metrogyl 200

[noptical]

I have also read that people who take antibiotics should acompany them with an antifungal, so that once the antibiotic course is done, there isn't an overgrowth of opportunistic candida.

I can confirm this!!! I've heard a million people saying that!

As I said, when i stopped metronidazole my breath came back much worse than before. I started an anti-fungal treatment today, and already my breath is almost %100 better. I can keep taking probiotics as the antifungal will not kill the good bacteria.

That explains it all!!! See, you took metronidazole, it killed the bacteria but the bb came back worse than it was! How do you explain that? It should be at most as bad as before and not worse! Because back with your old bb before metro, your bb got THAT far and not worse and why it just stopped there?
This shows that the cause of your new bb is something different. And that should be fungi! I really think you should continue the antifungal treatment and please report back!

[jess]

Sorry waitingforrelief for not answering your question sooner. There are a lot of posts everyday on this site, and I've missed a lot of them, cause between school and work, I have very little time to do anything else.

What is helping me is taking probiotics. Other things have helped also, such as not eating meat, taking zinc supplements, and internal cleansing, but I feel the best result come from taking the probiotic. I've tried many kinds of probiotics so far, but the one I feel a huge relief from is: "PerioImmune" from Perio-Defense FMD kit. They sell the kit at many websites, but I think that perio-tek is the main site, not sure. As I said before, I still suffer from bb, but the intensity of it is much less. And I don't have that fecal taste in my mouth and in the back of my throat anymore.

The disadvantage of this product is that it comes as a kit containing two other products which I don't feel is helping me much. So I will try to write the manufacturer, asking them to sell the PerioImmune separately.

thanks for the reply, jess. maybe i'll look into the kind that you're trying. the problem is, i was on the probiotic track for over a month - but it's like my body has built resistance to it. i found the strain L. Salivarius to be very helpful for me and it seemed like it almost completely took away the breath for a while. then i had to keep increasing the dosage, and then it just didn't really work anymore. in the end, my breath got worse whenever the effect of the probiotics died off. and i think my body is suffering from some kind of side effects from over-using probiotics as well...

so it's a little scary to go that route again... i tried to look into the ingredients of perioimmune but coudln't find it. i am now trying to drink kefir instead. just started on that, so i don't know if it'll help.

i believe that my system needs a complete overhaul. and that i'll have to look beyond halitosis itself. i can feel that my body is simply not a "well-oiled machine", so to speak. what kind of cleansing are you doing? because i'm looking into it myself - have already ordered some supplies. but honestly kind of scared about doing it.

sometimes i get so depressed having this problem, at others i know that it is simply a sign that my body is telling me something's not working. but it's hard to not get overwhelmed by what might and and what's worked for whom, what i think it is related to other health issues, etc.etc...

you sound like you've got your two feet on the ground and that you have a pretty healthy attitude toward it all. thanks for your input.[/quote]



To waitingforrelief:

Here are the ingredients: http://www.perio-tek.com/periodontal_pr ... me-kit.php
As I said before, only the perioImmune I found to be helpful from their kit.


The first internal cleansing I did is the "colonix", from drnatura.com. Again, I didn't feel it having a direct impact on my breath, but my whole body felt great after the program. I plan on doing another cleansing with their "toxinout" program pretty soon, cause I believe in detoxifying the body.

[C]

My bb has not yet reappeared. Maybe others should try it too, it might work.

C, congrats! that's very good news.

could you share with us how/what your bb and bb-related conditions were like?

maybe it'll shed some light on who the metro could help and who may not benefit from it.

thanks so much.

Yes, well done. How long did you suffer from bad breath?

I have been suffering from bb for almost 4 years, I was 14 when it striked me, I am now 18. It was not that bad in the beggining, but it progressively got worse. All these years I have been rarely talking, always trying to avoid others to smell my breath.
My bb was not always constant, in the winter it's worse, in summer it's(a little) better (I think). I still have PND and a coated tongue.
I'm not a specialist but I belive my bb was connected with anaerobic bacteria in the tonsils. Because

Under recurrent antibiotic treatments, or from unknown causes, the rich bacterial flora, which exists in the core of the tonsils, is shifting to species resistant to penicillin. The flora composition changes from the most common organisms are aerobic gram-positive cocci such as staphylococci and streptococci toward the anaerobic bacteria such as Pravotela, Fusobacterium species, and Peptococus, which are known to produce volatile sulphide gas as H2S and CH3SH. Parts of the patients suffering from bad breath have been suffered many years especially during childhood from recurrent tonsillitis and instead of surgery they underwent recurrent antibiotic treatments.

, and metronidazole is designed for

Anaerobic bacterial infections such as Bacteroides fragilis, spp, Fusobacterium spp, Clostridium spp, Peptostreptococcus spp, Prevotella spp (...)

If you have other questions I will gladly answer.

[coeric]

ok. my metronidazol finally came in the mail today, two courses of flagyl 250mg by aventis (should i ever need a second course.)

also, the doc at my local clinic gave me a course of ketek (telithromycin) 400mg for a sinus infection last summer. the infection had gotten better so i never took the medicine. he had described ketek as a high-end antibiodic.

what i want to ask is should i take both the flagyl and ketek at the same time for my halitosis? can a person take two antibiodics at once? people on h pylori treatment take three at a time dont they?

im not allergic to anything, how should i go about this?

[waitingforrelief]

ok. my metronidazol finally came in the mail today, two courses of flagyl 250mg by aventis (should i ever need a second course.)

also, the doc at my local clinic gave me a course of ketek (telithromycin) 400mg for a sinus infection last summer. the infection had gotten better so i never took the medicine. he had described ketek as a high-end antibiodic.

what i want to ask is should i take both the flagyl and ketek at the same time for my halitosis? can a person take two antibiodics at once? people on h pylori treatment take three at a time dont they?

im not allergic to anything, how should i go about this?

coeric,

i can't give you any advice on whether you should take them together - but i would strongly advise against mixing prescription medications without proper medical guidance. at worst it can be very dangerous, and not effective at best.

maybe you should call up your doctor for advice?

[noptical]

ok. my metronidazol finally came in the mail today, two courses of flagyl 250mg by aventis (should i ever need a second course.)

also, the doc at my local clinic gave me a course of ketek (telithromycin) 400mg for a sinus infection last summer. the infection had gotten better so i never took the medicine. he had described ketek as a high-end antibiodic.

what i want to ask is should i take both the flagyl and ketek at the same time for my halitosis? can a person take two antibiodics at once? people on h pylori treatment take three at a time dont they?

im not allergic to anything, how should i go about this?

Dont do this. Worst thing ever. Antibiotics arent just simple drugs, they can be as harmless as useful they are.

[coeric]

well im down to my last four doses of flagyl. to describe the last week, i would say it was good. my bad breath isnt completely gone but it had not been better in ten years. ive only been brushing twice a day with colgate toothpaste. it's been fine. i can even eat anything i want and my breath is fine afterwards. smoking though, is something else. i cant do that at all without it drying my mouth and the bad breath instantly coming back.

anyway, four more doses and my halitosis will probably be back with a vengeance. but who knows. ill keep you updated. i kind of feel that in the future, if theres ever going to be a cure for this problem then it would probably invlove this antibiotic in some way.

[stinky]

Any one on here know a reliable place on the internet to get Metronidazole im thinking of tring it

[coeric]

i got mine from 247-pharmacy. the drug is packaged and feels like it's real, but who really knows. 2 weeks for arrival.

[Jimi Stein]

come on people

stop this lousy experiment

[succ]

come on people

stop this lousy experiment

I don't think so. Even if only one of us was cured, it would be worth it.

[austuser]

whatever happened to "C"? He said after one week of stopping metro that his bad breath still hadnt reappeared.

I wonder if this is still the case..

[jess]

Any one on here know a reliable place on the internet to get Metronidazole im thinking of tring it

If this is a prescription drug I don't think you should try to buy it over the internet. I mean this is very unsafe. Who knows what they would put in these tablets or caps?

[LJ]

There's a perilous route out there being taken by many people and it is cure chasing. Someone appears on a website and suddenly by virtue of their presence and their claim of a cure; people will suddenly give them credibility.
Why would people come on though to do such things? Because people are ****ing weird. If I were to join a support group, say for cancer; I read all the posts and learn what everyone is doing; a little research; and then I get on their with my cure for cancer; a combination of herbs and gun powder (I don't know); how many desperate people do you suspect would try this?
Well, it's just like us; we're cancer victims; we've been told the worse news; you have something incurable; if it doesn't kill, it will still want to make you die.
There is some truth to this antibiotic route; it will cure you bb for the time you are on it; afterwards you will be instantly imbalanced beyond where you were before; then it's worse until "your own body" rebalances it.
People with TMAU use this antibiotic for short stretches just so they can enjoy, albeit short, odor free time.
As far as adding antifungals and probiotics to this; I would want more information; from someone who is older than 18; and to really know if it is worth putting my body thru all of that.
My last remark is the dude, C, said he uses colgate toothpaste; that pretty much excludes him from the chronic, entrenched halitosians that I know and love.
Why colgate is an odor producer for our types. I can't imagine that he would go thru all of that and be able to use colgate. (anyone else out there complaining about bb and using colgate; I have no pity for you; you are part of your own problem.) Laura

[jess]

I agree LJ. I think we should be very careful of new people suddenly appearing with a "cure".