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Post by xoxo »

Jimi wrote:why is nobody doing liver flush
i did. twice.
i get few stones..
can't stomach epsom salt just thinking about it make my hair stand! :)
might try again tho...

how many times before you get results?


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Jimi wrote:Yes maybe we all have TMAU
Or maybe we are all just CRAZY.....LOL KIdding people!

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Ok, Guys I think that we are going the right way. I am absolutely convinced that Choline is the Cause of BB. I have been doing the diet. I stopped eating eggs yolk, soy, Chocolate, . and keeping a low choline diet as possible. My breath has improved. In the morning I am not waking up with that lousy taste and breath I can tell. I am not getting reactions from my co-workers and everybody is talking to me and interacting with me. I have come to know that almost all people has a certainly level of BB. I can notice now that level in my coo-workers, even my boss. I guess we are all concerned about our own breath, and holding breathing that we do not smell other's breath. It's normal to have a small amount of bad breath and I think that I am know at that level. I have take this so slowly, not trying to demonstrate excessive happiness, just finding out what is going on and how my health is improving. I am totally changing my life. Today is my second week with fresh air, and let me tell ya folks it works, it works.

Tireofit... can you tell you are cured?. I guess this is the right way. Liver in not working as it should, it can not process excessive amount of choline. So guys take it slow with choline. You know something I am also doing oil pulling, it is not a placebo it has help too on my healing process, and it gives a nice taste to my breath. I am using know regular toothpaste, and once or twice a week I use therabreath.

Guys you can not imagine how good it feels to have a good breath, it's awesome let me tell. And we are ignoring the answer to the cure. So friends I am inviting you to heal your lives and when you all are done we should gather together for a feast, someplace in the world. It could be here in Colombia South America. I am inviting you all guys.

I am gonna give you the last tip I am using, as an oral rinse I am using star anise. I put some stars in boiling water, let it cool, and that's it I use it as a mouth rinse. I drink some of this water but at a lower concentration to irrigate all my throat.

Any comments do not hesitate to write to [email protected].

TRY THIS AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by emotional rescue »

Hi Tiredofit,

could you post the list that you made with the levels of chloline in foods??

I would like to try a strict diet of chloline to see if it helps me
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Yes please somebody write a 1 week menu or 2 weeks menu please

I think it is TMAU, you do not need a test, if the reactions are gone after the diet than you have secondary TMAU I guess

We need to test this thing out really good. It does not mean we will never be cuired. There might be some causes for TMAU that we could discover if we test stuff
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Ok, folks. Today I also had an excellent day. You know something...I was wondering if there is any connection between liver and tonsils. I have had this idea. I still have some tonsilloliths in my throat, they do not smell that bad, but there exist an odor. I would like everybody to ask about this because I could be possible that liver as the chemical organ expells this bb causing thing through tonsils.

I wish this start working for all of us guys.
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Post by Larc400 »

Hi!

May I state the obvious:

If suspecting you have TMAU, please test for TMAU = go to your doctor who will find out where to send the test.


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Post by Ice »

Ch_Adams!
DID U ASK ANYONE IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS???
TESTIMONIALS WHERE A PERSON CLAIMS HE HAS IMPROVED HIS BREATH (EVERYBODY CAN "IMPROVE" IT TO SOME LEVEL, OFFCOURSE IF U CUT DOWN HALF OF THE FOOD IT WILL REDUCE THE BREATH, ESPECIALLY IF THE OTHER HALF IS RAW FOOD, LIKE VEGETABES AND FRUIT!) OR CURE HIS BAD BREATH---WHICH IN MY OPINION IS JUST IN THEIR HEAD! I BELIVE THEY STILL HAVE BAD BREATH, AND THEY JUST THINK THEY DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE, BECAUSE OF "THE SIGNS" !OTHER PEOPLE GIVE THEM! COME ON! TALK TO SOMEONE WHO CONFIRMED TO U BEFORE THAT U HAD BAD BREATH, AND ASK HIM IF U STILL HAVE IT!

AND NO, NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE LITLE BIT OF BAD BREATH! i HAVE FRIENDS THAT TALK TO EACH OTHER CLOSE AS THEY ARE GOING TO KISS EACH OTHER, SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT CRAP EVERYBODY HAS IT! THE SAD THING IS, WHO EVER U THINK HAS BAD BREATH, BECAUSE U SMELLED IT LITLLE BIT...WELL HOW TO TELL U THIS, BUT U WERE MOST PROBABLY "SMELLED URE OWN BREATH"! WHEN URE BREATH MIXES WITH SOMEONE ELSES, SOMETIMES U CAN EVEN SMELL WHAT THEY SMELL ALL THE TIME, WHEN U ARE TALKING WITH THEM! TRUST ME I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE!
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i agree with ice
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Post by elliott »

Most of the info I can find on colic foods has to do with infants and breastfeeding mothers. I don't see much related to adult health, digestive, sinus, or throat problems.

I tend to agree with Ice too. Cut half your food intake and you are certain to "feel" different (of course), but is it a cure? Colic foods are the cause of BB? Why weren't colic foods bothering me 2 years ago? All of a sudden I am allergic to 50% of available food products? I admit that I have noticed a difference from avoiding certain foods, but that may just be because there simply just isn't any food to digest. I'm not certain that's a good thing.

I've met vegans whose breath/body stinks, because they aren't reciving essential nutrients from a full diet. I'm not about to cut out healthy foods, and lose weight or become mineral deficient. Sure, I believe dairy and protien are issues, but broccoli, wheat, nuts, beans, foods that are good for you? If this is the answer, then I embrace my bad breath and I'll just live and die with it. I'm not going to cause other health problems in the struggle to fight BB.

I think there is a technical problem with our bodies; it's not something that we are doing wrong. Also remember how everyone believed that liquid soap and vitamin C were instant cures, and it turned out to be misleading or even placebo reaction?

I don't know. If there is a link between liver and choline, then I'd prefer to have my liver checked out. Not friggin healthy food. I want to get at the source. If I can't, then ***k it. There are some things that I am not willing to change, even for BB.
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Post by Jimi Stein »

you are right elliot

cutting healthy foods like nuts is ****ing absurd

I have read on other forums that people got health problems under choline diet, maybe it was health problems from before, maybe not

We are fucked big time, we are like lottery millionars, so rare, but not with millions in our pocket - with a ****ing disease that affects every inch of our lives
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Okay people, once again - YOU DO NOT NEED TO CUT OUT ALL FOODS WITH CHOLINE!!!! Your body does not need soy, dairy, beans, nuts, fish and liver everyday. Eat fish on a Friday night so the smell will be gone by Monday before you go back to work. Look, I never said the diet was a cure, it's just a way to make your breath less offensive. Not everyone has TMAU, but if you keep whining and never try the diet, you will never know. On this thread I posted a menu for a day. I also posted the site with the list of foods with choline. You do not need to give up all of these foods, just limit the really high ones at first (100 and above). Take chlorophyll as well. If it doesn't improve your breath then you don't have TMAU - there are many reasons for BB. There is no easy way out of this - you all know that by now.
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C'mon people: if you want to know if you have TMAU, you do the test. If the test shows you have TMAU, you start the low-choline diet. If you do it the other way around you'll not really know anything. Hope this helps.

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i have no idea where this sewery smell has been coming from (somedays i can smell it in my shirts)

but it doesn't appear to be related to choline foods.. Last two days, i had pork, brocolli, etc.. and i don't smell it at all right now (i can almost always smell it a little when i first wake up and blow my nose)


Usually all I eat is healthy kinds of cereal... maybe it's because i haven't been getting proper nutrients? i don't think i ever had this smell attached to me when i was drinking milk daily, and eating meat and fish all the time...

It's really confusing .. but at least today I can't sense the smell.. My only worry should be tonsil stone breath.. right when you think they're clear of stones, you hack one up and get that awful smell again. i thought i was clear of stones, but i gargled violently last night and a few smalll ones came to light. ugh.
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LARC400 - I don't have the money to send my urine to some university that others say aren't always accurate. At the end of this month I have an appt. to see my dr. and I will ask him if they do the test. Until then, I'll stay on the diet and keep taking my Odor Cleanse.
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