I Think Charcoal capsules may be a cure BB

[Flower]

Hi guys I am a new comer to this site I have bean reading and taking on a lot of your suggestions and thank you all an Jimi the founder.

I think I have been suffering from BB unknowingly can you believe it! for about two years! I never had BB until I started using Retadex please never use this product this will remove all good bacteria in your mouth and boy will you be in trouble. I read about it in a magazine one day and some model was advertising it at the time I used to smoke so I thought it would be a good idea to start using it, the good thing about the tooth paste and mouth wash was that it was making my teeth whiter. Anyway I stopped smoking January 2005.

I was a hair stylist and I started to get dropped by my best clients that I had for years people were offering me gum and now it got to a point where people started to back off when I was talking in a room. now I feel they can smell it even when I am six to ten feet away
I feel really depressed and embarrassed I quit my job as a stylist and now have job in a call centre where I only talk to people on the phone so no more direct contact and I am in my own cubicle I try not to speak to people close up and I had complaints from other people who use my gym class so I do high impact aerobics with my mouth shut and I try not to breath to hard.
I am not sure where its coming from I have PND and sometimes I get tonsil stones my tongue has become white since I started using hydrogen peroxide.
I got frustrated a few weeks back a when I was at a bar with some friends, where I only drank water by the way and they kept backing off when I was speaking so I went into the bathroom and took the 6% bottle of hydrogen peroxide out my bag and drank some neat and that really burned going all the way down to my stomach. I then drank a whole jug of water to ease the discomfort. After that they were still backing off and I was thinking I should have drank the whole bottle. I also think it may have something to do with my amalgam filling I have 13 that put in when I was in my early teens can someone tell me if this may have something to do with BB?
I have been to the dentist he said my dental hygiene is good which it is I have brush and flossed 4 times a day since I was 14 I am 30 now.

I have changed my diet and been a vegetarian for 8 months I have now been a full vegan for 3 months so I have had no dairy, no chocolate, no onions no garlic and no sugar products at all.


Anyway on a lighter note I have been following the vco thread and for those who don't know what that is that is virgin coconut oil.
I have been using it for three days with baking soda I have been seeing some improvements in taste in the back of my throat I have also been using ascorbic acid powder mixed in orange juice. I have also been taking Organic chlorophyll powder everyday for a week. I am also taking zinc plus adsorbate liquid.
All guns BLAZING LOLS!

I bought some Charcoal capsules and I have been taking them for two days and I believe with all of the above I have seen some improvement I don't have the bad taste in my mouth.

Activated charcoal is an insoluble black fibre that has been treated with oxygen,making it ideal to act as natural deodoriser in the body. Activated charcoal is able to adsorb and help remove a variety of substances and has been used as digestive aid for centries

I will write a daily and tell you if I see any improvement and if anyone can answer the question about amalgam it would really be helpful.
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[Flower]

I have been using the vco bicarbonate soda and the vitamin C powder along with the charcoal tablets and the chlorella and zinc am seeing some improvements for a few hours no bad taste in my mouth or in the back of my throat and I was able to speak close up to people with no odour all day for about 6 hours. I ate some spicy food and the effects kind of wore off towards the evening and bb returns its more from the back of my throat I think I will have to double my dose in the afternoon. I see what happens I will keep you posted.

[Sash]

Hey flower, first of all drinking hydrogen peroxide is NOT a good idea its toxic to your body and can cause internal damage! .. so please dont do that again.

Secondly for the tonsil stones, what worked for me was eliminating dairy from my diet and just gargling with either salt water or grapefruit seed extract - this is a liquid formula and should be diluted in warm water. the reviews of GSE are very positive online, i found it to relieve my bad breath at first but now i think the bacteria has become resistant.

Personally i think the problem for most of us suffereing a bacterial imbalance is from using these commercial and homemade mouthwashes that intime cause a more substantial imbalance of anaerobic and aeorobic bacteria, we need an eqaul balance and vigerously scraping our tongues and using these mouth rinses only makes the problem worse. We need a product (treatment) that balances out both bacteria instead of just killing both off.

Anyway could you give me a little more info on the products your using now, were you bought them from etc! thnx

[Flower]

Thank you for the information you are right about HP I wont be swallowing that again my stomach has been burning since and feel a bit uncomfortable when I eat peppery food.
I will try the Grape Seed and see how it works for me but I must admit my heart sank when you said it worked for a while and then the bacteria became resistant GOD! I feel like crying is there no hope?

In regards to the product I am using Biona organic Virgin coconut oil raw from whole food shop (tastes divine)

Pure Vitamin C power ascorbic acid Biocare brand I think from whole foods also.

charcoal capsules from whole foods also

The Zinc is liquid and biocare brand

In regards to what you said about getting the right bacterial balance I bought some oral health pro biotic its called sun star GUM They are sugar free mint lozenges I bought them from Boots Chemist I am not sure if these will help and I am already having second thoughts as I prefer to get everything from a natural source of from the health shop and I am not sure if this is a bio chemical form so I may just take it back and get something more natural.

I am using normal baking soda from supermarket and hydrogen peroxide 6% from local chemist as I don't know where to find food grade 3%.

I am going to ENT next week as I need a diagnosis This BB is really starting to get me down.

Any idea what I should ask them to check for or any tests they should run on me Please?

[Sash]

I know how you feel its so frustrating having to deal with this horrible condition. The 'professionals' are no help whatsoever they just tell you to maintain good oral hygiene... erm do they think we are retarded! When you go to the the ENT you could ask about your post nasal drip, my guess would be that they will perscribe you with a nasal spray which is what the doctor has for me. I dont know if youve heard of it but there is a condition TMAU it is related to body odours including bb and effects 1 in 100 people, it might be worth mentioning and maybe getting tested for, dont be discarded if you hear the term fish odour used for TMAU its because most commonly sufferers give off a fishy smell. Have a scan through this forum there are a few posts discussing this condition.

Note its 'grapefruit seed extract' not grape seed extract, they are two seperate things. The brand i have is citrical, you can find it on amazon or naturalbest i think. Id advice you to use 6-8 drops diluted in a glass of water.. ive had some unpleasent experiences which left me crying in pain and a damaged tongue and gums! . yes i used too much

thanks for the info on the products, i will jot them down and have a look next time i go into town.

Can i just ask how you got a referal to an ENT, was it through the NHS? Its just i want to see an ENT and enquire about having a tonsillectomy and talk about my PND but ive been told you cant personally refer yourself to the ENT department at the hospital, they say only a profesional can.. and im getting nowhere with my doctor at the mo!

[Flower]

Yes Sandy the ENT referral is from my doctor NHS Now what you need to remember and what you DR needs to remember is that he is a GP which is a General Practitioner That means they generally know all the basic human body parts and a few symptoms have you ever noticed when you go to your gp he looks into the catologue given to him by the pharmaceutical company with the recommended drugs for that year and that is what they will prescribe. Sometime without even looking at the side affects they just what to get to the next patient so if I have any issues from some muscle pain to this PND I always insist that the doctor sends me to a specialist Because that is the Dr who is more likely to know what is going on with that particular issue. So if your doctor is being unhelpful you have the right to insist on seeing a specialist.

What do you think about the amalgam silver filling theory because they are so toxic and they are constantly letting out fumes do you Think they can contribute to BB


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[Flower]

I am feeling really good about the method I am using I believe its working I have not had anyone pulling away from me or turning their face and I have been talking to people close up and they don't do their usual flinch. I went to the ENT today an I asked the doctor to test me for Tmau which he said he can not because they do not have the equipment in this country for testing yet. But he has done the test for H pylori and a few other tests to give me a proper diagnosis. He also put a camera down my nasal passage and had a look at whats been going on down there in terms PND. He said there was no PND that he could see which means that my symptoms have improved as I cant feel PND either. He checked for my tonsil stones they are gone and my tongue is more pink and he said he could not smell a thing and he said it is his job to tell me if he can so he can perhaps identify where it coming from for him to determine the root cause.

The method I am using seems to be working so i am going to stay positive so far so good.


I will keep you posted

[halitosisux]

Flower, as far as I understand, some of the labs in the the countries that do TMAU testing have the facilities to arrange testing for people in other countries. Its likely to be quite expensive though (about £300). But its worth finding out when all other avenues have been explored, because its nothing compared to the costs we all spend trying other things, like tonsillectomies for example. Nobody wants to spend these sums just in the hope of finding out they have something they cant do anything about, but its better the devil you know than the devil you dont.

[Music Lady]

(I didn't want to start a new post for activated charcoal -- I knew there'd already be tons...)

Not sure how its helping folks but I found another interesting post on another board where this gentlemen takes 14 ACs at a time and says this has helped him.

That sounds a bit too brave for stomach -- I can feel the cramping just thinking about it. Anyways here it is:


"I also have the same problem and I have spend a lot of money to remedy my long time battle for bad breath. First, it started with a rotten teeth smell that really sucks coz I am actually a back-up singer and my collegues would literally move away from me because of my terrible smell. So I tried Mints (that help for several minutes only) then I tried all kinds of mouthwashes from cheap to the most expensive one (it still didn't solve the problem). And to my horror one morning I woke up and just thinking that I again would have to battle mingling with the crowd and choose not to speak because of my bad breath BUT lately I just realize that even without speaking they are still covering their nose. And I heard someone saying he smells like poofs! And one of my neice approach me and said "Tito why your nose smells like poofs?". And gosh! I ran back home and tried cleaning my nostrils and still no improvement! I go to work everyday and my boss and colleagues would not choose to sit beside me during meetings as I was doing a Project Management role. It really embarasses me as I am a very hygenic person and yet I have this terrible odor that I developed a year ago. It started from mouth bad breath then it elevated to Nose Odor. I had the thought of resigning from my Job as I can no longer take the mockery that my colleagues says to me whenever I overhear them saying "He is full of it" and would start to laugh! They also dont want to go with me during break time. I eat my lunch and dinner alone! I cried so many nights because of this curse! Because I almost tried everything including specialists and medications but noone and nothing solved my problem.
Until I have found a very effective cure from this site thru googling many hours: Organic Activated Charcoal is the answer! Take note not just an ordinary Activated Charcoal (Coz I tried that too and it only did a small development). It is a bit expensive but when I took the 14 capsules after my breakfast in one go and let it settle for 30 minutes in my stomach. I asked my neice if my nose still smells poofs. At first, she was hesistant because she knows how terrible the smell is! but she understand my pain after I explained that I was trying a medication called organic activated charcoal. And to her surprise and to my surprise she said "Tito the smell was gone! what did you do?"
I was totally relieved and when I arrived at work, at first my colleagues are covering their nose when I entered. And eventually they started talking to me and I can confirm that the odor coming from my nose and mouth are gone!
I am regularly taking my 14 capsules as I believe this is because of indigestion that all food particles stucked in my stomach began to rot that caused it to smell like poofs or rotten flesh! And would need all of it to be flushed away from my digestive system.
Ei guys spread the word as I know how painful it is to suffer from this kind of disease. Below is the link for the Organic Activated Charcoal. Make sure you buy this one but you are free to try other brands but as I told you i tried the other activated charcoal and nothing worked!
I am just trying to help you guys this was recommended to me by a friend. And thank God I am no longer in that bondage of curse!"


http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic81553.html

[nicc]

the post starter got BB from using Retardex?
that just doesn't make sense.

[nicc]

Hi Music Lady!!!
I'm glad you seem to have found a cure!
Is 14 cps the suggested daily intake of the product you bought or you had increase it?

by the way which brand are you using? thanks

[Music Lady]

Oh its not MY cure Nic.
I saw the post on ehealthforum and posted it here in case its helpful to anybody else.

He says he took 14 capsules at one time though. Sounds extreme to me I'm too afraid to try that much.
I haven't tried charcoal in a long while but when I did I never took more than two capsules and it never had any affect on my bb, but I have read other posts (in addt'n to this guys) where people say its helped them. Have you ever tried it?

[clara0]

@Musiclady: I found this:

As for halitosis, charcoal helps to eliminate oral odor, because it cleanses both the mouth and the digestive tract. Since the main cause of bad breath is found in the mouth, swishing some charcoal slurry around in the mouth will promptly neutralize most offensive breath.

In the case of an upset stomach after eating, whether one overate, ate wrong food combinations, ate too fast, ate meals too close together, ate too late at night, or ate food that was too old, you may be benefited by activated charcoal powder as a health aid. The foul odors produced by putrefaction in the stomach will be quickly adsorbed by activated charcoal.

It seems that it works when the smell is from mouth or stomach. But I am not sure if it is a cure or only eliminates the odour.

[nicc]

Have you ever tried it?

not yet, should I give it a try I'll certainly report back here.

[elliott]

@Musiclady: I found this:

As for halitosis, charcoal helps to eliminate oral odor, because it cleanses both the mouth and the digestive tract. Since the main cause of bad breath is found in the mouth, swishing some charcoal slurry around in the mouth will promptly neutralize most offensive breath.

In the case of an upset stomach after eating, whether one overate, ate wrong food combinations, ate too fast, ate meals too close together, ate too late at night, or ate food that was too old, you may be benefited by activated charcoal powder as a health aid. The foul odors produced by putrefaction in the stomach will be quickly adsorbed by activated charcoal.

It seems that it works when the smell is from mouth or stomach. But I am not sure if it is a cure or only eliminates the odour.

The charcoal must work better for you than me!

After weeks of using it (with the intended dosage), it had little to no effect, based on the reaction I had after asking about it.

Not sure about "quickly" and "most". May be a little misleading and cause people to jump on these little tablets. Might work for you, might not. Or maybe is something that takes months or years, as most cures probably do.

It does something though. I can tell by the bowel movements... it causes food to break down differently, I'd say, not as well. I can see last night's dinner in there, mixed in with the black/green charcoal!