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Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:47 am
by Arisant
I’ll keep my post short

I’ve suffered from bb since age 12. I’ve seen countless of ENT doctors and tried everything without success (netty pot, mouthwashes, grapeseed extract etc). I’ve had a septoplasty and my tonsils removed.

I always have bad breath but the smell is way worse when the back of my nose gets dry. When this happens NOTHING makes it better. I also suffer from silent reflux which makes everything worse. I have a small hiatal hernia, doctor doesn't want to operate.

Honestly I still wear a facemask because I’m too embarrassed to take it off. Sometimes I had to change my facemask in the middle of my shift because my mask smelled really bad.

Last week I saw a different ENT doctor. I had a CT scan done and a nasal endoscopy. She noticed that my adenoid area was dry. She believed that maybe my bad breath was caused by bacteria in that area and prescribed antibiotics and budesonide.

She also saw all the thick mucus reflux on the back of my throat, itwas irritating my throat and recommended natural products that would help with my reflux. She said my reflux contributed to my bb.

Ever since I started taking the antibiotics my facemask doesn’t stick anymore. I even wore the same facemask for a day and a half just to make sure and no smell at all. I still can’t bring myself to talk to others without my mask. I’ve been suffering for 20 years and I think I’m traumatized.

Anyway, I still taking my antibiotics but I’m afraid the smell might come back after I stop.

Does anybody have a similar experience?

God bless you

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:31 am
by Omiomi20
Hi!

I have the same experience as you since I was 11.

I never knew it was from silent reflux but I was going to 20-30 ENTs to find out whats the problem. I never told them my concern of BB as I was ashamed and

Only until I was 21, that finally an ENT finally finds out my adenoids was enlarged.
Please request for the removal of adenoid, it will solve 80% of the BB problem. Antibotics will only solve for a short while as your andenoids has probably been permanently enlarged due to silent reflux. Also its likely that your tonsils are also enlarged due to the silent reflux, so please please remove the tonsils + adenoids.

Im currently at 30, still trying to solve the rest of the 20% bb from solent reflux / gut problem.
Anw without that adenoids and tonsils removal, I think I would have really committed s… due to the horrible Bb and depression..

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:48 am
by Jimi Stein
thank you for your replay. So how are people treating you so bad in Asia...I will not reveal your country. I thought Asians are more forgiving regarding bad breath.

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:53 am
by ryan
I also have the same case, during my nasal endoscopy, the Dr. found I have adenoiditis (enlargement of adenoids). During the endoscopy, he showed it to me in the monitor and I saw there's white pus on that area. He just prescribed me an antibiotics but it didn't work. I asked him if it's possible to have an adenoidectomy, he said yes but it's hard for me to find one because I need to go to bigger city where the apparatus is available. Only tonsillectomy is available in my area. (Type of bb; mouth and nasal fecal bb.)

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:56 am
by ryan
@Omiomi20
What do you mean of 80% solve? Is it manageable, do you still have nasal room filling bb. How I wish we could eliminate at least this nasal room filling bb, I could accept bb from the mouth but this nasal shit, it's affecting me horribly.

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:31 pm
by Omiomi20
ryan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:56 am @Omiomi20
What do you mean of 80% solve? Is it manageable, do you still have nasal room filling bb. How I wish we could eliminate at least this nasal room filling bb, I could accept bb from the mouth but this nasal shit, it's affecting me horribly.
No im sure after my adenoids and tonsils removal, all of this nasal bb is gone. Before that, the adenoids and tonsils were constantly ‘storing’ this reflux contents and produce a bad smell with constant infections. (I had stuffy nose, post nasal drips, and headache, fever from infections twice a month for 10+ years). Before this removal,people sitting next to me in public transport would move away. A kid in the elevator even said the elevator smells, when he was standing next to me... None of this is happening now after the surgery.

The reason why im saying 80% better is that, there must be a reason why the adenoids and tonsils of ours are enlarged. Its because of reflux. Silent or not silent. So far i have not solved the main problem of reflux so im pretty sure there must be some smell from this. But I can feel my mouth feels much cleaner, hence 80% better. And also no problem of nasal anymore.

Lastly, I have no one whom I can ask about my breath. So i dont really know what fresh breath mouths feel like. Im constantly in anxiety still…hence only 80%

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:37 pm
by Omiomi20
ryan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:53 am I also have the same case, during my nasal endoscopy, the Dr. found I have adenoiditis (enlargement of adenoids). During the endoscopy, he showed it to me in the monitor and I saw there's white pus on that area. He just prescribed me an antibiotics but it didn't work. I asked him if it's possible to have an adenoidectomy, he said yes but it's hard for me to find one because I need to go to bigger city where the apparatus is available. Only tonsillectomy is available in my area. (Type of bb; mouth and nasal fecal bb.)
Hi, at all cost, pls get both removed. You will see the effect right away.
And similar to my case I believe it stems from silent acid reflux. Because with years of researching, I dont see any other reason why we could have enlarged adenoids/ tonsils unless there was a constant irritation of the area. Please try some antacids / tums tablets to manage your symptoms meanwhile.
Also, pls take twice a year intestinal parasites removal medication. it may be contribute to your reflux…

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:41 pm
by Omiomi20
Jimi Stein wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:48 am thank you for your replay. So how are people treating you so bad in Asia...I will not reveal your country. I thought Asians are more forgiving regarding bad breath.
As long as anyone have Bb, we are treated badly everywhere… i have lived in europe and asia, its the same thing.

I always wish I had cancer instead of this so people wouldnt hate me so much…

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:51 pm
by Omiomi20
Also enlarged adenoids are really easily to be missed.. i have been to countless of drs, and all concluded allergies, only 1 dr finally found out the adenoids. This is really puzzling, as its not normal for adults to have adenoids, so till this day i dont understand why so many drs could have missed that.

Similarly for tonsils , i think they are easily dismissing it as infection and prescribing antibiotics. But even after I came back to the dr in the same month for a second check up, they still didnt know its not normal infections…?

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:55 pm
by Longtime
I had my tonsils and adenoids removed in 2017. Adenoids have grown back per the last ENT I saw. BB never went away. I have been told silent reflux as well. I think it is allergy related. Allergies can cause adenoids to hypertrophy.

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:26 pm
by Omiomi20
Longtime wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:55 pm I had my tonsils and adenoids removed in 2017. Adenoids have grown back per the last ENT I saw. BB never went away. I have been told silent reflux as well. I think it is allergy related. Allergies can cause adenoids to hypertrophy.

Again these adenoids are appearing with silent reflux. Have you solved your silent reflux issue? If not then thats why still the Bb + regrow of adenoids?
I still have 20% Bb with silent reflux.having my adenoids checked again soon, had my surgery in 2016 or 2017 as well.

Im still leaning towards silent reflux tbh. Not to say allergies cant cause hypertrophy of adenoids but i think the chances are much slimmer than reflux

Re: Antibiotics for bacteria

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:51 pm
by ryan
Maybe you are right. My g.i. doc found that I have a gastritis after endoscopy. So gastritis/gerd/ silent reflux are all related to ACID. When there's a reflux of acid it triggers inflammation of adenoids. And if you have issue with your adenoids, it triggers post nasal drip which causes thick mucus. Yeah, it's multi factorial that's why it's hard to pinpoint the root cause.