metrogyl 200

[stinky]

I am thinking of trying it beacsue I can trace my condition back 10 years ago when I took penicillin for an infection. After this my condition started. I believe it started becasue the penicillin killed the good bacteria in my mouth but penicillin is ineffective against gram negative bacteria which cause bad breath. As a result the gram negative bacteria which causes bad breath took over and flourished.

Gram-negative bacteria are inherently resistant to penicillin because their vulnerable cell wall is protected by an outer membrane that prevents permeation of the penicillin molecule.

I was hoping by taking metronidazole it would kill the gram negative bacteria aswell. I was hoping this would restore the balance in my mouth thus curing my bad breath.

However I am aware from studies that the gram negative bacteria are much more aggresive than the positive ones and so this may not work. I am also wary of taking anti biotics aswell as this is what caused my problems in first place.

However I am thinking of trying it.

[C]

whatever happened to "C"? He said after one week of stopping metro that his bad breath still hadnt reappeared.

I wonder if this is still the case..

My bb has not reappeared.

come on people

stop this lousy experiment

You are not very openminded.

My last remark is the dude, C, said he uses colgate toothpaste; that pretty much excludes him from the chronic, entrenched halitosians that I know and love.
Why colgate is an odor producer for our types. I can't imagine that he would go thru all of that and be able to use colgate. (anyone else out there complaining about bb and using colgate; I have no pity for you; you are part of your own problem.) Laura

I don't remember that I said on the forum that I use colgate.It's true, but I don't always use the same toothpaste. If colgate is causing your bb, why doesn't the bb dissapear if you stop using it? It's a good thing that there are "experts" who can decide who has chronic halitosis and who doesn't.
All I can say is that my bb was not caused by thoothpastes.

[waitingforrelief]

hey C. good for you. i'm glad something is working out.

how long have you been off it now? would you mind describing your breath problem before so we can maybe find out a pattern of why it helped you but not some others?

what was the quality of the breath? what kind of odor did you have? (did you have a fecal odor?) just one kind of smell or a few? how bad was your problem? did you have other related health issues such as dry mouth/sinus problems/digestive problems? what other solutions did NOT work for you?

besides improving your breath, did the metrogyl make you feel different otherwise?

sorry for the barrage of questions. just hoping to find something that helps. any little bit of info helps.

thanks.

[C]

hey C. good for you. i'm glad something is working out.

how long have you been off it now? would you mind describing your breath problem before so we can maybe find out a pattern of why it helped you but not some others?

what was the quality of the breath? what kind of odor did you have? (did you have a fecal odor?) just one kind of smell or a few? how bad was your problem? did you have other related health issues such as dry mouth/sinus problems/digestive problems? what other solutions did NOT work for you?

besides improving your breath, did the metrogyl make you feel different otherwise?

sorry for the barrage of questions. just hoping to find something that helps. any little bit of info helps.

thanks.

I have been suffering from bb for almost 4 years, I was 14 when it striked me, I am now 18. It was not that bad in the beggining, but it progressively got worse. All these years I have been rarely talking, always trying to avoid others to smell my breath.
My bb was not always constant, in the winter it's worse, in summer it's(a little) better (I think). I still have PND and a coated tongue.
I'm not a specialist but I belive my bb was connected with anaerobic bacteria in the tonsils.

I think I finished the treatment on Jan 26.
I don't really know if my bb was fecal odor or not, I didn't dare to ask somebody about this. The intensity was not always the same. I don't have mouth/sinus problems/digestive problems.
About other solution that didn't work: propolis, treatment for candida, aloe vera and other treatments for detoxification.
No, the metronidazole didn't make me feel different, except the breath

[LJ]

Hello again C this is L;
Until I hear your story, which maybe quite the fabrication, Iook forward to it; I have no idea what you're talking about. Noboby is cured of chronic, entrenched halitosis by one round of metrol aka flagyl.
there is not one shred of evidence to support this; but yet you persist. Maybe you should just take this little idea of yours and go over the curezone; they'll believe anything there. They might want to use it on their asses which so interest them.
And you don't remember you said you used Colgate; what else don't you remember? Liars have a difficult time remembering details.
Good luck and good bye. I hope Jimi is smart enough to send your stupid ass packing. Thanks for the laugh though. Laura

[waitingforrelief]

Hello again C this is L;
Until I hear your story, which maybe quite the fabrication, Iook forward to it; I have no idea what you're talking about. Noboby is cured of chronic, entrenched halitosis by one round of metrol aka flagyl.
there is not one shred of evidence to support this; but yet you persist. Maybe you should just take this little idea of yours and go over the curezone; they'll believe anything there. They might want to use it on their asses which so interest them.
And you don't remember you said you used Colgate; what else don't you remember? Liars have a difficult time remembering details.
Good luck and good bye. I hope Jimi is smart enough to send your stupid ass packing. Thanks for the laugh though. Laura

this seems to be between LJ and C, but i'm compelled to say something.

I for one appreciate anyone's input even if their condition is not as serious. there's no reason for C to come back and report the result, but he did. even if it doesn't help anyone else, the thought and effort needs to be appreciated. bb has obviously troubled him - if not as much as you or me, it is not a reason to dismiss the pain that he had gone thru', or the result that he is experiencing now. and i remember my bb was a lot less severe when i was 18. maybe that's why it's much easier for him to be treated.

and on the fact that he's 18, i appreciate even more that he has the compassion for other people to come back and try to help other people with bb.

C is not the only person who said that one course of metrogyl cured his breath problem. the guest who started this thread said the same thing. who are we to say that we know EXACTLY what'd happen to everybody and what'd work? we all have different causes of bb, and that's why it's so hard to treat. what gives us the right to call someone a liar just because it's a way that doesn't work for some of us?

even if (BIG IF) you really have a reason to doubt what he said, you really don't have proof that he's lying. in a support forum like this one, why are we the first to cast the first stone, make the worst out of any human being? and if you are like that, what makes you think that the world should treat YOU any differently? it is afer all the internet. we don't always know if people are telling the truth. but please, if you choose to see the worst in people all the time, that's what you'll get from the world. do you want to be seen as purely the smelly one? you probably will if you pick the worst side of someone (whether it's true or not) and pick on them about that.

And even if someone's lying, SO WHAT?!

they have not insulted anyone, have not spoken any word of harm. as an adult, you are faced with choices everyday. what news story to read, what movie to see, what tv show not to let your kids see. you don't go and beat up on everyone who's offereing the world something that you don't appreciate. you say, "nah, that's not for me." and you move on. would you appreciate it if someone had to pounce on you and beat you up because you have bad breath even tho' you can't do anything about it?

if you project your bitterness and anger of having bb to the world, you are no better than your breath. if you dictate and try to not let people say what's true to them, you are no better than people who make fun of your breath, who don't allow you the freedom to be yourself. everybody has difficulties. i for one would still rather have my bb than say losing my limbs or be blind or something. people, it's one thing to have a pity party every once in a while. it's a whole other to let our experience with bb poison our whole selves. if we treat each other with so little respect, compassion, gratitude, how can we expect people who don't have bb to treat us properly? and what is this honor badge of the more you suffer, the more you deserve to be here? i have a friend who stinks so bad with bb and body odor that it's impossible to sit next to him without getting his smell all over me. he doesn't seem to ever care. he lives a much happier life than a lot of people with WAY less odor. how much we suffer is dictated by our experience, personality, etc.. it's all subjective. it's senseless to judge each other by how they feel/how severe their condition is.

it's important that we stay open and welcoming and supportive of each other - yes, even if someone is no longer suffering from it. How we treat each other, and anybody really - is what you are going to get from the world. it may not always be an equal deal. the world might still treat you a little less well even if you treat others well. but if anger and bitterness is what one offers, there's really no point in expecting others to not treat you the same way.

so C, i'm sure i can speak for at least some people when i say thank you. and please don't take any insults that you read on here to heart. i wish you all the luck and hope that bb will not bother you again.

[noptical]

waiting for relief, well said.

C, dont get discouraged by some people here, thanks for reporting back and be sure that there are always people here who appreciate your effort

[LJ]

this seems to be between LJ and C, but i'm compelled to say something.



Waiting for relief, I appreciate your reaction to what I said. I am not normally one to turn to this type of attitude to deal with the people; but I've been on these boards for several years now and I've seen a lot of different things turn up.
Now I get irritated. And as you said, compelled to say something.
C is not what you think he is; guest is not who you think he is? Have you talked to either of them by telephone? Have you met them in person?
what is it that you utilize to differentiate between someone who could be fabricating; if not just exaggerating; maybe looking for attention he or she doesn't get at home?
It's weird, but on these boards amongst the desperate people come some strange things. And if you have done your research you will note that there are no studies that indicate Flagyl can permanently cure bad breath.
Let's say, C, comes on and says something like this: "Oh, I've had some bad breath for a few years now, I'm young still 18; I saw a doctor who prescribed Flagyl for me; for some reason it seems to have worked. I asked my friends and family and they think it has worked for me. I also have researched it, and it seems unexplained as to why it worked; but I may not have a chronic disorder. I don't really know why it worked. But I'm posting to reccommend you do some digging and talk to your doctor. email me with your questions, I'll try to answer."
Now there's a post I would be interested in. There's a post which looks like it has some truth to it.
My concern and only concern really is that we stay away from cure chasing; it's dangerous and may lead to harmful effects.
As far as who has what and we should all be included or something like that: well, there are going to be degrees, levels of this disorder. Some are quite easy to cure; others are nay impossible. We need to know if someone has a hint of odor or chronic odor.
That can help indentify what the problem is and how it's treated.
I'm sorry if you took offense to my aggressive post.
I've read most of your posts now and you seem sincere. Notice i didn't mistrust you or feel a need to lash out at you. That's because you are just trying to find some answers. But wait a while; you will see them coming; the cure maniacs.
They've got it baby; the power; we need it.
Certainly do what you like; just be careful. Laura

[LJ]

My bb was not always constant, in the winter it's worse, in summer it's(a little) better (I think). I still have PND and a coated tongue.

Does this describe or relate to anyone elses bb on this site? Let me know. Laura

[LJ]

Dont do this. Worst thing ever. Antibiotics arent just simple drugs, they can be as harmless as useful they are.

Noptical, I'm sure you meant as harmful as useful as they are. And you would be correct. I'm going to tell you why this particular string scares me. First, I have a disability from taking antibiotics; visually and physically impaired now. Permanent damage.
They are certainly nothing to be trifled with; bought over the internet; done without supervision; mixed indiscriminantly with other antibiotics.
If you read thru this whole 9 pages, you have people that are willing to put anything in their body no matter what; just to get relief.
But did they compare their symptoms; seasonal symptoms Guest was dealing with?
Are you all 18. with only a few years of minor odor?
We watched the tyra episode; what did we learn from that for God's sake?
Just be careful folks; and don't jump so fast when You hear what you want to hear. You may end up with something more than just bad breath to deal with. Laura

[coeric]

LJ, whats the purpose of making three consecutive posts within the same thread? ive browsed what you have to say and find your posts bewildering. i see a lot of feelings and opionions, with very few facts, and it is rather hard to find a point out of any of it.

anyway, guys, id like to report on my status. it's been exactly one day since i finished the course of metro and am happy to say the bad breath hasnt come back yet. so here's hoping for more of the same. it is not 100% gone, but i think it is similair to what others who had success have reported: a little morning breath that doesnt last long, and clean for the rest of the day. for me personally, it does smell bad whenever i smoke cigarettes because of the dry mouth issue. but about 15-20 minutes after that the smell is back to good again.

i do have a concern about the doses of metro i took though, in that im not sure if it was the right amount. mine were labelled 250mg and i took 3 per day until i finished 20 of them (1 packet). that is 6.5 days. im guessing this is the right amount but the place i ordered it from sent me 2 packets (their minimum with each metro order). i wonder if i should finish the other packet too. no instructions came with them.

anyway, how has everyone who took this drug doing?

[LJ]

I don't why you're bewildered; you can understand the point; the danger.
Oh, I take that back, you just self medicated. Obvisously your health and the health of others is of no concern to you.
Why you're just the type to have around when you need to justify doing something stupid.
Many of us have been where you are...chasing a cure like a scared rabbit. I understand that it's not easy.
Just be careful man, and don't hurt yourself...Laura

[coeric]

no one is questioning your stance, just your delivery. it would be helpful to others if you could merge what you have to say into one post instead of repeatedly following up your own post. yes you are a safe cracker. that is clear. but people have to sift through all of your emotions before finding the bones of this thread.

[waitingforrelief]

LJ, whats the purpose of making three consecutive posts within the same thread? ive browsed what you have to say and find your posts bewildering. i see a lot of feelings and opionions, with very few facts, and it is rather hard to find a point out of any of it.

anyway, guys, id like to report on my status. it's been exactly one day since i finished the course of metro and am happy to say the bad breath hasnt come back yet. so here's hoping for more of the same. it is not 100% gone, but i think it is similair to what others who had success have reported: a little morning breath that doesnt last long, and clean for the rest of the day. for me personally, it does smell bad whenever i smoke cigarettes because of the dry mouth issue. but about 15-20 minutes after that the smell is back to good again.

i do have a concern about the doses of metro i took though, in that im not sure if it was the right amount. mine were labelled 250mg and i took 3 per day until i finished 20 of them (1 packet). that is 6.5 days. im guessing this is the right amount but the place i ordered it from sent me 2 packets (their minimum with each metro order). i wonder if i should finish the other packet too. no instructions came with them.

anyway, how has everyone who took this drug doing?

i wouldn't worry about a little morning breath - after all, not only people with halitosis have them. i think it'd be good to get some medical advice on whether you're supposed to take the rest of them. i'm happy that you've found a solution for now, but please do take care of your well-being and make sure that you're not harming yourself in any other ways.

for now, enjoy what you can as a bb-free person.

[stinky]

Found this patent while browsing.

Pharmaceutical dental gel preparation comprising of metronidazole benzoate, chlorhexidine gluconate, and local anesthetic as the active ingredient; glycol as the solvent medium; a carboxyvinyl polymer, cross-linked polymer of acrylic acid copolymerized with polyalkylsucrose as a gelling agent.

J. B. Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. (Mumbai, IN)

However couldnt find any product or distributor.

At least with this method u would not have the harmful side effects of metronidazole in ur body.