad breath. I didn't have the money to go to the dentist, I didn't work. I was ashamed to talk to my parents.
Then, as I grew up, thanks to the internet, I discovered that you had to floss, clean your tongue. I started working. I was able to go to the dentist, remove a wisdom tooth, have a hygiene session every 5 months. I consulted an ENT, an internal medicine doctor.
The usual things you all have done.
Over the years I have bought and purchased all kinds of mouthwash, toothbrush, tongue cleaner, toothpaste.
With good oral hygiene, my tongue had changed. Always white, but much less.
A few months ago, a significant change. I decided I would never use a mouthwash again. The useful ones cannot be used because they are real drugs, while the others give only a fake feeling of freshness.
I also stopped chewing gum.
Did this cure my bad breath? Obviously not.
A few weeks ago, I read Dr. Murat's website and each of his contributions to this forum very carefully.
As Dr. Murat suggests, I trashed my $ 150 electric toothbrush, and bought a manual toothbrush with medium / hard bristles (on his website you can see a photo of the kind he points to).
I also stopped scraping my tongue. Now I brush it.
I bought a trivial zinc-containing toothpaste.
I bought the tung gel.
That's all.
I used to take 30 minutes to brush my teeth. Now maximum 10. One minute for flossing, 4-5 minutes for teeth, 2-3 minutes for cleaning the tongue.
What has changed? That my tongue is now pink. Like I've never had it in my life.
I can speculate that the soft head of the electric toothbrush and the fact that I scraped my tongue instead of brushing it were due to imperfect oral hygiene.
Now my tongue is pink. It is the result that I have been chasing for years, and now I have achieved it.
Did this cure my bad breath? I do not think so. But I think not.
But something has certainly changed. Thing? I would very much like to know.
The taste in my mouth seems to have disappeared. Sometimes there is, but it is mild and above all DIFFERENT.
I can't explain how it is different. It is certainly less intense, and it goes away completely if I just put a gum in my mouth for 10 seconds and then spit it out.
The point is, after twenty years of bad breath, I think I can't rely on my feelings now.
I certainly developed halitophobia and who knows what other form of misperception.
I may have a fresh mouth, but I smell so bad and I don't know.
Maybe I cured intraoral bad breath, or decreased it, and the other taste I feel is from another type of bad breath. So type 1 bad breath didn't make me smell other bad breath types (maybe type 4?)
I mean, I can only speculate.
Not being able to have the slightest reliable perception of one's breath is the real big problem of our condition.
We would need continuous screening, before, during and after therapy, to see what works.
Maybe I'm healed, and I don't know. Or maybe it's all the same and I'm just fooling myself.
What do you think about this?