Bad Breath Halitosis Forum

lanegro wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:00 am Update: i did two more treatments of urea 40%\salicylic acid + 35% carbamide peroxide today and my tongue looks cleaner than probably 80% of the population lol. There’s about 10% that i still have to clearr off but I’m loving the progress so far. Also i noticed after eating that my tongue doesn’t get stained with whatever color food I’m eating like it used to because so much of the keratin is gone. I still always scrape my tongue after eating so I don’t encourage new growth though. I’m going to continue doing this for 2 weeks along with brushing and flossing just to make sure it doesn’t come back, but I’m about 95% sure that extra keratin is long gone!

lanegro wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:51 am I just purchased a topical cream off Amazon it has 40% Urea and 2% salicylic acid. You can purchase any one that has those percentages. I spread the cream on my tongue with a spoon and let it sit for maybe 8-10mins or as long as I can take it while massaging it into my tongue. Then i scrape it off with my metal tongue scraper and rinse. Afterwards i mix the 35% carbamide peroxide (optional) with some salt and scrub with my second tongue cleaner (orabrush) until its pink and there’s no white left and then i rinse again. The point of the salt is to scrub off the keratin which was dissolved by the urea/salicylic acid. If you can’t the take the taste of salt you can get away with some baking soda or vegetable glycerin.. they both work great. Repeat the steps 2-3 times daily. Don’t scrub too hard or you’ll risk injuring your tongue and you’ll have to wait a day or two to start again. Gentle but thorough strokes are key. And don’t forget to brush and rinse 30mins after you eat EVERY time. Which means brushing your teeth and tongue along with flossing. I wouldn’t brush your teeth immediately after eating since you could risk damaging your the enamel on your teeth. The tongue is just an indication of how much bacteria is in your mouth, cleaning only your tongue is not going to get rid of this issue

lanegro wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:35 pm I’ve noticed that the spot that I’ve burned off is slowly growing back the white hairs that i burnt off. I’m pretty sure that it’s just the normal part of the tongue’s anatomy so I’m not really upset about that. What i do notice is that even after cleaning the tongue until it’s completely shiny and clean, sometimes the white spots can still appear atop of the tongue after eating or in the morning so it makes me believe that the problem is not the anatomy of the tongue. I can confirm since cleaning the tongue doesn’t necessarily mean the bb is gone. The tongue is only an indicator of how much bacteria is present in the mouth. So although the urea did help shredding the keratin it’s not the long term solution. Everyone’s situation is different but I’m pretty sure i either have a problem with my GI tract or i just need to take oral probiotics to rebuild the flora in my mouth.

lanegro wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:04 pm I researched a few studies for curing hairy tongue and found that they recommend 40% urea so thats what i went with. Plus it contains salicylic acid which also helps shed the keratin.

OK, so I have discovered a number of things while trying urea. For one, I didn’t have as bad of hairy tongue as I initially thought, I only applied urea maybe six or seven times and most of the overgrowth on my papillae have reduced significantly. However, I have been taking a number of extra steps while using the topical on my tongue. There is no way of telling exactly what is helping my tongue return to its current pink color. My current regime goes as followed:
1) First thing in the morning, I swish around a tablespoon of coconut oil for 15 to 20 minutes to pull out the toxins my body has brought up to my mouth overnight. I rinse with warm water 3-4 times. The warm water helps loosen the oil that might be stuck on your teeth. I do this 3x a day.
2) I use my orabrush and my diy baking soda/peroxide paste and clean my tongue until its no coating visible. I use the flash light on my phone to make sure of this. This step is very important because physically removing the bacteria from the tongue removes 90% of bad breath that comes from the mouth. I also do this 3x times daily after each meal.
3) I use a metal u shaped tongue scraper and scrape the accumulated saliva and bacteria off the surface of my tongue. This is better than the orabrush when it comes to scraping the gunk directly off your tongue while the orabrush is more so used to bring the gunk to the surface.
4) I brush my teeth with a teeth whitening toothpaste for 2mins and rinse. Again, repeated 3x daily, preferably 30mins after eating
5) I floss for about one minute and rinse
6) I rinse my mouth with either saltwater or peroxide but I honestly only do this to supplement my regime since the coconut oil does such a damn good job of making my breath fresh so this step is up to you. I’d probably only use it i know I’m going to be talking around people.
7) I take a high potency probiotic with 8oz of water and I eat breakfast
Before bed, i do my final oil pull for 15-20mins and drink 8oz of aloe vera juice and take my final probiotic (I also take one during dinner so 3 in total)

This is what excellent dental hygiene looks like. It seems meticulous and stressful but when you notice how clean your mouth and tongue fees afterwards, it becomes addictive. My tongue only has very small sections where you can see the excess of “hair” on it but the rest of my tongue looks pink and shiny. While eating, i do get a small light coating with whatever color food or beverage I’m drinking but it quickly goes away when following it with water. STAYING HYDRATED IS IMPORTANT a dry mouth=a bad mouth.

Now as far as the urea and the carbamide peroxide, I have only used it three more times since my last update because i wasn’t sure if it was working or not. After each application it does seem like it leaves my tongue very pink but it could just be already pink from the baking soda scrub. As you can see I’m throwing everything at it. I literally have no idea if its the probiotics, urea, carbamide peroxide, coconut oil, aloe vera or just the overall meticulous regime which is making my tongue so pink LOL. Although i scrub the shit out of my tongue and make sure i get all of the gunk off, i have focused on reducing the overall count of bacteria in mouth instead by using the coconut oil. I noticed in the morning that the bad breath is very minimal and the coating doesn’t return! Although it’s probably beneficial to know that even a slight white coating is normal upon waking since the average person doesn’t produce much saliva while asleep. It really takes a dedicated effort to get rid of this so be consistent. I’ve noticed subtle improvements each day. I HIGHLY recommend oil pulling and drinking aloe vera. My teeth are noticeably whiter, the morning breath is minimal, the teeth sensitivity is gone, and my face looks very smooth and clear. Sometimes it takes a multi-arsenal approach to get rid of confusing illnesses such as these and luckily it has been working for me so far.

lanegro wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:42 pm Yeah I’m cured