WHo has LINGUAL TONSILS REMOVED

Twilight · Post by **Twilight** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:47 pm

I'd like to apply a little good old fashioned logic to this before we get carried away.

Your palatines and adenoids have the ability to become cryptic, whereas the linguals do not. In this sense, removing your linguals is almost like removing your tongue and cheeks. Lasering your linguals might help a little, but rather than focusing on this shouldn't we focus on the source of the bacteria/changing the oral enviroment.

I'll say it now, and I'll say it a million times over...DON'T OVERLOOK YOUR ADENOIDS!

I think I'm going to dedicate a whole post to the adenoids just so people realize how much of a factor in bb they can be. Especially with PND.

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:25 pm

Twilight wrote:DON'T OVERLOOK YOUR ADENOIDS!

It's easy to overlook something that don't exist

Mine apparently disappeared after childhood, which is what happens in most people. I suggest everybody goes to an ENT and checks whether their adenoids are even there.

I do have a PND problem though, especially in the mornings. Gonna do a full allergy test soon. Sick of this PND.

Regarding the Lingual Tonsils: I think there are crypts there too. Anyway, there's gotta be *something* going on back there, as that's where most bb sufferers stink the most(?).

emotional rescue · Post by **emotional rescue** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:40 pm

larc,

this drawn is yours or from a doctor??

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:59 pm

"Google"

JZ · Post by JZ » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:58 pm

This is for sure the area where the BB arises. I think that these organs are the cause of the BB. Because if you put your finger in your throat at the back of your tongue then you can smell the BB on your finger. Isn't this the area that DR. YEHUDA FINKELSTEIN operates with his laser ?

emotional rescue · Post by **emotional rescue** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:45 pm

No, he lasers palatine tonsils,

Still it´s not clear if he can do something about the lingual tonsils or not....

Belle · Post by **Belle** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:14 am

I seen my ENT last week and i am going for a tonsilectamy on the 4th of September. In my previous appointment with him i had asked him to look at this website so he could understand my concerns. Last week when i seen him we discussed lingual tonsils and their removal. My ENT said this is not regular procedure and it is very rare for this area to cause problems. In the last 15 years he has only done this procedure once.

I believe what he says, he has been fantastic and very supportive. To remove these tonsils is like removing a part of your tongue!!

JZ · Post by JZ » Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:56 am

Belle wrote:My ENT said this is not regular procedure and it is very rare for this area to cause problems. In the last 15 years he has only done this procedure once.

To remove these tonsils is like removing a part of your tongue!!

I think that we just need a not regular (new) procedure because all regular procedures failed ! I have seen too many ENT´s with regular procedures or even not any procedure.

To laser the lingual tonsils is not the same as "removing a part of your tongue" but it is only smoothen the surface of the back of your tongue.

baguio · Post by **baguio** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:13 pm

Has anyone stateside tried this guy??:

http://homepage.mac.com/changcy/halitosis.htm

He refers to the lingual tonsils as a potential cause....

emotional rescue · Post by **emotional rescue** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:42 pm

baguio wrote:Has anyone stateside tried this guy??:

http://homepage.mac.com/changcy/halitosis.htm

He refers to the lingual tonsils as a potential cause....

This could be great news!

In the linked articles of that site it sais that the lingual tonsils can be sucsesfully lasered, but i yet not find an article that relates it with halithosis but to ¨hyperplastic and inflamatory diseases¨ (i´m looking to the site right now...)

In fact in one of the articles Dr. Krespy is one of the signers, maybe we could contact it too,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... stractPlus

Someone who speaks english please take some time to surf this site as i think there is very ussefull information for us, but some terms and words are just too much for me... www.pubmed.gov

i hope we get some conclusions of this...

JZ · Post by JZ » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:05 pm

Interesting link:

On the transformation of sulfur-containing amino acids and peptides to volatile sulfur compounds (VSC) in the human mouth.
Wåler SM.
Dental Faculty, University of Oslo, Norway. [email protected]

Halitosis is most often caused by oral conditions. Volatile sulfur compounds (VSC), constituting the major components of oral malodor, are produced by anaerobic, gram-negative bacteria retained mainly in periodontal pockets or on the tongue dorsum. Sulfur-containing amino acids serve as substrate for these bacteria. VSC have also been found to have unfavorable effect on the tissue. The aim of this study was to examine whether normal, healthy individuals with no history of halitosis were able to produce VSC from cysteine, when applied as a mouthrinse. A further aim of the study was to investigate and compare the potential of other sulfur-containing amino acids and peptides as substrates for oral VSC production and to localize the odor-production sites. A portable sulfide monitor was used for VSC registration. Results showed that all test subjects produced high oral concentrations of VSC upon rinses with cysteine, which thus seems to be a major substrate for VSC production. The other sulfur-containing substrates had much less effect. It was found that the tongue was the major site for VSC production, and that saliva per se caused low VSC production.

PMID: 9395120 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... stractPlus

tam24hair · Post by **tam24hair** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:37 pm

hi! i just had my lingular tonsils removed 5 days ago (lasered) i am still in pain and still eating just liquids!! its extremely painful and it feels like razors in my throat! they were enlarged so thats why my ent removed them...they were causing breathing and eating problems!!i am hoping to heal soon!!

Larc400 · Post by **Larc400** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:40 pm

Really!? Wow that's rare. So they lasered the far back of your tongue? I want that procedure done too. Did you have a breath problem? I haven't seen you post here, so that's why I'm asking

tam24hair · Post by **tam24hair** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:21 pm

yup...its all lasered off! no i didnt have a bad breath problem...they came enlarged due to allergies! go for it if you have problems...but recovery is a bitch....good news though...i ate bread and butter and it only took me an hour to do haha

Post by **Jimi Stein** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:23 pm

can you take apicture and posti it here ?