9 years of Halitosis

[1322Life]

Hi, May peace be upon you

I have bad breath: smell of poop for 9 years, it started when I was a teenager. People always made the remark "it smells like shit" but I didn't understand that it came from me.

I don't know what's causing this

Even when I have my mouth closed some people say it smells bad.

this smell comes from my throat and not from my mouth i can smell it myself

So I got into the habit of cleaning to the bottom of my throat, to the point of wanting to vomit. This method works for a few hours I no longer feel the smell but a few hours later it comes back.

What is strange and surprising is that when I am at home I do not smell it, but when I go out I manage to smell it.

I have tried several remedies without success, I am very exhausted by the situation, I have been on several forums but there is a billion causes and I sincerely cannot understand why I have this problem.

Here are my symptoms:

I sometimes have digestive problems at times.

I have a lot of gas in the colon (but when my bad breath began during the first years I did not have this gas problem, this problem started 1 or 2 years later)

In the past I was led to take antibiotics to treat angina (is it a cause?)

I have a swollen thyroid (but apparently no connection to bad breath)

Some members of my family also have bad breath at times (not a smell of poop like me but bad breath anyway) is there a hereditary cause?

I'm looking for a solution, I don't have friends I don't work because I'm afraid, this damn problem blocks me.

I really hope that God will put on my path a person who can guide me towards a solution... I really need your prayers. I'm going to heal from this disease I'm sure

[hopelovefaith]

Stop guessing your diseases and try upper gi endoscopy. Bb is a symptom of hiatal hernia, gastritis, esophagitis and gerd. Halitosis is caused by amoxillin, multiple antibiotics, sodas, dairy and alcoholism . Stomach surgery is your last resort. Google gerd sinusitis, gerd gums , gerd lungs and gerd nails

[Longtime]

Hopelovefaith how do you know this and have you seen anyone cured from reflux meds or linx. One person here said linx caused lots of problems and did not work

[hopelovefaith]

Hopelovefaith how do you know this and have you seen anyone cured from reflux meds or linx. One person here said linx caused lots of problems and did not work

That person has other health issues. Stomach surgery will change your life.

[1322Life]

Hopelovefaith how do you know this and have you seen anyone cured from reflux meds or linx. One person here said linx caused lots of problems and did not work

That person has other health issues. Stomach surgery will change your life.

Have you had stomach surgery?

[1322Life]

Stop guessing your diseases and try upper gi endoscopy. Bb is a symptom of hiatal hernia, gastritis, esophagitis and gerd. Halitosis is caused by amoxillin, multiple antibiotics, sodas, dairy and alcoholism . Stomach surgery is your last resort. Google gerd sinusitis, gerd gums , gerd lungs and gerd nails

Have you had stomach surgery?

[Wiener_Schnitzel33]

Hello, 1322Life,

I had a fundoplication after being diagnosed with acid reflux through pH-metry, but unfortunately, it did not solve anything in my case. I also suffer from fecal halitosis from both my mouth and nose. Interestingly, my halitosis worsened significantly after having tonsillitis (angina), for which I took antibiotics and painkillers. In January, I am scheduled for a Botox injection as a last resort for the upper digestive tract (throat, stomach, and small intestine).

However, I don’t believe that this will help those of us who suffer from fecal halitosis through both mouth and nose. I have consulted with many gastroenterologists, and none of them are familiar with reflux cases that cause such a severe odor. I believe it may be linked to the lower digestive tract, but the doctors I’ve spoken to insist that it’s unlikely since that area is closed off.

Do you also experience belching?

[1322Life]

Hello, 1322Life,

I had a fundoplication after being diagnosed with acid reflux through pH-metry, but unfortunately, it did not solve anything in my case. I also suffer from fecal halitosis from both my mouth and nose. Interestingly, my halitosis worsened significantly after having tonsillitis (angina), for which I took antibiotics and painkillers. In January, I am scheduled for a Botox injection as a last resort for the upper digestive tract (throat, stomach, and small intestine).

However, I don’t believe that this will help those of us who suffer from fecal halitosis through both mouth and nose. I have consulted with many gastroenterologists, and none of them are familiar with reflux cases that cause such a severe odor. I believe it may be linked to the lower digestive tract, but the doctors I’ve spoken to insist that it’s unlikely since that area is closed off.

Do you also experience belching?

I rarely have belching, How did you get the idea of doing botox for bb ?

[hopelovefaith]

Laser halitosis seems cool and it’s only three hundred dollars google laser halitosis trisa dental

[hopelovefaith]

GERD is another condition that has been associated with halitosis. Poelmans et al (22) showed a higher prevalence of erosive esophagitis (52.3% versus 38.4%; P<0.05 [mainly grade 1: 31.9% versus 22.7%; P<0.05]) and peptic ulcer (8.4% versus 4.3%; P<0.05) in patients with GERD-related ENT symptoms (including halitosis) compared with typical GERD patients. Di Fede et al (24) studied 200 patients with GERD and 100 matched healthy controls. They found that halitosis was significantly more common in patients with GERD than in control subjects (49.2% versus 31%; P=0.0004).
A recent study by Moshkowitz et al (25) evaluated the relationship between upper gastrointestinal conditions, especially GERD, and halitosis in 132 consecutive patients complaining of upper gastrointestinal symptoms. All patients completed a validated questionnaire that was designed to characterize and measure the severity of their symptoms. They found that halitosis was significantly associated with the occurrence and severity of heartburn (P=0.027), regurgitation (P=0.002), sour taste (P<0.001), belching (P=0.001) and borborygmus (P=0.006). Halitosis was not associated with upper abdominal pain, bloating, early satiety or chest pain. Regarding the final diagnosis, halitosis was significantly associated with GERD (P=0.002), but not with functional dyspepsia (P=0.855) or peptic ulcer disease (P=0.765). Interestingly, no correlation was found between H pylori infection status and halitosis occurrence and severity. Symptoms characteristic of GERD were present in 37 of our 94 patients (39.4%).
We found that gastrointestinal pathology was very common in patients with halitosis and was present in 54 of the 94 patients (57.4%). Pathology was noted regardless of dental or otolaryngological findings. Most pathologies, both macroscopic and microscopic, were noted in the stomach (60% non-H pylori related), followed by the duodenum and the esophagus.
We found that most patients improved with treatment (mainly PPI and/or H pylori eradication treatment). The improvement with antibiotic treatment may have been the result of compositional changes in the mouth flora. Nevertheless, the fact that many patients without H pylori infection responded to PPI treatment may also suggest a relationship between non-H pylori gastrointestinal pathologies and halitosis. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2948765/

[Wiener_Schnitzel33]

1322Life: The doctor who performed my fundoplication mentioned it could help since I had slightly elevated pressure in the lower esophagus during my manometry test. He suggested we give it a try. Botox is sometimes used to help diagnose a rare condition called achalasia, though it’s unlikely that I have it, as he could typically identify that based on the CT images and the manometry results. Sorry, my previous explanation wasn’t clear.
1322 do you have heartburn, burping? That would be classic reflux symptoms, I guess.

Hello hopelovefaith: Thanks for sharing that. I was diagnosed with GERD before my fundoplication, confirmed by impedance testing. I had significant acid reflux, but after the fundoplication, my tests show no reflux anymore. However, I’m still experiencing a lot of burping and of course the real problem is that it did not solve the Halitosis-problem at all. I really believed GERD might be the key to solving this.

Like 1322Life, I also have a lot of gas in my colon, which makes me wonder if there’s something going on in the lower digestive tract that could be contributing to the bad breath. I don’t have any food intolerances, SIBO, or other obvious conditions, and doctors say these issues shouldn’t be connected to halitosis.
At this point, I’m not sure what else to investigate, as the Botox injection is unlikely to solve anything, jsut long time to wait. Like 1322Life, I do not work due to the Halitosis.

The problem is that we all have questions and no one really has answers. Also, there are so many different causes of Halitosis. I think, 1322life and I might have the same cause due to similiar symptoms.

[1322Life]

1322Life: The doctor who performed my fundoplication mentioned it could help since I had slightly elevated pressure in the lower esophagus during my manometry test. He suggested we give it a try. Botox is sometimes used to help diagnose a rare condition called achalasia, though it’s unlikely that I have it, as he could typically identify that based on the CT images and the manometry results. Sorry, my previous explanation wasn’t clear.
1322 do you have heartburn, burping? That would be classic reflux symptoms, I guess.

Hello hopelovefaith: Thanks for sharing that. I was diagnosed with GERD before my fundoplication, confirmed by impedance testing. I had significant acid reflux, but after the fundoplication, my tests show no reflux anymore. However, I’m still experiencing a lot of burping and of course the real problem is that it did not solve the Halitosis-problem at all. I really believed GERD might be the key to solving this.

Like 1322Life, I also have a lot of gas in my colon, which makes me wonder if there’s something going on in the lower digestive tract that could be contributing to the bad breath. I don’t have any food intolerances, SIBO, or other obvious conditions, and doctors say these issues shouldn’t be connected to halitosis.
At this point, I’m not sure what else to investigate, as the Botox injection is unlikely to solve anything, jsut long time to wait. Like 1322Life, I do not work due to the Halitosis.

The problem is that we all have questions and no one really has answers. Also, there are so many different causes of Halitosis. I think, 1322life and I might have the same cause due to similiar symptoms.

There are so many possible causes, I don't have heartburn or buping, I think in my case I have LPR, silence reflux or a reflux in the form of gas. What kind of bad breath do you have? How long have you had bad breath ?

[Wiener_Schnitzel33]

I also suffer from fecal halitosis. I've had it for about 10 years now, but it was manageable for quite some time until I developed tonsillitis (angina) and took a lot of painkillers along with antibiotics, as mentioned above. Since then, it’s been terrible again, and that was around 2.5 years ago.

LPR (laryngopharyngeal reflux) could be a possible cause. I was diagnosed with LPR by an ENT specialist using a device called Restech pH-metry, which measures acid vapor in the throat. The ENT prescribed a lot of PPIs, and I also changed my diet, but nothing has helped. I then had fundoplication surgery, but unfortunately, it didn’t help with the halitosis.

I haven’t repeated the Restech pH-metry measurement due to the high cost. Even if LPR reflux is the issue, there must be an underlying cause and some effective treatment, as none of my efforts so far have resolved the problem. I’m hopeful that Botox injection in the lower esophagus may help, which is the last thing to try wthin the upper digestive tract.

[hopelessone]

Praying for you, and me too. (((hug)))

[Wiener_Schnitzel33]

Hello guys,

The botox in this lower sphincter did not help anything.
I have made the same experience as 1322Life said with antibiotics (amoxillin). The only thing that actually did help was Metronidazol (Flagyl), but just temperorary. 1322Life have you tried Metronidazol? If yes, than I think we have the same cause.

Does anyone know how to heal nasal and oral bb caused of amoxillin? I am very frustrated.....I do not have anything else to try.....I did all and the only thing which did help temporary was Metronidazol (Flagyl).

Thanks a lot for your time )



Hopelessone, do you think that we can ever have a normal life? If I ever get rid of this, I will do just good things in my life.