I´m sick and tired of trying everything to stop my BB i´m so f**king tired !!!!!!!!
I,m gonna stop looking for mouthwashes or all the other none woking things.
I really wanna laser the back of my tongue.I´m from the Netherlands and a while ago they where talking about people with BB on a tv show.They were also talkin about laser but never said were you could do it.
So now i´m trying to find a place where they laser the back of your tongue.
I really wanna do it if i could go to Israel but i don´t have enough money.
I really hope i find someone in the Netherlands who can do it. Dentist do alot with laser nowadays So i have hope.
I think it´s the only thing that could help me and alot of others on this site.
I bought BETAINE PEPSINE a while ago and i took just one pill
the next morning my stomack was killing me i couldn´t even stand straight and even my anus was hurding me, i felt so bad that day.So that is one of the reasons i don´t wanna try all these things anymore it makes you suffer even more when you find out that it doesn´t help (SUFFER IN SILENCE).
Today it´s Christmas and my whole family comes to visit and i´m so scared but i have to go true it.Tomorrow is a new day and it will all be over i just gotta be strong.I don´t wanna go trough this anymore in 2008 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!
I will let you guys no if i found someone who can do that laser thing.
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Billie,
Your english is fine (I do not know how to speak dutch so you are way better than me). Many of us feel the way you do. I am working now to save money to go to Dr. Krepi in New York. That is the least expensive route for me. I hope that it is same procedure as that performed in Israel, otherwise I will have to save for another year and a half. I really hope you can hang in there until you can find the funding to do the procedure. All the best Billie. We are all with you.
For the cure!!!
Sean
Your english is fine (I do not know how to speak dutch so you are way better than me). Many of us feel the way you do. I am working now to save money to go to Dr. Krepi in New York. That is the least expensive route for me. I hope that it is same procedure as that performed in Israel, otherwise I will have to save for another year and a half. I really hope you can hang in there until you can find the funding to do the procedure. All the best Billie. We are all with you.
For the cure!!!
Sean
i don't believe anymore that a somewhat rough back of tongue could be responsible for such a strong and permanent odor..
Sure, hiding places in the mouth will amplify the problem, but what you might want to try before getting the surgery is getting your flora back into place.. I've yet to try it, but it's next on my list.. Probiotics and possibly that Activa yogurt.
It makes sense to me that if the hiding places are smelling so horrible, then the bacteria that is making it's way into those spots must be way out of whack..
I don't mean to belittle other opinions, but lasering the back of the tongue seems like a gimmick... There's always going to be some place for bacteria to hide in your mouth. If you're simply trying to remove places for the bacteria to hide, you might as well have your entire tongue cut out
.. Tonsil removal seems legit though, as people sometimes do (like me) have enormous holes that literally fill up with the most offensive gunk imagineable.
Sure, hiding places in the mouth will amplify the problem, but what you might want to try before getting the surgery is getting your flora back into place.. I've yet to try it, but it's next on my list.. Probiotics and possibly that Activa yogurt.
It makes sense to me that if the hiding places are smelling so horrible, then the bacteria that is making it's way into those spots must be way out of whack..
I don't mean to belittle other opinions, but lasering the back of the tongue seems like a gimmick... There's always going to be some place for bacteria to hide in your mouth. If you're simply trying to remove places for the bacteria to hide, you might as well have your entire tongue cut out
.. Tonsil removal seems legit though, as people sometimes do (like me) have enormous holes that literally fill up with the most offensive gunk imagineable.I agree with you mike987. When I first started coming here, I believed that the source of my bb was something in my mouth. After getting my tonsillectomy and doing more research though, there is no way that a person who suffers from chronic halitosis cannot have a deeper problem in their body. BB is a very complex problem and it's easy to get frustrated when there is no single cure for each individual's situation.
Yes it's complex but there's no need to over-complicate things.
If you scan your oral cavity and find that the furthest back of the tongue (the lingual tonsil area) smells about 1000 times worse than any other areas, it's logical to shut that place down for bacteria. That wouldn't take care of the bigger picture (ie why do we have this bacterial set-up in the first place), but I'm sure it would help our daily bb lives a great deal *if* that area was smoother.
Billie, please let me know if you find some place with knowledge of how to do this. I'm in Scandinavia but could probably travel to anywhere in Europe who'd do it professionally...
Is it even possible to smoothen that area properly?
I found this article (it's pretty old-school though):
http://www.halitos.se/pdf/CO2Laser.pdf
PS. Lingual tonsils are on the back third (the bumpy part) of the tongue.
If you scan your oral cavity and find that the furthest back of the tongue (the lingual tonsil area) smells about 1000 times worse than any other areas, it's logical to shut that place down for bacteria. That wouldn't take care of the bigger picture (ie why do we have this bacterial set-up in the first place), but I'm sure it would help our daily bb lives a great deal *if* that area was smoother.
Billie, please let me know if you find some place with knowledge of how to do this. I'm in Scandinavia but could probably travel to anywhere in Europe who'd do it professionally...
Is it even possible to smoothen that area properly?
I found this article (it's pretty old-school though):
http://www.halitos.se/pdf/CO2Laser.pdf
PS. Lingual tonsils are on the back third (the bumpy part) of the tongue.
Hey Larc400
I`ve send an email to 2 dentist and i got one back.
They told me that they worked alot with laser but that they didn´t laser the back of the tongue.
I´m just glad that they´ve send me an email back.
I´m just gonna keep emailing all the dentist and dokters maybe one day i´ll be lucky !
You should do it too maybe you find one in Scandinavia.
Where from Scandinavia are you ? wich country
I`ve send an email to 2 dentist and i got one back.
They told me that they worked alot with laser but that they didn´t laser the back of the tongue.
I´m just glad that they´ve send me an email back.
I´m just gonna keep emailing all the dentist and dokters maybe one day i´ll be lucky !
You should do it too maybe you find one in Scandinavia.
Where from Scandinavia are you ? wich country
I think it's mainly specialist clinics who would do a thing like this. Maybe not dentists, more like private Ear-Nose-Throat clinics...
I'm currently in Sweden. I mailed a laser clinic but they didn't even respond. I'll try more though
At least we should try to find someone anywhere in the world who has some expert knowledge about this. We need to know if it's actually possible to make that area smooth (=no pockets for bacteria) and whether that would have any serious side effects.
So does the back of your tongue produce a very strong aroma..?
I'm currently in Sweden. I mailed a laser clinic but they didn't even respond. I'll try more though
At least we should try to find someone anywhere in the world who has some expert knowledge about this. We need to know if it's actually possible to make that area smooth (=no pockets for bacteria) and whether that would have any serious side effects.
So does the back of your tongue produce a very strong aroma..?
I am wondering why is it that you aren't considering Dr Finkelstein instead? Even for the Americans, you may travel but I'd like to think it would be more affordable to fly to Israel instead. Another thing is that, Dr Finkel seems to be the leading proponent of this procedure. Why skip him when you have the resources to do so?
I can´t just go to Israel Jon1982
It´s to expensive and what am i going to tell my family ? that i´m going to Israel for a nice vacation (I DON´T THINK SO) I can´t just tell them that i´m going to laser my tongue.
I never go anywhere i´m always at home the only thing i do is going to work and babysit my nephews. It would be verry strange if i go to Israel all of a sudden.
My tongue feels verry dirty larc400 i always have a nasty taste in my mouth.
When i brush my tongue ít feels clean for 20 min or something and when i eat something it just feels nasty and taste nasty for the rest of the day.
When i lick the back of my hand it smells bad
so i think it comes from my tongue but maybe i need to check if it comes from somewhere else i dunno.
Have you tried MAGNOLIA BARK ?
It´s to expensive and what am i going to tell my family ? that i´m going to Israel for a nice vacation (I DON´T THINK SO) I can´t just tell them that i´m going to laser my tongue.
I never go anywhere i´m always at home the only thing i do is going to work and babysit my nephews. It would be verry strange if i go to Israel all of a sudden.
My tongue feels verry dirty larc400 i always have a nasty taste in my mouth.
When i brush my tongue ít feels clean for 20 min or something and when i eat something it just feels nasty and taste nasty for the rest of the day.
When i lick the back of my hand it smells bad
so i think it comes from my tongue but maybe i need to check if it comes from somewhere else i dunno.
Have you tried MAGNOLIA BARK ?
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You have to be careful here, like the other gy was in Britain in laser clinic and they did a faulty job. Rememeber some of those laser doctors dont know shit about BB. But the Finkelstein should be an expert in that field.
THe only reason I promote him is beacause he was all over internet on the biggest websites like bbc, reuters with his technique and knowledge.
So he must be the best I think. And he is working on the tongue solution also.
Funy is that Finkels criticize halitomafia and halitomafia claims Finkels have no idea what he is doing.
But I trust Finkels more than halitomafia for now.
THe only reason I promote him is beacause he was all over internet on the biggest websites like bbc, reuters with his technique and knowledge.
So he must be the best I think. And he is working on the tongue solution also.
Funy is that Finkels criticize halitomafia and halitomafia claims Finkels have no idea what he is doing.
But I trust Finkels more than halitomafia for now.
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I agree i got the lazer treatmen done by krespi and it didn't cure me, theres no way those tinny holes he showed me are causing such an awfull swer smellI agree with you mike987. When I first started coming here, I believed that the source of my bb was something in my mouth. After getting my tonsillectomy and doing more research though, there is no way that a person who suffers from chronic halitosis cannot have a deeper problem in their body. BB is a very complex problem and it's easy to get frustrated when there is no single cure for each individual's situation.
I agree with mike987 too, the problem can´t be just in our mouth.
If our mouth was the only problem, then it wouldn´t be so hard to get cured
There is something wrong in our body and if they say that BB is caused by bad bacteria,
then i think that colon cleansing is a good start of getting rid of bad bacteria.
If our mouth was the only problem, then it wouldn´t be so hard to get cured
There is something wrong in our body and if they say that BB is caused by bad bacteria,
then i think that colon cleansing is a good start of getting rid of bad bacteria.
