elliott wrote:
Of course I have researched GERD. Keep in mind WE are the ones with BB everyday of our lives. You don't have BB, so you are relying on science, which has no answers. Don't assume you automatically know more than we do about our own condition. We have everyday of our lives to deal with this and try to figure out what is going on, and most of us have exercised all possibilities that we can.
I'm glad that you admit that bacteria may not be generated completely from the mouth. It was sounding like you want to stress oral, so people will buy your mouth rinse and think it is a cure. Well, there are other sources that feed the mouth, so it's not that simple.
You high percentages are advertisements. They look good to readers, but you can't fool me buddy. I HAVE BB, so lets keep the discussion real here. I am starting to see the concerns that our friend Jimi had in the 1st place. I don't doubt your sincerity, but have some respect for us. You benefit from our knowledge as well.
Heres an offer to consider though to prove that I'm full of shit. You cure me. I'll make a donation that is 10X the cost of treatment. Or I pay for other members here to be cured. Either way. You don't cure me, I get 50% off. (90% rate of success, so it won't matter to you, right)
Elliott, you raise a number of points. I will address them in reverse sequence.
5) Negotiation for treatment is not on the table. Even if I was a person who could negotiate this (which I am not), it would not happen for the simple reason that scientists don't do business that way.
4) The high percentages are scientific fact. I made a promise to be honest here, and I always am to the best of my ability. You don't have to believe me - that's your prerogative. Please remember, I am not the BreathDoc, and I do not have her experience or expertise. But I'm not sure why you have such a hard time accepting the facts about BB that I am reporting to you. If you don't mind being more specific I will address your questions as best I can.
3) In terms of severe chronic and persistent halitosis, in almost all cases the originating problem is in the mouth. For example: out of 4000 cases, 3 were diagnosed as TMAU, 2 as hiatal hernia. This is an extremely small number of cases not involving oral bacteria as a primary cause.
I have made many posts describing the corollary effects of this infection. I realise that it is tiring to read every post, but pls also keep in mind that it is tiring to post the same information over & over.
Also - let me stress this - I am NOT here to sell rinses. If anything, I want to let you know that a treatment system exists that works better for severe cases than less severe cases.
It is unique, it is based purely on biochemistry, it works, and it is not inexpensive. Also it is not a cure! It is a treatment that controls halitosis so effectively that only you and your clinician will know that you ever had BB.
2) Of course "science" has answers - just not
all of the answers. Are you saying that 'most of the answers' is the same as 'no answers'? If so, that would be a very unscientific conclusion.
Please understand that I know CH is a horrible thing to deal with. Maybe you would rather lose a limb than have this affliction any longer. If I had the disease and such a choice with no possibility of a cure/treatment I might be very well thinking along those lines myself.
However, Elliott, it is a fact that you are not a biochemist. Nor are most BB victims. Despite all the schemes, regimes, surgeries and diets you may try, you will still not discover the "cure".
A scientist who has studied oral malodour for 15 years, and who has successfully treated thousands of chronic halitosis sufferers, certainly DOES know a lot more about severe chronic malodour than you do.
1) Please pardon me if I ask simple questions. I do not know you, so I must ask obvious questions and not make assumptions.