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How about trying fresh breath saliva transplant?
How about trying fresh breath saliva transplant?
Re: How about trying fresh breath saliva transplant?
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Now what causes it to stink like hell is anaerobic bacteria in your gums, lungs, stomach, tonsils., or nostrils (pnd).
Anaerobic bacteria grows in your body sucking up all your nutrients from your body, its a living bacteria, it needs nutrients to grow, and you know what happens when it eats, it needs to SHIT. So when it takes a shit, your saliva carries this shit onto your tongue, causing a stink and white tongue.
Saliva is good. It cleans out bacteria.
That is why people who suffer from wisdoms/ tonsils bb can cure it easily because 1. they know where the infection is, 2, removing wisdoms/tonsils kills the hiding spot of bacteria, so now it has nowhere to hide. Problem solved.
There are people who have h pylori, taking antibiotics will help eliminate the infection. Once the infection is gone, no more smell.
The thing is to get to the bottom of the problem. there is no point trying to cure your stomach while the infection is in your gums, and vice versa.
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The mouth has similar numbers (and types) of bacterial species as the gut. It's lined with mucous membrane. There's a constant supply of nutrients in the form of mucus, saliva and food when we eat and the remnants left behind.
Probiotics don't create lasting change in the mouth, and they don't in the gut either - hence the reason why fecal transplants are the only way, so far, to deal with certain overgrowths in the gut.
Taking someone else's saliva into the mouth could have the same effect as a fecal transplant has on the gut. Lots of different bacteria being re-introduced, as opposed to just a few types that are typically found in probiotic supplements.
We've seen examples where bad breath may have been "caught" by kissing and where decades-long BB vanished after kissing.
So little is really known, so I think anything is possible.
Anyone living close to this doctor who did this "fecal transplantation"? Maybe he is our go-to guy. After all the conditions are more or less the same. He would understand our situation and probably help us.
One of my friend has this amazing fresh breath without brushing even if he has drunk beer the night before....but I don't know how to ask.
ruch wrote:this wouldn't work.. if it did, kissing would work (there is transferring of bacteria there.. and believe me, it's never worked for me!) and using oral probiotics would work. i have tried this too but it never holds. there is something about our oral condition that doesn't allow good bacteria to take hold and outnumber the bad.
What if, like in the example of the fecal transplant, you took some heavy antibiotics first, then started taking in the saliva..
i think this thread just grossly oversimplifies things . There are diy ways to test probiotics to see if they are live cultures or not . Malory just posted about a place doing Bacteriotherapy (fecal transplant) via anal suppository .If you think these Docs might be interested Jiazzsy, why not email them and ask what they think about saliva transplant ? And post the replies here ..jiazzsy wrote:I don't believe in the pro-biotic tablets or other forms that are given....nothing compares with the "original" state. Hence, the idea "saliva transplant".
Anyone living close to this doctor who did this "fecal transplantation"? Maybe he is our go-to guy. After all the conditions are more or less the same.
One of my friend has this amazing fresh breath without brushing even if he has drunk beer the night before....but I don't know how to ask.
malory wrote:FOR UK PEOPLE INTERESTED:
UK clinic now offering this bacteriotherapy via enema. i have asked about its effectiveness in contrast to the bacteriotherapy administered via nasogastric tube.
£4000 is indeed beyond our budget but, if you would like a brochure, it is very detailed and informative. well worth looking at. Also, Glenn (Taymount rep) was very receptive to learning about odour disorders and interested in using this treatment to help us.
Taymount Clinic for Digestive Health
The Taymount Clinic
1st floor
16a High Street
Hitchin
HERTS SG5 1AT
tel. 01462 712500
www.taymount.com
i have been on antibiotics which eliminated by bb at the time.. and i was seeing someone at the time so there was kissing and plenty of swapped saliva. my bb returned, so nope..mike987 wrote:ruch wrote:this wouldn't work.. if it did, kissing would work (there is transferring of bacteria there.. and believe me, it's never worked for me!) and using oral probiotics would work. i have tried this too but it never holds. there is something about our oral condition that doesn't allow good bacteria to take hold and outnumber the bad.
What if, like in the example of the fecal transplant, you took some heavy antibiotics first, then started taking in the saliva..
Not that i'm promoting the saliva transplant idea , But I would think the antibiotics you were on might negate any possible potential benefit of someone else's saliva at the time of low bb(?)ruch wrote:
i have been on antibiotics which eliminated by bb at the time.. and i was seeing someone at the time so there was kissing and plenty of swapped saliva. my bb returned, so nope..
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