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[multiple causes]

but, if you have tonsil stones, you are always going to stink unless you have your tonsils cut out! If you don't floss, you will stink. If you don't scrape your tongue in the morning, you will stink. If you don't drink a lot of water, your mouth will be dry and you will have a sour smelling breath. If you go to bed at night without using the rinse first, you will not have success. Please don't drink coffee either, and avoid garlic in your food and raw onion,

Listen to me. I have more experience than most of you. Start your day like this.1. Rinse and gargle with Listerine pre brush
2. scrape your tongue all the way from the back until the scraper isn't white. 3. Brush your teeth, do it for a few minutes, finish with brushing the ***k out of your tongue, including as far back as you can go. You should be gagging or else it's not far enough back. 4. Rinse your mouth good and drink a big glass of water. 5. Rinse now with Smart Mouth, 4 squirts of the pump of each bottle. 6. Try not to eat or drink for a half hour. 7. floss after all meals. 8. before bed, do not fail to rinse with the Smart Mouth. You will wake up with a fresh feeling mouth, but don't think you can ignore the routine. You have to do everything on the list. One last thing, you have to blow your nose if it is stuffed up, and you have to snort the snot through your nose whenever you feel it blocked up. It make a lot of noise, but do it anyway.

[danger]

but, if you have tonsil stones, you are always going to stink unless you have your tonsils cut out! If you don't floss, you will stink. If you don't scrape your tongue in the morning, you will stink. If you don't drink a lot of water, your mouth will be dry and you will have a sour smelling breath. If you go to bed at night without using the rinse first, you will not have success. Please don't drink coffee either, and avoid garlic in your food and raw onion,

Listen to me. I have more experience than most of you. Start your day like this.1. Rinse and gargle with Listerine pre brush
2. scrape your tongue all the way from the back until the scraper isn't white. 3. Brush your teeth, do it for a few minutes, finish with brushing the ***k out of your tongue, including as far back as you can go. You should be gagging or else it's not far enough back. 4. Rinse your mouth good and drink a big glass of water. 5. Rinse now with Smart Mouth, 4 squirts of the pump of each bottle. 6. Try not to eat or drink for a half hour. 7. floss after all meals. 8. before bed, do not fail to rinse with the Smart Mouth. You will wake up with a fresh feeling mouth, but don't think you can ignore the routine. You have to do everything on the list. One last thing, you have to blow your nose if it is stuffed up, and you have to snort the snot through your nose whenever you feel it blocked up. It make a lot of noise, but do it anyway.

loads of people dont floss and dont stink. loads of people dont scrape their tongue and dont stink. i cant believe you are even mentioning listerine.

smartmouth? look through some posts and you will see smartmouth cured nobody if i remember

i find it a coincidence how one of katz' buddies turn up around the same time as you? hmmm

[halitosisux]

I think tonsils stink and get stones in them as a consequence of having BB, expecially if any tonsil crypts make a person more susceptible to trapping debris in there.

Flossing itself doesnt do anything for BB. Flossing is just part of good dental practice at preventing problems that can lead to a person having BB. All this obsessive drinking gallons of water not eating onions, coffee etc is pure nonsense - scraping the ***k out of your tongue is just a vicious circle that the katz's of this world want you to get into so you become obsessed about your tongues trying to make you think you have to do all this shit otherwise you'll smell a million times worse. All anyone ever needs to do is very gently remove this tongue slough, which allows your saliva to get to as much of your tongue surface as possible. Use something like aquafresh toothpaste containing zinc and let it sit on your tongue for a minute. Dont use any type of antibacterial substances on your tongue, because NONE of it works for more than a few days and only makes it worse eventually.

Possibly try probiotics, see whether Bliss K12 might work.

[multiple causes]

you can debate which came first, the tonsil stones or the BB all you want, but it's a non issue if you remove your tonsils now isn't it.
And flossing DOES have something to do with bb. Ever smell the floss after using it? If you rinse with the listerine like I said, the floss won't smell anymore. Yes drinking water keeps your mouth moist. You don't realize that most people with BB don't drink water hardly. I never drank water before. I am only advocating drinking 8 glasses a day. I used to drink maybe 2 all day. And coffee makes people with bb smell worse. I am not stupid, I am aware people with normal breath don't need to do any of this, with exception of brushing their tongue while brushing their teeth. But we have to do this stuff because our body produces more of the crap that other unaffected people's don't. I used Katz's products before and none of it worked for me.

[multiple causes]

Danger: please, I am not associated with Dr Katz, I think his products suck. And for the last time I am not the other poster called tongue scraper. But I DO believe in scrapers. I have two different ones. The one I use is from a few years back when I purchased online some rinse that you have to mix from two bottles. I don't remember what it was called but i remember it worked but I couldnt afford to buy it., The smart mouth stuff also is mixed from two bottles. Anyway I still have that original scraper, it's more like 10 years old. I have a scraper from walmart and it sucks, I don';t use it because it's too wide and smooth. It doesn't work at all. Dude, lets not give each other a hard time. I want to get along with you, with everybody really. You have nothing to lose if you do what I outlined,. I swear to god, my life is normal, well the past few weeks have been.

[halitosisux]

Yes, its a non issue when just about everyone i've ever heard of with BB and tonsil stones still have BB after they remove their tonsils.

I know that having smelly tonsils might release occasional whiffs when the stones or tonsils get disturbed, but anyone who thinks that tonsils that produce stones are the sole cause of their BB just because they get that occasional skanky taste in the back of their nose/throat is mistaken.

And I know loads of people who floss every day and I hear them say how it makes the floss stink etc, but these very same people never have any BB.

Coffee mixed with shitbreath is going to smell vile, like anything else you mix with shitbreath. Drinking water just helps to flush your mouth and give the impression of having a better taste. Nobody needs to drink that amount of water just to keep hydrated, unless there's some other underlying health problems like diabetes or kidney problems.

[danger]

multiple, after i found out i had BB i done most of the things you have suggested

i started scraping my tongue twice a day(i have probably bought about 5 different scrapers, including the tung brush and the orabrush. neither made any difference to my tongue or my taste apart from maybe the first 10 minutes)

i upped my water intake to about 6 pints a day. it really made no difference

i started flossing every day, but i knew it was not this because i got basically nothing out while doing it. my floss sometimes smelt but apparently that is normal

i started using listerine. i am sure that shit made things worse

the only thing that has made kind of difference to the taste in my mouth is getting my wisdom teeth out. i no longer have a particular garbage taste coming from that area of my mouth anymore. i still have what feels bad taste in my mouth but i dont know if i am being extra paranoid or not

[hope4now]

SM is dangerous stuff. I think anything with chlorine dioxide is toxic, long term, but SM seems even worse. I believe it's bad for the liver. Someone else on this forum reported suffering liver failure on it (see this thread). The symptoms that it might be damaging the liver are itchy skin.

I had been using a binary chlorine dioxide rinse (DioxiRinse) for a few months just once a day, when I started to get eczema (dry hardened skin) on my fingers. After I finally quit it, most of the skin has cleared up but not 100%.

I have been using a hydrogen peroxide rinse once a day, even though it doesn't really help much. I think it's toxic too, but not as bad as chlorine dioxide. Maybe I'll switch to baking soda as a deodorizer and listerine as a germ killer.

I also have tonsil stones, but since I started using a neti pot before bed, they seem to have mostly gone away. I use a dental syringe to flush out the tonsils in the morning, and haven't seen any come out lately. I still get chronic bb though so tonsil stones are probably a symptom, rather than a cause.

[multiple causes]

SM does not have chlorine dioxide in it, not sure if that is what you're claiming. Regardless, I clicked on that link you included in your post. More people in that thread said they recommend SM, not the other way around. I don't get itchy from it either. Besides, I wouldn't care if I did.

[ruch]

smartmouth has zinc in it. i found it worked okay for me before and then stopped working lately, not sure why this is.

started using dioxirinse which does seem to work okay but the smell and taste = awful! it smells like a swimming pool so i wonder about its safety...

[mike987]

I think any effect that Smartmouth has is purely for the person using it. Your mouth certainly feels fresher, but I still had reactions using, just as many or more than before because it seems to dry the tongue..

One person's theory about why Smartmouth seemed to work was that Zinc kills your senses, supposedly a fact, and that's why it feels like it's making your mouth fresher, when in reality, it's not doing a damn thing.

[deebo]

but, if you have tonsil stones, you are always going to stink unless you have your tonsils cut out! If you don't floss, you will stink. If you don't scrape your tongue in the morning, you will stink. If you don't drink a lot of water, your mouth will be dry and you will have a sour smelling breath. If you go to bed at night without using the rinse first, you will not have success. Please don't drink coffee either, and avoid garlic in your food and raw onion,

Listen to me. I have more experience than most of you. Start your day like this.1. Rinse and gargle with Listerine pre brush
2. scrape your tongue all the way from the back until the scraper isn't white. 3. Brush your teeth, do it for a few minutes, finish with brushing the ***k out of your tongue, including as far back as you can go. You should be gagging or else it's not far enough back. 4. Rinse your mouth good and drink a big glass of water. 5. Rinse now with Smart Mouth, 4 squirts of the pump of each bottle. 6. Try not to eat or drink for a half hour. 7. floss after all meals. 8. before bed, do not fail to rinse with the Smart Mouth. You will wake up with a fresh feeling mouth, but don't think you can ignore the routine. You have to do everything on the list. One last thing, you have to blow your nose if it is stuffed up, and you have to snort the snot through your nose whenever you feel it blocked up. It make a lot of noise, but do it anyway.

Where to start? I think your approach sticks. Its irritating when folks think they have the 'end all be all' answer for Everyone.
Garlic Does Not cause Bad breath . Garlic causes Garlic breath .
Same for raw onions.
Tonsil stones are Not cause by having tonsils .
One should be Careful Not to brush or scrape the tongue too hard. This can make matters Worse .
I could go on and on about how your post is void of merit but it would only add to the waste of space.
I and MANY others have ALREADY tried smartmouth ™ , if it worked for you ,Great, go forth and prosper .
It Did Not do Shit for me and many others here. thanks so much